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jabacon6669 03-17-2021 07:37 AM

I recently bought a cart. My loner did approx. 19mph. Yes, everyone would pass me, even my friend whom I would follow to a golf course would loose me. They would tell me, that when my new one comes in have them turn up the speed a little, they might have you sign something. When my new one came in it went about the same as the loner. I had to bring it in the following week for some things to be added that had not previously been installed. I asked if the speed could be turned up, they told me yes, but 24.5 was the max. I got the impression that there was something about not hitting 25mph. I typically cruise at about 20-22, but is nice to know that when your lagging in traffic you can pick it up a little. People will travel at what they are comfortable, just like a car, but you better know the consequences. Everybody has gone too fast at some point in their life. Even here in TV, a 20mph cart going down hill will do 24-25mph. I did not have to sign anything. What I'm more concerned with is people not cancelling their directionals, now this is an accident waiting for a place to happen. I got self canceling directionals on my cart. The best safety feature you could spend money on. I would strongly urge everyone to get these. I think they were about $250. Just think, going down a ramp, not knowing your right direction is on, but you are going straight thru. Someone coming out of the tunnel thinks you are turning right and pulls out. Ouch!

Waltdisney4life 03-17-2021 07:43 AM

I have no trouble staying behind somebody doing 20 miles an hour I have an issue with those going 12 to 14 miles an hour and then if I want to pass they speed up and try to block me

John_W 03-17-2021 07:44 AM

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glsatterlee 03-17-2021 07:46 AM

It is my understanding also from the person that we bought our cart from, that you will get points on your license if caught speeding or having open alcoholic containers, plus it’s considered a felony in Florida if you’re speeding with a golf cart.

Linnberg 03-17-2021 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by noslices1 (Post 1916770)
You are correct. 20 MPH is the maximum LEGAL speed allowed for golf carts in The Villages. That being said, there are far more carts that can exceed that speed than you can imagine. I get passed all the time by carts on the street and MMPs. There used to be that Sheriffs would have speed traps for carts and it was expensive get a ticket for speeding. Around $800.00. Some carts have License plates and can go up to 25 MPH, but there are special requirements for them to be registered, including windshield wipers.

Our golf cart is street
Legal, registered and insured and we do NOT have windshield wipers.

Girlcopper 03-17-2021 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 1916684)
I have two related questions:

(1) If you go faster than 10 mph on the Lake Sumter bridge going over to the square what, if anything, might the penalty be? Is there someone who might give you a ticket? Or is it just an issue that might affect an insurance claim if you were in an accident? [We were tail gaited on our way back from dinner tonight by someone who seemed very unhappy that we were driving the speed limit.]

(2) If you are driving in the golf cart lane on, say, Morse Blvd. going north and there is a slowpoke in front of you (SLOW by your standards, which could mean "below 20" or maybe just "going 20 but that isn't fast enough for me") are you allowed to temporarily move into the car lane in order to pass the slower moving cart?

Thx.

kathy

Legal or not. Whats the rush?

toeser 03-17-2021 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kathyspear (Post 1916684)
I have two related questions:

(1) If you go faster than 10 mph on the Lake Sumter bridge going over to the square what, if anything, might the penalty be? Is there someone who might give you a ticket? Or is it just an issue that might affect an insurance claim if you were in an accident? [We were tail gaited on our way back from dinner tonight by someone who seemed very unhappy that we were driving the speed limit.]

(2) If you are driving in the golf cart lane on, say, Morse Blvd. going north and there is a slowpoke in front of you (SLOW by your standards, which could mean "below 20" or maybe just "going 20 but that isn't fast enough for me") are you allowed to temporarily move into the car lane in order to pass the slower moving cart?

Thx.

kathy

Just an observation, not an answer to your question. I ride my bike across the Sumter bridge seven days a week. My average riding speed is 10-12 mph, and I have a very accurate speedometer. I can't remember the last time a cart on the bridge did not pass me. I suspect the average speed of carts passing me is around 15 mph.

Bay Kid 03-17-2021 07:59 AM

I am usually enjoying the ride. If you are in a hurry I just give you a friendly wave on by. So much beauty to see.

Bay Kid 03-17-2021 08:01 AM

If you are in a hurry I just give you a friendly wave on by. I am just enjoying the ride/beauty.

dewilson58 03-17-2021 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1916878)
I am usually enjoying the ride. If you are in a hurry I just give you a friendly wave on by. So much beauty to see.

