All 3 are out of business permanenetly. The TooJays in Ft Lauderdale has also closed. And none of them has plans to reopen

Those government subsidies were issued months ago. They probably went through the $150,000 and now they can't afford to stay open. I would guess that they are negotiating with the landlord to find a way to stay in place until it's feasible to reopen.

Definitely would not like to see that.

aside from everyone else's concerns
 

yes, I'm concerned about the traffic if everything becomes apartments...I live in Spanish Springs...I'm aggravated about broken promises too....it is what it is...

Would be nice if they build condos. Not everyone wants to rent.

I have always said I think The Villages should offer condos. Then widows and widowers, and married people, could downsize and not worry about lawn and exterior maintenance of their home. Apartments, will appeal to non Villagers, more than people who understand the benefits of having equity in their home. I think it's a great idea for Spanish Springs, it needs something to draw people to it.

The Developer is behind an Iron Curtain and cannot be penetrated by our harping and whining.

I suspect as tge square loads up with apartments complaints for noise will force the square music to be ahut down permanently.

Ah actually I went to the website that for whatever dumb reason can't be linked here - that EVERYONE refers to as a source of information anyway...
And read the sign. You're right. It's "temporarily" closed. But I'm not counting on it ever re-opening. And the sentiment I expressed is the same, because of the wording of the sign. Saying that they can't encourage people to come to the square.

Well of course they can't encourage people to come to the square. They're closed. Closed businesses DIScourage business, they don't ENcourage business. Plus I wasn't impressed with their food and it was overpriced. They had really good italian bread. That's my "best" memory of their food. It just came off as very snippy, that sign. Like they're cutting off their nose to spite their face.

Good luck to them in their new Stonecrest location, and I'm sure the Developer will find a good replacement once commerce gets a little smoother in the coming months.

Ok vomiting on someone’s shoes, now You want to see people run around SS naked, you have jumped the shark. Why let post get the better of you, and come to their level

yes. i had a conversation with someone saying it was forever closed, but i didn't see that mentioned anywhere in a news article. however, if they do have a sign on the door that someone personally saw, it's hard to disagree.

When I was in basic training in the Army, there was a fellow we nicknamed, "Arnie The Sweat." Every time he heard something, the first words out of his mouth were, "Is that a true rumor or a false one?" The developer owns the property - why can't he do to it as he sees fit? It doesn't surprise me that they are considering apartments. Right now, there is a boom in building Assisted Living and Independent Living facilities. Many homeowners are down-sizing as they get older. He sells Villas for people who don't want large homes or large areas of land to maintain. Many people over 65, who come from rented apartments and never had to worry about maintanence would like to live in The Villages. I view this as a smart business move. He's competing with all of the Independent Living Senior facilities that have sprung up and he has the advantage of Village's amenities.

IMHO much of what we know will survive in some form however a large number of small businesses will not survive...small businesses have shallow pockets and depend upon maintaining a constant flow of revenue to meet 'the nut'...closing down for months on end will result in many of them going under....something else will move into the location if it was a desirable location...

some aspects of the economy will certainly immediately experience a 'boom' once it is believed that this pandemic is behind us....we're all tired of being shut in...others will have a longer ramp up

many of those businesses that do survive will have modified their business model...a return to exactly 'what it was' just isn't going to happen IMO

the huge unknown is: with so many out of work and so many businesses going' belly up', what's the approach that various governments will use to continue to meet their ongoing fiscal obligations and begin to pay down the huge debt that cities, states and the Feds are all incurring during this pandemic...

years ago someone estimated that 50% were supporting the other 50%....then I heard a rumor that it was closer to 40% supporting the other 60%....

I'm wondering if I should start stocking up on TP now, cuz if it ever gets to 30% supporting 70% the increased sales and property taxes are going to be crippling

I'll put this into my "crazy rumor" file. It is very large and fun to read.

well said Fred

"Arnie the Sweat"...now that's funny!

Somehow we all remember 'that guy' in the unit. In my basic training unit we had "Rodney Rout-step"...if anybody was going to screw up it was him. When we all moved on to AIT assignments he was left behind, still cleaning out the grease pit waiting for the next BT cycle to begin in a few weeks

In hindsight...maybe he wasn't as dumb as he made out...he was a 2 year draftee, never gave them a hassle about the punishment they handed out and being held over and recycled reduced his chances of heading to Nam....hmmm I wonder if the guy managed to stay in, receive an honorable DD-214 and ended up getting a PhD fully paid for on the GI Bill's dime ????