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Gulfcoast 09-12-2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1831952)
Yes, I'm one of those younger people. Under 60 and still working part time. And living in the Historic section and absolutely in love with the Spanish Springs area. I can't imagine living in any other part of the Villages, though perhaps very close to Sumter Landing some day (within 5 minutes via golf cart).

There are plenty of homes up here for sale by well-known realtors (including the Villages themselves). A few of them are pretty run down and I don't have hope that they'll sell until they foreclose and go for a fraction just to raze the ground and re-build a site-built. But the rest all get sold in a reasonable time (a few days to a couple of months after being listed).

The "younger" folks are already moving in. And we are basically the same age that the first residents were, when THEY moved in, in the 1980's.

We're in our mid 50's and we'll be looking at both the Spanish Springs and Lake Sumter areas. I don't want to rent an apartment, I want to buy a house and I would love to be close enough to be able to walk to the squares for dining and entertainment.

We'll be looking at the newer areas, too, but the older areas have a definite appeal. No doubt about it.

jimjamuser 09-12-2020 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pamelah (Post 1831749)
If nightly entertainment returns to the squares at full blast, as a potential apartment dweller in SS , I’d not rent until both ears went south so I could remove my hearing aids and not be bothered by the nightly noise.

That's pointing out a big problem. As you age you tend to move toward instrumental jazz, classical music, mood music, and relaxing music. You joke about "elevator music" when you are age 50 or under, then you age into more mellow music as you drift away from the hard beat of rock and pop as a steady diet. The music at the squares may stay loud and proud of hard-beat dance music. So, the only solution for the apartments is for the architects to have great insulation in the floors and walls and "sound-proof" windows.

jimjamuser 09-12-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1831782)
I would like to see all people who will be proven to have made exaggerated posts and posted unfounded rumors about the apartments to run naked around Spanish Springs Square.

But then...maybe I wouldn't like to see that.

Good idea, bring back streaking. And maybe hula hoops.

Gulfcoast 09-12-2020 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1831987)
That's pointing out a big problem. As you age you tend to move toward instrumental jazz, classical music, mood music, and relaxing music. You joke about "elevator music" when you are age 50 or under, then you age into more mellow music as you drift away from the hard beat of rock and pop as a steady diet. The music at the squares may stay loud and proud of hard-beat dance music. So, the only solution for the apartments is for the architects to have great insulation in the floors and walls and "sound-proof" windows.

This has not happened to us, yet, and I'm not sure that it will happen. We enjoy classical symphony and jazz but last night we were cranking the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Jimi Hendrix, The Cult, Clapton....and, of course, Jimmy Buffet.

I think that older people often still enjoy a wide range of music. Their concerts tend to be earlier in the day/evening. I'm not sure when the squares shut down shop but I'm guessing it's a lot earlier than, say, a college town would.

jimjamuser 09-12-2020 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1831993)
This has not happened to us, yet, and I'm not sure that it will happen. We enjoy classical symphony and jazz but last night we were cranking the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Jimi Hendrix, The Cult, Clapton....and, of course, Jimmy Buffet.

I think that older people often still enjoy a wide range of music. Their concerts tend to be earlier in the day/evening. I'm not sure when the squares shut down shop but I'm guessing it's a lot earlier than, say, a college town would.

More power to Ya. Kudos! Different folks for different strokes.

Gulfcoast 09-12-2020 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1831997)
More power to Ya. Kudos! Different folks for different strokes.

I think that there is room for all sorts of musical tastes in a place as big as TV. I'm not sure what the proximity of the live entertainment venues to the apartments going in will be, but it would be cool if you could enjoy a concert from your balcony while having the comfort and convenience of your own bathroom, kitchen, etc right there.

CrabCake 09-12-2020 01:39 PM

Sounds perfect!
 
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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1831686)
If they continue to have it part of the 55+ community, and not open it to under 55+, and manage it as the landlord as such with no sublets allowed - then it could be a very good thing.

Imagine some of the homeowners who want to downsize, who are still 100% independent, but want less responsibility that goes into homeownership. Living in the apartments. They no longer need to drive to the squares since they already live there. Since it's only 2 blocks away from the supermarket, they could probably get rid of their cars entirely, rely only on golf carts to get to doctors' offices or whatever else.

If they just need a quart of milk - it's no big deal for them to just walk the two blocks. Or they could even just go downstairs and order a cup of coffee from Dunkin Donuts, no need to buy a quart til shopping day.

