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Bill14564 06-10-2025 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2437900)
A parking lot is a shared resource, so it's OK to park sideways and take up three spots?
The bleachers at Brownwood are a shared resource, so it's OK to lie down on them?
On Florida highways posted over 60, it's actually a law that a vehicle in the left lane MUST move over for faster traffic---EVEN IF that traffic is "speeding"---simply because no driver is there to enforce the law or to force their speed on others. Too bad that isn't the law on every road.

You see, sharing is a two-way street (no pun intended :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:)

Traveling 19.4mph and holding up someone that wants to go 20.1mph is not quite the same as driving on the wrong side of the MMP or stopping across the MMP to send a text message. And as I mentioned in another reply, there aren't a lot of multi-lane MMPs where slower traffic can move out of the leftmost lane.

SaucyJim 06-10-2025 06:16 AM

As another post suggested, my “rules” are as follows:

(1) When being passed, I let off the gas completely to make it faster and safer for all parties. All too often, when I am passing someone, they speed up. That’s nothing short of a mental disorder.

(2) When on a street being followed by a car, I pull to the right the first chance I get and wave them around. I continue to be fascinated at the lack of thank-you waves I get for doing this.

The rest of the time, I’m driving about 75 mph. I mean, if we’re going to exaggerate on these posts, let’s get serious. lol!!

CybrSage 06-10-2025 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Laurawilcox (Post 2437880)
This is the part that upsets me about people driving without governors,

Most likely the governors are still there, just adjusted. Easier to adjust than remove.

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A friend of mine had her cart tipped over when a passer cut too close to her rear end and will be in rehab for months how can we say that that’s an OK thing
A golf cart does not flip over from someone passing closely. The cart had to be hit or she had to swerve suddenly or such. She may have overreacted due to fear, but the cart that did not hit her did not flip her.

CybrSage 06-10-2025 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SaucyJim (Post 2437905)
As another post suggested, my “rules” are as follows:

(1) When being passed, I let off the gas completely to make it faster and safer for all parties. All too often, when I am passing someone, they speed up. That’s nothing short of a mental disorder.

(2) When on a street being followed by a car, I pull to the right the first chance I get and wave them around. I continue to be fascinated at the lack of thank-you waves I get for doing this.

The rest of the time, I’m driving about 75 mph. I mean, if we’re going to exaggerate on these posts, let’s get serious. lol!!

People try to drag race me when I pass as well ..yeah, a true mental disorder, this need to control the speed of others.

They probably don't wave due to keeping both hands in the wheel when passing. At least Indo that when passing a cart, bike, etc.

Only 75? Slow pokes like you cause accidents!!?

golfing eagles 06-10-2025 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SaucyJim (Post 2437905)
As another post suggested, my “rules” are as follows:

(1) When being passed, I let off the gas completely to make it faster and safer for all parties. All too often, when I am passing someone, they speed up. That’s nothing short of a mental disorder.

(2) When on a street being followed by a car, I pull to the right the first chance I get and wave them around. I continue to be fascinated at the lack of thank-you waves I get for doing this.

The rest of the time, I’m driving about 75 mph. I mean, if we’re going to exaggerate on these posts, let’s get serious. lol!!

Besides being just plain stupid and dangerous, it's illegal

Florida statute 316.083:

5) Except when overtaking and passing on the right is permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle must give way to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle, on audible signal or upon the visible blinking of the headlamps of the overtaking vehicle if such overtaking is being attempted at nighttime, and must not increase the speed of his or her vehicle until completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.

Yet, on both diamond lanes and on highways, this happens all the time---like I said in a previous post---some people just don't like to get passed, no matter how slow they are.

CybrSage 06-10-2025 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2437887)
To me, 19mph is not too slow in a cart since the cart is only supposed to be capable of 20mph max. Sure, I would be frustrated that I couldn't just hold my foot to the floor but that's the way it is on a shared path.

The faster people will simply pass you then. Claiming everyone live as you demand is silly.
Just wave and smile as they pass you. If you want to be safer for your own sake, slow a little to help them pass easier. If not, them don't.
To each their own, simplychoose to be happy. :)

jimkerr 06-10-2025 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom2172 (Post 2437770)
How soon will there be a very serious accident by idiots with golf carts that go 35 mph passing everyone one ! Had this happen 5 times in 3 day. Was going 19 mph and got passed

I have people pass me all the time. I could care less. It doesn’t affect my day at all.

golfing eagles 06-10-2025 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2437910)
The faster people will simply pass you then. Claiming everyone live as you demand is silly.
Just wave and smile as they pass you. If you want to be safer for your own sake, slow a little to help them pass easier. If not, them don't.
To each their own, simplychoose to be happy. :)

Exactly. The faster carts/cars/motorcycles will simply pass you and be gone--no problem at all. But the snails, especially those in the left lane, are a problem that has to be dealt with by everyone and unfortunately encourages less than safe maneuvers by many to get past them---both insurance company and law enforcement studies show that slow drivers cause more accidents than so-called speeders---they might not be involved in them, but they cause them.