How many fingers with your wave.
:1rotfl:

mrf6969 03-17-2021 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by richs631 (Post 1916777)
Just a friendly FYI that have governors set over 20 MPH. The RPM on the Yamaha motor are not designed to go much faster than 20 MPH. Anything over 22 MPH the RPM’s are to fast and you risk damaging the motor.

Not sure where you are getting this information. I have a feeling you are making this up. At what rear drive gear ratio are you speaking about? Yea, thought so....

tomhinz 03-17-2021 08:09 AM

It is not only the golf cars that are SPEEDING. Going down Morse Blvd at 35, I was passed up 5 times with cars going 50 (that's right) 50. This is on ALL the streets. The police dept. could be making tons with fines, but no one is around.

OhioBuckeye 03-17-2021 08:40 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 1916623)
I did a search and may be using the wrong keywords, so i apologize in advance if this has been asked before.
We took our brand new 4 seater club car out and floored, it was doing 19 mph according to my speed app on the phone. We were regularly being driven up on and/or being left behind. Are we extraordinarily slow? I thought 20 was the max speed on the multimodals?

Well at least you know you’re within the speed law. I bought 2 new carts in our 8 yrs. in TV & both of them ran 20mph but if I was going down hill sometimes my cart would go 25 to 29 mph. Some people might be speeding them up themselves!

daveac83 03-17-2021 08:44 AM

Electric club cars can only go 20 mph. Electric EZ-Go's with 10-inch tires go about 22.5 mph. Yamaha gas carts are generally raised by the owners to 22.5 mph and above. Yes these are illegal as are many of the new little electric cars, but it does not seem to be enforced.

Raybemis1 03-17-2021 09:06 AM

So a golf cart passing you safely at 22 mph bothers you but a vehicle passing you at 35 mph doesn’t, really? Get a life! Just drive.

ccrider 03-17-2021 09:25 AM

I had my gas cart's annual service at the Village Carts (Gordons) in Dec 2020, and they set the speed at 22 mph. Even put it in the written report. Who's to blame if I get caught? Those guys are supposed to know the law. too.

Dantes 03-17-2021 09:25 AM

How fast do we go in a 55 mph limit on the expressway

Sherry8bal 03-17-2021 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 1916656)
2 for 0mph is the maximum speed for a golf cart according to federal law. If you drive a cart that can go over 20mph on a public road, you can be ticketed for driving an unregistered motor vehicle. Around $250 plus a trip to court, where they will make you take the cart to a mechanic to certify that it can go no faster than 20mph. It doesn't matter if you were driving below 20mph or not. If you get into an accident, your fault or not, you cart may be checked by the police to see if has been tampered with to go above 20mph. And you cart insurance will not cover you if it can.

All that being said, their are loads of unregistered motor vehicles in The Villages. Most are gas carts with their governors altered. There are some "street legal" electric carts around, which are licensed and insured with added equipment. My cart can not go faster than 20mph, but I constantly get passed by idiots that come up to my bumper from nowhere and pass me going 2 or 3 mph faster.

You are absolutely correct AND if you are in an accident and they check that your governor has been adjusted to over 20 mph, you can be sued BIG TIME. I don't know why some people have to go so fast on a golf cart. You are supposed to be retired - what the heck is your hurry?

I've been in my car driving the 25 mph speed limit and then passed by a golf cart doing almost 30 mph. That's ridiculous!!!!!!

birdiebill 03-17-2021 10:06 AM

According to the Florida statute referenced earlier pertaining to golf carts, low speed vehicles, and ATV's; windshield wipers are not required to register your golf cart that you have had converted to a LSV by having it set to exceed 20 mph.

Topspinmo 03-17-2021 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mike234 (Post 1916723)
"what's the hurry?" "what's your hurry". those statements by people irk me. I would like to travel through life at my pace, not dictated by yours. to me. it's like the ignorant people in the left lane, dictating the speed of others, who would like to move along at their own pace, not theirs. I do not have to answer your questions about what's my hurry. I could be having an emergency, or responding to someone who is having one, or I would like to just move along quicker than you, what's my hurry is none of your nosey business......... thank you very much

That’s fine, but don’t let you’re pace put me in danger. As you stated you can’t dictate how other people travel through life. There no law against traveling in left lane, you just can’t impede traffic in left lane.

Topspinmo 03-17-2021 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sherry8bal (Post 1917012)
You are absolutely correct AND if you are in an accident and they check that your governor has been adjusted to over 20 mph, you can be sued BIG TIME. I don't know why some people have to go so fast on a golf cart. You are supposed to be retired - what the heck is your hurry?

