Yes we all have to be careful out there --- some of those snowbird are not aware of the rules of the road -- as to how has the "right of way"

A lot of people walk that bridge and cross between the Hacienda pool, the hotel and rec center and I've seen cars fly down that street. I definately see the reason for the 10 mpg zone there. Apparently others don't. I was under the impression from an article in the village news the Lady Lake police were going to start enforcing that zone but I've yet to see them.

What about safe driving practices.


It seems to me everyone should keep some distance between them and the vehicle in front of them.

The most basic rule of all IMHO.

Looking forward to Lovebugs,when they are gone we will return to our Paradise and the Northern scourge will be over!

Personally, I think the 10mph limit is overkill and it's pretty hard to drive that slow. Recently, I was thru that area and following a Lady Lake Police car. I followed him at about 25mph, so I think their enforcement of that ridiculous speed limit is unlikely; unless you are going 40 through there.

Actually, if you "try" to drive 10mph through that stretch, golf carts [and bicycles] will pass you...

Good to know that everything will be okay when "The Birds" fly north. When we don't blame the Developer for something we blame the Snowbirds.

Accidents happen and just because people retire and move to TV doesn't necessarily change their personality. Folks with a trigger temper most likely still have the same and as we get older some go back to being children again.

What are you talking about ??????? Paradise??????? Northern scourge??????

How can you be sure it is a 'snowbird'? I am a 'snowbird', as you call 6 month a year people that pay all year, but I am passed almost daily. Most of the carts flying by me seem to the people here all the time. Could it be renters, or visiting children/grandchildren that don't know the rules? Just saying one shouldn't blame any group, as I just did, without knowing.

Love TV! :gc:

"Scourge ... a person or thing that causes great trouble and suffering."

:girlneener: "Northern scourge".

You are trying to be funny, right?

If he is, it's falling flat.:rant-rave:

I am sorry for using the word snowbird -- should have been "village golf cart drivers" I cant see why anyone would be irritated when a golf cart backs out of a parking spot -- in front of an oncoming vehicle ( assumption )-----"A little courtesy goes a long way buddy."

As noted on page C1 of the Daily Sun (yesterday) 13 golf cart deaths in TV in the last four years. Driving a golf cart is serious business---very serious. RIP.

I don't know how many deaths were caused by full-time residents or part-time residents and I doubt anyone has those numbers.

Really, that's not the point. It's obvious that we have to slow down and drive our golf carts more carefully. I see seatbelts in the future ---for every cart. As far as "crazy" men/women, that is above my pay grade.

Always look back and check twice when backing a cart out of the parking spot. The way some clowns fly down the lot it only takes a split second. The cart is harder to see and the other driver is only focussed on a spot in the other isle he may be lucky to get to.

Last night I had my first encounter with road rage in TV, going through Turtle Mound (south) around 9pm. I was 6 carts back in a traffic jam, going about 16mph. The guy behind took exception to me leaving 4-5 lengths between me and the cart in front so passed me going into a curve at which point I blew my horn. When he got to the ramp at the tunnel going under 466a he slammed on his brakes, lucky I gave him 4-5 length courtesy. I stopped and he waved me around which I proceeded to do very slowly. He then got on my butt screaming as I slowly entered the tunnel. When we got back on the main path i speeded up to 22 and he went by me at 27-28, to sandwich in before the curve at BV, as the caravan was still going 16-17.

In the future I will let them pass, not hit the horn and give them lots of room. Rather have a hot head in front of me than behind.

If everyone in the Villages is for the most part retired....what's the hurry?

Unfortunately, it's not just cart drivers. The other day at Morse and 466, there was a line waiting for the left turn signal to go green again. The other light was green and some car pulled out of the line into the go-straight lane and turned left going west on 466. Like others say, "What is the hurry?" If you're late, just be late or leave earlier.:swear:

Is that the real statistic??? Oh my gosh I would never have guessed. Is that all from accidents? That's a huge # of deaths in a community of 100,000. Scary and very sad.

Hot heads rarely change
 

As mentioned before----"hot head personalities " rarely change after retirement. :gc: With around 50,000 golf carts and 100,000 or so people in TV, you are going to have a few "crazy" people.

Word of wisdom, never argue or expect anything rational from and idiot. Not only did the driver put you at risk but also himself and others. His cart is also illegal. Which does not surprise me.