Andyb 06-10-2025 06:32 AM

Golf cart
 
Works both ways, maybe you should pull over to make it easier to pass or up your speed to the average speed of most others at around 23 mph?

Bill14564 06-10-2025 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Andyb (Post 2437914)
Works both ways, maybe you should pull over to make it easier to pass or up your speed to the average speed of most others at around 23 mph?

Maybe you can tell me where to buy a radar gun for my cart.

My cart won't go 23mph, at least not according to the gps in the spedometer and on my phone. I don't regularly get passed by other carts and there are times when other carts are driving one or two mph slower than I am. Are both of my gps systems wrong or is there somewhere outside the Brownwood/Everglades/Middleton/Sawgrass/Sumter loop where the average speed is much higher?

golfing eagles 06-10-2025 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2437917)
Maybe you can tell me where to buy a radar gun for my cart.

My cart won't go 23mph, at least not according to the gps in the spedometer and on my phone. I don't regularly get passed by other carts and there are times when other carts are driving one or two mph slower than I am. Are both of my gps systems wrong or is there somewhere outside the Brownwood/Everglades/Middleton/Sawgrass/Sumter loop where the average speed is much higher?

I have to agree that I doubt 23 is the average, probably closer to 21. But I think that person's point was that slower carts should allow faster carts to pass. There's an old saying---"Lead, follow, or get out of the way"---that should also apply to cars and carts.

crash 06-10-2025 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom2172 (Post 2437770)
How soon will there be a very serious accident by idiots with golf carts that go 35 mph passing everyone one ! Had this happen 5 times in 3 day. Was going 19 mph and got passed

And that bothers you why?

You were going 19 and got passed and that means they were doing 35.

kimgarwel12@gmail.com 06-10-2025 06:58 AM

We were on MBT coming from the Eastport area the other day heading toward Magnolia when a 4-passenger cart with 4 teens in it, heading south, was racing a teen on an e-bike. There is landscaping and wall on our side, so nowhere to go for us. The kid on the e-bike finally slowed and pulled in behind the 4-pass cart just as they got to us, and then immediately pulled back into the oncoming traffic lane to continue their race. There are several sharp and blind turns along that stretch of MBT, so definitely an accident waiting to happen. TV used to be a retirement community.......

msilagy 06-10-2025 07:02 AM

from my observation over the past 15 years golf cart accidents with fatalities happen most often when a golf cart driver pulls in front of a car with the car being unable to stop. When I lived off of Morse this kind of golf cart driving happened a lot. They merge like a car and expect the driver to give them the right of way. Speed is one reason but stupidity tops that.

Bill14564 06-10-2025 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2437924)
I have to agree that I doubt 23 is the average, probably closer to 21. But I think that person's point was that slower carts should allow faster carts to pass. There's an old saying---"Lead, follow, or get out of the way"---that should also apply to cars and carts.

Fair enough.

I don't feel the need to pull onto the grass if I am maintaining 20mph but if for some reason I was slower then I hope it would occur to me to be polite.

TJ SoBos 06-10-2025 07:09 AM

Just an FYI...
According to Florida Statute 320.01(42), any golf cart that can exceed 20 miles per hour is classified as a “low-speed vehicle”
or LSV.

While they may look exactly like golf carts, due to the fact they can exceed 20 miles per hour (but less than 25 miles per hour), the vehicle is subjected to a different set of regulations.

Essentially, an LSV is in between a golf cart and a regular automobile.

LSVs must be equipped with seat belts, brakes, headlights, taillights, and turn signals, and must be registered with the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.

MrFlorida 06-10-2025 07:13 AM

My cart's top speed is 21, I tried to make it go faster but it won't... the governor is all the way off... I'll wave as you go past.

ByebyeMichigan 06-10-2025 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2437780)
Pretty sure a cart doesn't need to go 35mph in order to pass you when you are going 19mph.

Where did you get your cart-mounted radar gun that tells how fast other carts are going?