I've been in my car driving the 25 mph speed limit and then passed by a golf cart doing almost 30 mph. That's ridiculous!!!!!!


You thing that’s ridiculous I was traveling up B/V going 37 in right lane and got passed by jacked up par car golf cart cart which makes even more dangerous for roll over.

rtrav711 03-17-2021 10:40 AM

Didn't read each comment thoroughly ...but the most important thing to know if your golf cart exceeds 20 mph; is your insurance coverage. I adjusted insurance claims for over 20 years, and ran across situations where a motor type vehicle DID NOT HAVE insurance coverage. In the case where a golf cart exceeds the 20 mph limit...and should have been licensed as a motor vehicle...in 99% of the recreational policies....there would be NO INSURANCE COVERAGE for a claim on public property such as the cart path on public roads. YOU DO NOT have to be going 20mph +...it would be that the cart can exceed the 20 mph and should have been registered. This means...if you cause damage...injure someone...etc.. YOU HAVE NO LIABILITY COVERAGE and would have to pay the claims out of your savings..real property..etc... If an injury for example has a value in excess of $100,000, or $200,000 ,etc.... you better have savings to cover that, etc.. Personal financial exposure should be considered if you have a cart that exceeds 20 mph.

beeneyra 03-17-2021 11:08 AM

It would be nice to have a golf car drag racing event a couple times a year. Long drive to the salt flats.

Rosebud1949 03-17-2021 11:29 AM

20mph is enough
 
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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 1916623)
I did a search and may be using the wrong keywords, so i apologize in advance if this has been asked before.
We took our brand new 4 seater club car out and floored, it was doing 19 mph according to my speed app on the phone. We were regularly being driven up on and/or being left behind. Are we extraordinarily slow? I thought 20 was the max speed on the multimodals?

20 mph is more than enough for most folk to control the cart. Sadly it still wont stop those "souping them up" some up to 30 mph plus. It will not stop those who, with the wife as a passenger, run across the gate entry as the barrier goes up. You hoot and they wave.... HEY MRS it does say how little your hubby cares for you, as you are the one on the entry side who will get hit first. Are you insured !!!!! Playing chicken with cars is stupid, and cars there do have the right of way. Carts have a STOP SIGN, use it or lose your life. You have all the time in the world.

Villages Kahuna 03-17-2021 01:03 PM

Four-Seaters Heavier, Slower
 
I’d be surprised if your four-seater goes 20 mph. Almost all brands are built and sold as two-seaters, then modified by the dealer to add the two additional seats. The additional structure and seats add quite a bit of weight to the vehicle resulting in slowing the top speed by about 2 mph. When the dealer “builds” the four-seater, they almost never adjust the top speed. That’s particularly true on electric carts because by speeding up the heavier four-seater, the range would be noticeably reduced.

I had exactly this same problem. After determining how infrequently we ever used the rear seats (once or twice a year when the grandkids visited) and how inexpensive the weekly rental for four-seaters was, our solution to regain more speed was to buy a two-seater with oversized radial tires. With that set up and reasonably fresh batteries, I consistently get 22.5 mph.

La lamy 03-17-2021 02:03 PM

When I googled how fast a Club Car golf cart goes, I saw that its top speed was 19 mph, but there was a speed radar street sign on Rio Grande a couple weeks ago and I saw that my pedal to the metal was really 23 MPH. When street sign says 25 MPH max does that mean golf carts are supposed to go slower at 20 MPH or does the max speed apply to both vehicles?

donassaid 03-17-2021 02:33 PM

Great post. My cart will go 25 mph but I only use the additional speed to get around those who poke along at 15 mph or so. If everyone drove at 20 on the straightaway, very few would feel the need to pass.

b0bd0herty 03-17-2021 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1916662)
If you're on a MMP (Multi-modal path) the police will not give a golf cart driver a ticket for speeding because it is private property. However, they will and can give you an open container ticket if you have an open container of alcohol while operating a golf cart on the MMP. The police have also been known to ticket the driver in a golf cart sitting parked at the squares while the driver has the engine turned off and is only listening to music. If you decide to go the square and have a alcoholic drink take a chair and sit next to the cart and not in the cart, you'll be OK.

If you're driving in a cart on a public street such as Hillsborough, Pinellas or St. Charles for example in the golf lane, they will give you ticket if your cart is going more than 20mph. It's not a speeding ticket, Florida law states the definition of a golf cart is
"Golf cart” means a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.

