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coffeebean 09-12-2023 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2255596)
LOL. I don't need to be in tune with the environment. I just want to get from Point A to Point B, quickly and safely. But, I do enjoy a smooth, air conditioned ride.

Growing up on Long Island, I was never the type to be "in tune" with the environment. Having said that, one of the very first times I took our brand new golf cart out for a ride, I came out of a tunnel and, OMG, I had the most up close and personal encounter with two Sand Hill Cranes. They were absolutely gorgeous. To this day, I still remember that encounter. From that moment on, I love riding in our golf cart. It is an electric cart so it is so quiet and smooth, that enhances my enjoyment. No A/C but the wind in my hair is really nice, even it if it hot wind.

coffeebean 09-12-2023 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2255940)
They don't. There is a stop sign for the golf carts and not one for the automobiles...

OK........that is probably why I've always driven my cart knowing that I do not have right of way at the gates.

coffeebean 09-12-2023 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2255942)
Please read the context of those posts. Cars DO HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY AT GATE CROSSINGS. Please don't confuse the newbies.

My posts defining highways and intersections apply ONLY to the situation where there is a STOP SIGN at the gate or when the gate is removed. Then, according to the definitions given by the State of Florida, it becomes no different than any other 4 way stop where the vehicle arriving first has the right of way (or more technically, the other vehicle must YIELD the right of way)

Got it, GE. Sorry; I don't want to confuse the newbies.

DonH57 09-12-2023 06:27 PM

Just minutes ago coming up Modero by cart luckily I pay attention and was aware. I had someone back straight out of their garage out into the street with no idea I had to slam my brakes and thank God had room to avoid slamming into them. Usually I only have this happen in parking lots.

retiredguy123 09-13-2023 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2255940)
They don't. There is a stop sign for the golf carts and not one for the automobiles...

They often place a temporary stop sign at the gate when the gate has been broken. I just saw one yesterday. To me, this can be confusing regarding the right-of-way. I think it would be better to use a "caution" sign instead. Most people don't stop anyway.

golfing eagles 09-13-2023 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 2255988)
Growing up on Long Island, I was never the type to be "in tune" with the environment. Having said that, one of the very first times I took our brand new golf cart out for a ride, I came out of a tunnel and, OMG, I had the most up close and personal encounter with two Sand Hill Cranes. They were absolutely gorgeous. To this day, I still remember that encounter. From that moment on, I love riding in our golf cart. It is an electric cart so it is so quiet and smooth, that enhances my enjoyment. No A/C but the wind in my hair is really nice, even it if it hot wind.

Where on LI???

coffeebean 09-13-2023 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2256083)
Where on LI???

Sent you a PM.

Bilyclub 09-13-2023 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2256078)
They often place a temporary stop sign at the gate when the gate has been broken. I just saw one yesterday. To me, this can be confusing regarding the right-of-way. I think it would be better to use a "caution" sign instead. Most people don't stop anyway.

There are 5 MPH speed limit signs at most gates which also seemed to be ignored.

Laker14 09-14-2023 05:44 AM

I can see why some people don't like using a golf cart. Personally, I like it. In fact, during my summers up north, I miss the golf cart lifestyle a lot. I will be returning to TV soon, and I get excited thinking about tooling around in my cart.

I live in Poinciana, near SeaBreeze and often travel the B.V MMP from Miona to points north of 466, and during the high season I look at the auto traffic on BV, and the cart traffic on the MMP and I think "Genius! What great planning! If all of these carts were cars on Buena Vista, instead of carts on the MMP, there would be twice the car traffic and that would be pretty congested."

Love my cart.

JMintzer 09-14-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2256078)
They often place a temporary stop sign at the gate when the gate has been broken. I just saw one yesterday. To me, this can be confusing regarding the right-of-way. I think it would be better to use a "caution" sign instead. Most people don't stop anyway.

And that should be treated like any other 4-way stop sign...

And just like any other 4-way stop sign, there are people who don't know what to do when they get there...

retiredguy123 09-14-2023 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2256667)
And that should be treated like any other 4-way stop sign...

And just like any other 4-way stop sign, there are people who don't know what to do when they get there...

For the record, I don't stop, I don't treat it as a 4-way stop, and I rarely see anyone else stop.

Bill14564 09-14-2023 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2256667)
And that should be treated like any other 4-way stop sign...

And just like any other 4-way stop sign, there are people who don't know what to do when they get there...

But treating it like a 4-way stop changes the nature of that intersection which more thoroughly confuses some that had no clue in the first place.

At a 4-way stop I look to my right and left to see if there is another vehicle which has stopped at the intersection before I did. If there is, then I wait for the vehicles that arrived first. All vehicles have the same priority so those that stopped first proceed first.

As you know, this is different than the normal operation of the gate. The cars proceed when their gate is raised whether or not a golf cart is already stopped on the MMP. The golf cart never has the same priority as the car; the golf cart always waits for the car to proceed.

Putting a stop sign at the gate and treating it as a 4-way stop changes the normal and expected flow of traffic through the gate. Drivers have a hard enough time figuring out how to handle gates and merges as it is, complicating it by changing the flow will just confuse them more.

And yes, part of the "fun" of driving through and across the gates is predicting just how the confused/careless/entitled/unaware/??? driver is going to act this time.

JMintzer 09-14-2023 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2256673)
For the record, I don't stop, I don't treat it as a 4-way stop, and I rarely see anyone else stop.

Great... If everyone else drove into a wall would you do the same?


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