Exactly

golfing eagles 06-10-2025 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TJ SoBos (Post 2437935)
Just an FYI...
According to Florida Statute 320.01(42), any golf cart that can exceed 20 miles per hour is classified as a “low-speed vehicle”
or LSV.

While they may look exactly like golf carts, due to the fact they can exceed 20 miles per hour (but less than 25 miles per hour), the vehicle is subjected to a different set of regulations.

Essentially, an LSV is in between a golf cart and a regular automobile.

LSVs must be equipped with seat belts, brakes, headlights, taillights, and turn signals, and must be registered with the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles.

Yes, and my cart that only goes 20 or so has ALL THOSE THINGS, except a one-piece windshield. It is insured. The only difference is that it is not registered, i.e. not paying an additional fund-raising tax. That's all I have to do to make my "unsafe" at 20.1 cart into a "safe" 25 mph cart. So I wish all those who clamor that a cart is unsafe over 15 or 20 would realize the difference between a cart and a LSV is simply paying off the county/state.

golfing eagles 06-10-2025 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2437933)
Fair enough.

I don't feel the need to pull onto the grass if I am maintaining 20mph but if for some reason I was slower then I hope it would occur to me to be polite.

I wouldn't pull off onto the grass either. But I do wait for a clear straightaway then slow down so the other cart can safely pass

SHIBUMI 06-10-2025 07:28 AM

Sounds like a job for COPS
 
Civilians on Patrol for speeders on multimodal paths.:police:


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Originally Posted by Tom2172 (Post 2437770)
How soon will there be a very serious accident by idiots with golf carts that go 35 mph passing everyone one ! Had this happen 5 times in 3 day. Was going 19 mph and got passed


Joe C. 06-10-2025 07:34 AM

I once saw a golf cart with a 1.5 liter 6 cylinder engine in it. Man, could it scoot !! And it had a quiet exhaust system. I think it would be a lot of fun.

BlueStarAirlines 06-10-2025 07:43 AM

Looking at my calendar I noticed its almost time for another dog poop thread.......

MrLonzo 06-10-2025 07:46 AM

I understand many seniors feel they're getting to the end of their lives and need to rush to get where they're going in order to get that one more activity in before kicking the bucket. So, I don't mind getting passed in my cart. But I do mind being tailgated! Some of these speedsters just hang out on your tail but refuse to pass!

Vickim 06-10-2025 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom2172 (Post 2437770)
How soon will there be a very serious accident by idiots with golf carts that go 35 mph passing everyone one ! Had this happen 5 times in 3 day. Was going 19 mph and got passed

Been quite a few deaths in golf carts since we moved here 5 years ago .Carts going to fast and drunk drivers ! As long as they don’t take an innocent with them seems to sort itself out.

coffeebean 06-10-2025 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by rsmurano (Post 2437878)
The more important question here s: why didn’t you pull off the road to let someone pass you? 19mph is not fast, it’s actually pretty slow. Almost every turn on the golf cart paths can be driven faster than 20mph. IMO, it’s the slower golf carts that pose the problem. Why is it safer to travel 200mph on the autobahn than it is to drive 70 mph here in the states? 1 of the main reasons is that slower traffic has to move over to the right lanes or get a ticket or have their license revoked. Same laws should apply here which they are but only on 3 lane hwys like i75 and i95. This should be applied to any 2 lane road here in the villages too.

If I had to pull off to the side of the road to allow people to pass me going 19 MPH on a straight a way, I would never get to my destination. That is a bit of hyperbole but you get the idea.

I’m traveling the speed limit and within the guidelines of golf cart rules so why should I be penalized and allow speeders to think they own the road?

Switter 06-10-2025 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2437913)
Exactly. The faster carts/cars/motorcycles will simply pass you and be gone--no problem at all. But the snails, especially those in the left lane, are a problem that has to be dealt with by everyone and unfortunately encourages less than safe maneuvers by many to get past them---both insurance company and law enforcement studies show that slow drivers cause more accidents than so-called speeders---they might not be involved in them, but they cause them.

And speeders cause almost 1/3 of all fatalities on the highways:

speeding-fatalities-14-year-high

coffeebean 06-10-2025 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2437882)
I love it when someone goes out of their way to prove my point. Yes, carts going 19.9 are perfectly safe and those going 20.1 are criminally negligent:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

GE….. there has to be a cut off point and I’m sure you know that. Good to “see” you again. 😊

coffeebean 06-10-2025 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2437887)
There are not a lot of two-lane golf cart paths, MMPs, or diamond lanes here in the Villages. Or did you mean that there are single-lane sections of the autobahn where cars are required to pull of the shoulder and stop to allow those driving 200mph to pass?