Because of the way the definition of a golf cart is written, if you are exceeding the speed limit of 20, they don't consider you a golf cart, but a LSV (low speed vehicle) in layman's terms, a street legal cart. In which case you need a Florida license tag, full auto insurance, windshield wipers, seat belts and one piece windshield. Since you're operating as LSV but are NOT licensed as such, you'll receive the unregistered vehicle ticket. Also, you do not need to be going more than 20mph, if your cart is simply capable of going more than 20, such as 27 mph mentioned by a poster, that is an illegal cart and be ticketed even if you're not speeding.

From past violators who have posted on TOTV, we've learned that you must appear in County Court in Bushnell and need to bring a letter from a certified mechanic that cart has been dialed back to the appropriate speed for a golf cart. You probably will pay a fine and court costs that are about $450 and if by chance you show up wearing shorts in court, you'll stay until the last case of the day, about 4:30 to be heard.

However, If the police are tracking you going down the MMP over 20 mph and then you get off the MMP (say to stop at the post office) say hello to some hefty fines!

John_W 03-17-2021 03:14 PM

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dewilson58 03-17-2021 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1917172)
Everybody is going to get off the MMP eventually. If the cop has radar, he's not going to bother to set it up at MMP.


Two years ago, a friend was driving South on the MMP on Morse and got nailed for speeding by the long arm of the law.

John_W 03-17-2021 03:41 PM

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dewilson58 03-17-2021 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1917187)
So you're saying, somewhere on Morse south of 466 where Morse has a separate MMP and not a cart lane like north of 466, the cop had radar set up or was in a moving car and came onto Villages private property and gave the cart driver a ticket for driving an unregistered vehicle for going over 20 on an MMP.

Yes sir.

John_W 03-17-2021 04:01 PM

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RonaldJ 03-17-2021 04:22 PM

I rented a home with a cart that did about the same. Trouble is on any kind of incline or even against the wind you are not doing 19.5 MPH. If I had several carts backing up behind me I would pull over and let them by under common courteous. To be behind a cart going slow when you are trying to make a tee time highly frustrating. If everyone one used common sense and let others do what they want we would not be having this discussion.

jimkerr 03-17-2021 04:50 PM

People have passed me on many occasions. I don’t mind at all. Am I supposed to be getting mad? :)

HORNET 03-17-2021 06:27 PM

We are retired, what’s the hurry ?

HORNET 03-17-2021 06:31 PM

Florida law is 19mph on a non-street legal vehicle! Rental karts are to be 14mph

Gmomlaura 03-17-2021 08:49 PM

The correct speed is 19 miles per hour. The carts going faster have fiddled with them to go faster. Of course if they get in accident they will be fined a have fixed the cart to go 19 again. These carts are top heavy and do turn over easily!

EdFNJ 03-17-2021 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Linnberg (Post 1916863)
Our golf cart is street
Legal, registered and insured and we do NOT have windshield wipers.

Lots of LSV rules have been changed including requiring DOT windshields & wipers. Street Legal (LSV) golf carts are out of federal compliance if they don't meet those specs. That does not mean none will get registered because MOST do not go for state inspection or are already on the state "compliance" list. GEM comes to mind as an example. If you obtain a "cart" like an Atomic, while it IS Federally compliant it must be taken up to OCALA for inspection (which is kind of a joke though) to verify compliance as I have had 2 of those that have gone through that.


WHAT ARE THE REQUIRED COMPONENTS OF AN LSV VEHICLE?

All vehicles must meet all U.S. federal safety standards for low-speed vehicles (LSVs) and be equipped with:
  • Automotive safety windshield glass
  • Three-point safety belts
  • Turn signals
  • Headlights and brake lights
  • Horn
  • Mirrors
  • Windshield wipers
  • On-road tires
  • Parking brake
  • The Manufacturer’s Certification Label posted on the vehicle containing the VIN and indicating the TYPE of vehicle as a “Low Speed Vehicle”

EdFNJ 03-17-2021 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 1917233)
Florida law is 19mph on a non-street legal vehicle! Rental karts are to be 14mph

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Originally Posted by Gmomlaura (Post 1917262)
The correct speed is 19 miles per hour. The carts going faster have fiddled with them to go faster. Of course if they get in accident they will be fined a have fixed the cart to go 19 again. These carts are top heavy and do turn over easily!

That is NOT quite correct. The law states THEY MUST NOT BE CAPABLE OF EXCEEDING 20MPH. That means they CAN go up to 20mph but may not EXCEED that speed:

Golf carts are defined in section 320.01(22), Florida Statutes, as “a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.”

Statutes & Constitution :View Statutes Online Sunshine


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