I agree. All you can do is drive defensively just as in a car. I think the reason for all the jacked up illegal carts is these drivers know there is no speed enforcement on the paths and trails. They will only get caught when they forget they may be on a main road at some point on some given day.

It is a hard thing to not let an :swear: know what you are thinking when something like that happens. I am getting better at it, it is work in progress for sure. The issue with telling them what you think is they probably have heard it many times and simply do not believe it ....

I do not mind golf cart speeders. I feel like they know the rules and can make that choice. I mind dangerous drivers, tailgating, passing in crazy places with no regard for others, etc.

I have a dark spot for tailgaters, they make everyone's life a bit worse on what would be an other wise beautiful golf cart ride...

PS. Thank you for not tailgating.

This story is just unbelieveable!
Aren't we supposed to have maturity and life experience
that keeps us from behaving like morons?

What is the darn hurry????
Maybe these people should cut down on some activities
so they are not rushing through life and mowing
the rest of us down who are in their way?

I was just messing you Nitehawk. I think the whole world is going crazy and I am the only one that is ok! Drivers are drivers. I like to enjoy the view.

If you move the food dish the dog may starve.

Passed twice yesterday by the same guy. I let him pass going by Saddlebrook golf course. He was pushing so I moved over. Then he took a so called short cut thru Laurel Manor parking lot and ended up behind me again. I hope he made it where he going.

LOL. Sounds like the same guy behind me one day and he was really upset that I was in front. At the first turn he tryed to short cut thru the parking lot and came out behind me and that really set him off. I hade my radio on so I couldn't hear him but he was so red faced I could tell his language was not pleasant. I was laughing so hard I started to choke.

One of these days there is going to be a very serious mishap on these cart paths between carts. Even at 19 MPH two Golf carts on a collision course is more then enough energy to kill all aboard in both carts. Carts are far more dangerous then any vehicle. Few have any safety equipment installed. I think there is a tendency for people to get complacent about operating a golf cart.

As friendly as everyone can be here in TV, there are a select few who can be rude, impatient and always in some sort of "power struggle." We were driving thru one of the tunnels in our golfcart and a guy in a golfcart honked his horn, for no good reason. It was scary and totally unnecessary. People need to realize that, just like in their car, a bit of courtesy and compromise always works better in the longrun. Life's too short!!!

Lots of people honk their horns in tunnels...it's for good luck.

But, I guess it can be scary... just kidding...what's scary about a horn?

I think many of these "GoGoGranpa" types may be surprised to learn that they can be ticketed on the multimodal paths. They may be private property, but just as parking lots are private, they are also public access. As such, a law enforcement officer can choose to enforce the law to protect the public safety. Driving a golf cart faster than 20 means the driver is piloting an illegal, unregistered vehicle. He CAN be nailed on the multimodals. Not to mention, 99% of the time, that illegal cart on the multimodals must access that public access path via the public streets.

Actually, this should not even be a topic under consideration. Normally, these types of cautions and advice are given by parents to their children. Why do supposedly "mature" adults need to be told to obey the law and be concerned about their own safety as well as that of their neighbors?

Besides the police doing a citation, there is also the insurance issue if you are in a souped up cart and have any type of accident that needs to be reported to your insurance company. You will find that the insurance company will be reluctant to pay if the cart goes over the 20 mph limit. You may find yourself having to pay out of pocket for a lawsuit and lose what you have worked for all your life.

Besides the possibility of getting cited or having an reportable incident and paying out of pocket losing stuff, it certainly hasn't phased quite a few of these souped up carts.

I get really irritated when drivers go the wrong way in the parking lot, be it car or cart.

After an accident, how would the insurance company know that you have a souped-up cart? Do the police take the cart for a test drive to see if it can exceed 20 MPH?

I understand there is some sort of a pin or something in the motor of a golf cart that is removed to make it go beyond the 20 mph. But, whatever it is, the insurance companies know what to look for. It is their business and they do it quite well.

Therein lies the problem. Maturity doesn't necessarily come with adulthood.:girlneener:

I would believe an insurance company would refuse to pay a claim until a cart could be examined immediately following an accident. Just my guess.

If you currently drive an illegal Golf Cart and something happens, just keep the whining to yourself, you have been warned. Do the crime, you will do the time.