To me, 19mph is not too slow in a cart since the cart is only supposed to be capable of 20mph max. Sure, I would be frustrated that I couldn't just hold my foot to the floor but that's the way it is on a shared path.

That’s what I love about the governor on my cart. I can keep pedal to the metal on straight a ways and be assured I’m not speeding.

golfing eagles 06-10-2025 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2437960)
If I had to pull off to the side of the road to allow people to pass me going 19 MPH on a straight a way, I would never get to my destination. That is a bit of hyperbole but you get the idea.

I’m traveling the speed limit and within the guidelines of golf cart rules so why should I be penalized and allow speeders to think they own the road?

Because YOU don’t get to dictate speed to others, not your job. That’s up to LEOs

coffeebean 06-10-2025 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2437892)
Then there are the people who fall out of a cart doing 14 mph, hit their head, and unfortunately die. I’m thinking we all need to wear leather suits and full face helmets!

Seat belt will suffice.

coffeebean 06-10-2025 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by CybrSage (Post 2437893)
You are going slow and complain those not going slow pass you due to you going slower than them.

Slow drivers are passed by those not going slow all the time. This is called normal and expected.

Make sure not to try to block them, that is how accidents are caused.

By making sure not to block them, do you mean I’m supposed to slow down to let them pass? Sorry, not going to happen. The speeders either need to slow down or assure they have enough room to pass me doing the speed limit.

Bill14564 06-10-2025 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2437964)
Because YOU don’t get to dictate speed to others, not your job. That’s up to LEOs

What is the law that says I must pull off the side of a single-lane roadway in order to let someone pass me?

I've seen minimum speed limit signs but not on single-lane roadways.
I've seen laws in WA that say you must pull off and let cars pass if you are traveling under the speed limit and holding up five or more cars but I haven't seen that law in FL.

I absolutely agree about not "sheriffing" the left lane on a highway but that is not the situation here.

coffeebean 06-10-2025 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jimkerr (Post 2437911)
I have people pass me all the time. I could care less. It doesn’t affect my day at all.

Same here. I feel safer in my cart knowing I cannot speed. Wearing a seat belt also gives me a feeling of being safer. Knowing my cart will top out at 21.2 MPH on a down hill, I leave in plenty of time to get to where I’m going. It’s not like we encounter traffic jams driving golf carts. Right?

Tyrone Shoelaces 06-10-2025 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2437874)
I’ve passed cars in my 20 mph cart. They were the slugs tooling along at 15, of which I’ve seen “countless” numbers, unlike 35 mph carts, of which I’ve seen none. Interestingly, those slugs generally have no idea how slow they are, they think everyone else is speeding

You've made it clear that you don't believe it but mine will do high 40's
I've only done it two or three times as it's a third cart that I bust out on occasion.
I try to appease the child in me while remaining as responsible as I can and respect others safety.

coffeebean 06-10-2025 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2437913)
Exactly. The faster carts/cars/motorcycles will simply pass you and be gone--no problem at all. But the snails, especially those in the left lane, are a problem that has to be dealt with by everyone and unfortunately encourages less than safe maneuvers by many to get past them---both insurance company and law enforcement studies show that slow drivers cause more accidents than so-called speeders---they might not be involved in them, but they cause them.

Totally agree. It is unnerving on highways to pass someone in the left lane going backwards. Yikes!

schrdr 06-10-2025 09:01 AM

I agree this claim is a gross exaggeration to make a point.

Taltarzac725 06-10-2025 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Shoelaces (Post 2437978)
You've made it clear that you don't believe it but mine will do high 40's
I've only done it two or three times as it's a third cart that I bust out on occasion.
I try to appease the child in me while remaining as responsible as I can and respect others safety.

I have seen a golf cart going over 40 MPH. It passed me very quickly in Belvedere a few years ago . I was in my golf cart that has a governor and will not let me go over 19.9 MPH. I had thought that people would have trouble getting insurance for their golf cart if they did not have the governor on. Something that came up the last time I got our golf cart serviced at Gordon's Garage . Contact Gordon's Garage for Service - The Villages Golf Cars : The Villages Golf Cars

Nana2Teddy 06-10-2025 09:06 AM

Gotta restock the popcorn after reading this thread, lol.

Taltarzac725 06-10-2025 09:14 AM

There is a vehicle I really miss seeing around this area if the Villages. It was a motorcycle with a sidecar that had a small pooch with goggles on his or her head. The dog looked to be enjoying itself. He was not going very fast though.


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