They can always install a key card only gate like the Paradise gate

At every entrance to a MMP from every public road????? Imagine the backup of both carts and cars.

"They" are going to install a key card gate at every MMP? You're not serious. And what about walkers, cyclists, etc?

One just walks or rides a bike through when a car or cart opens the gate:a040:

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Thank you, I enjoyed that one.

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It will probably stay there...................I think it's best to discourage the crossing.

Just turn up your cart to go faster and make up for the delay.

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Some will claim I created the document.

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Correct me if I'm wrong (it's happened before) but my understanding was that each CDD owns the MMPs in their district. To me this would mean that being a resident of TV would not be a requirement to use the MMPs. Same as how the townies are free to visit the squares and use the parking facilities surrounding them.

I can't imagine some non-Villager, would get slapped with a trespassing charge for riding their bicycle on a MMP on the way to Brownwood for example.

Considering posting such a document could lead to legal issues if it was fake, I think most reasonable people would assume it to be real.

The MMPs are paid for by Villagers, they are NOT public

[QUOTE=golfing eagles;2264591]The MMPs are paid for by Villagers, they are NOT public[/QUOTE

So if someone parks at Pinellas Plaza (which is public property) and walks down an MMP, they’re trespassing? You’re kidding, right?

Crossing the road
 

LSVs can cross 466 and 466A, but can't drive on them otherwise.

I'm a little confused about that statement. I bought my house and have a bond just as anyone else that bought new. My understanding is the bond is paying for the capital costs of the infrastructure including roads and MMPs.

I find it hard to believe that the roads are public but the paths are not. I've read nothing in my bond information stating that it grants me private access to the MMPs, or any wording to that extent.

“ Golf carts may only operate on streets with posted speed limits of 30 MPH and under. Golf carts may, however, cross streets with posted speed limits of 45 MPH and under just not drive them.”

Five Star Golf Carts

[QUOTE=photo1902;2264592]Don’t know if that is true, but they might be. But you’re getting off topic which has to do with golf carts from non-villagers possibly sneaking in to use our amenities

So…. Does this mean that a regular golf cart can pass by the Neighborhood Walmart to the traffic light at 466a, then cross to go into Colony Plaza????

If anyone here says Yes I will print this out and show to the police if stopped.,.

If you believe what's on the internet. Since a tunnel is provided at Colony I would use that since there is a MMP to Hearld Way.

I'm surprised. The Developer has been very diligent about eliminating opportunities for non-Villages with golf carts to get into The Villages. There are a lot of non-Villages renters and home owners in Trailwinds.

The Developer has been???? Interesting.

This is new information to me that might allow golf carts to cross state roads under certain situations such as 466A

one of several links from a previous post
Statutes & Constitution
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Online Sunshine

Sorry that it's hard for you to believe

[QUOTE=golfing eagles;2264603]* I’m not off topic at all. You claim the MMP’s are private, not public. If that’s the case, anyone entering/using them by any means of conveyance is trespassing. This is completely different than accessing or using a rec center, pool, etc. The bottom line is the MMP’s are fair game, as there will be no enforcement taken on people using them.

The only crime that will be enforced less than doing 23 MPH on the MMP

Will be a ticket for a non villager using the MMP

What’s your probable cause to stop the non villager? Will Wildwood PD stalk the crossing at 466A, and radio ahead that the yellow Yamaha with the Green Bay Packer’s front license plate is not a Villager?

As opposed to 35 MPH and not dead? 35 Mph usually equals 40 to 50 MPH.

[QUOTE=photo1902;2264592]Pinellas Plaza is actually private property which the public is invited to use while visiting the businesses there. The nearest MMP is on Buena Vista. According to half of the social media posters, walking on a MMP is endangering your life.

Just stating the fact that the MMP's are not public. I was replying to this sarcastic post which you did not quote.

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhh. Have some whine with your cheese, or cheese with your whine (whichever). :D :D Sorry I had other things to do at the time like leaving to pick up 100sq ft of sod then installing it, and didn't have time to search the state laws again. That being said Post #101 cites the relevant state laws but please read it carefully and IN FULL so as not to take anything out of context.

The cops alleged comment (maybe the poster quoted him wrong) was a BLANKET "anyone can cross in a cart" and that is MILES from the correct answer. There are certain specific cases (exceptions) where it can be done and likely (if one reads it fully and carefully) most do not apply here.

IIRC (not 100% sure) a while back it was posted here (so it MUST be true) that a cart was issued a ticket crossing 466A at Morse. According to the cops alleged comment that led to this it would be an incorrect ticket.

[QUOTE=photo1902;2264623]What does a lack of enforcement have to do with the fact that the MMPs are private property???? If they were "public", then law enforcement could issue speeding tickets, which they can't. If they were "public", there would be a posted speed limit. If they were "public", local authorities and the state of Florida would be making the rules. Please share the section of Florida Statutes that states you can't drive your SUV on an MMP. If they were "public", all the taxpayers of the county would be paying to maintain them, not just Villagers. I suppose the bicycle paths and walking trails south of 44 are "public" as well? Get a grip.

Not legal at Stonecrest.
 

Spruce Creek South at entrance. Approved by Marion County Commissioners years ago.

Lol you are just stirring the pot! Are you bored? Golf carts can’t go out there.

Read & Learn: Village Community Development Districts

[QUOTE=golfing eagles;2264698]Pretty sure you misunderstood my post regarding enforcement. All I was saying is that there is no way the MMP’s won’t be available for public access. Period. The issue, as I see it, is people are worried about the floodgates opening if non-villagers have the ability to access the MMP’s by golf cart. Not something I’d lose a second of sleep over if that happens. This is a completely separate topic from non-villagers using pools, rec center activities, etc., which of course no villager wants.

There is already a “no carts beyond this point” sign (OK, not 100% sure of the exact words) on Pinellas just before you get to the light about even with the entry to the Villages Health entry. It is illegal to cross that intersection in a golf cart that is not “Street Legal”.

I doubt that it will ever be made an exception, the developer will fight tooth and nail to stop it if it is ever considered by Wildwood, and rightfully so, they want to protect their merchants competitive advantage that they pay a premium for “golf cart accessible” access for.

[QUOTE=photo1902;2264703]I agree with you there, it is probably unenforceable----gates are totally impractical, and "patrolling" them even less so. But we need to get more serious about checking IDs. There are people sneaking onto the exec golf courses after the ambassador leaves, both Villagers avoiding the trail fee and non-Villagers. There are complaints about teens climbing over into Tamarind Grove and using the pools. I don't care if someone wants to cross 466A (which Don has clearly posted is illegal) and drive around on public roads or go walk on an MMP----but amenities are a different story. One cannot expect a trespasser to take proper care of a pool or golf course, nor obey the rules.

PS: If a non-Villager walker on a MMP trips and injures themselves, who is liable????? Same for a pool and golf course. Are we sharing in some degree of liability for failing to check IDs or monitor the golf course after hours?????

Great that we can now go to Aldis across the street and save some money, it's a long cart ride to Walmart on 466 from Buttonwood. When will Winn Dixie turn into an Aldis?

I see Golf Carts coming from Continental Country Club crossing Morse all the time coming into the Village of Bradford.

Ok. I need to get some clarification here. We can drive our NOT street legal golf carts on public roads outside the villages as long as the speed limit is 30 mph?? Was not aware of that if true. Of course if true would probably need to traverse a road with a higher speed limit to get to one under 30 mph

Oh good maybe Community Watch should patrol MMP’s and check ID’s

Continental across 44??