But - I lived for 7 years in Boston, so I understand the joys of "city life" as an actual resident, not just a visitor.

If I was single I'd probably jump at the chance to live "downtown" in the Villages square in a little 1-bedroom apartment.

Yes, please!

coffeebean 09-12-2020 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pamelah (Post 1831749)
If nightly entertainment returns to the squares at full blast, as a potential apartment dweller in SS , I’d not rent until both ears went south so I could remove my hearing aids and not be bothered by the nightly noise.

I was just about to say the same thing. The music will be a factor to contend with for anyone with good hearing. I would not ever live so close to live music every night and that music is LOUD.

coffeebean 09-12-2020 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by trinow (Post 1831770)
I read here that Demshares recently received a small business covid19 disbursement of over $150,000 to cover employees salaries and other expenses. Then they close and no employees have jobs. How exactly does that work. Is this reimbursement for monies spent or is the just another way to play the system. Just doesn't sound right. Shouldn't they maybe give the money back? It seems a lot of different small businesses received funds that I believed were for continuing operations and were then used instead for other things

Just came from Stonecrest Country Club which has been taken over by Demshars. Bought tickets to see Johnny Wild's dinner show. The manager told us that all the employees from the Demshars Spanish Springs location are employed at the new location at Stonecrest.

coffeebean 09-12-2020 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pdesensi (Post 1831777)
I’m sure that if and when they build apartments on this square we will lose the nightly music and dancing because of the noise. Just my opinion

I surely hope that this is not in the plans. The squares are jammed packed when they feature popular bands. The population of The Villages keeps growing. It does not seem like a good decision to take away entertainment at one of the squares.

Gulfcoast 09-12-2020 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by coffeebean (Post 1832010)
I was just about to say the same thing. The music will be a factor to contend with for anyone with good hearing. I would not ever live so close to live music every night and that music is LOUD.

If they used the apartments as a reason to stop the live entertainment in the squares, that would be a shame. You would think that a person choosing to live right next to a live music venue would be living there because they want to be close to the live music and all of the action in the town.

I, personally, would prefer to live within a reasonable walking distance of the squares but not actually right there next door to a live entertainment venue. If I could hear the music from a distance at my house, that would be fine. But that's me. I'm sure others would love to listen to a concert below every night.

rustyp 09-12-2020 02:02 PM

Here is the entertainment calendar for Cheer's (Demshar's) at Stonecrest. Does one believe if they offered this entertainment at Demshar's Spanish Springs they would not draw as large a crowd as at Stonecrest ? Something smells fishy.

Saturday 19th
- Joe Carter at the keyboard 4:30-7pm
Tuesday 22nd - Clark Barrios Dinner Show 4-7pm
Thursday 24th
- Dunning Shaw Dinner Show 4-7pm
Saturday 26th
- Afternoon Tea with the Queen 1pm and
Joe Carter at the keyboard 4-7pm
Tuesday 29th
- Wine Pairing Dinner 5-7pm
Coming in October
Wednesday 7th
- Stonecrest Homecoming Dance 4-7pm
Wednesday 14th
- Chef’s Cooking Class Demo 12noon
Tuesday 20th
- Johnny Wild & The Delights Dinner Show 5-7pm
Tuesday 27th
- The Dean Martin & Frank Sinatra Dinner Show
Wednesday 28th
- Wine Pairing Dinner 5pm
Thursday 29th
- Chef’s Cooking Class Demo 12noon

Gulfcoast 09-12-2020 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1832014)
Here is the entertainment calendar for Cheer's (Demshar's) at Stonecrest. Does one believe if they offered this entertainment at Demshar's Spanish Springs they would not draw as large a crowd as at Stonecrest ? Something smells fishy.

Saturday 19th
- Joe Carter at the keyboard 4:30-7pm
Tuesday 22nd - Clark Barrios Dinner Show 4-7pm
Thursday 24th
- Dunning Shaw Dinner Show 4-7pm
Saturday 26th
- Afternoon Tea with the Queen 1pm and
Joe Carter at the keyboard 4-7pm
Tuesday 29th
- Wine Pairing Dinner 5-7pm
Coming in October
Wednesday 7th
- Stonecrest Homecoming Dance 4-7pm
Wednesday 14th
- Chef’s Cooking Class Demo 12noon
Tuesday 20th
- Johnny Wild & The Delights Dinner Show 5-7pm
Tuesday 27th
- The Dean Martin & Frank Sinatra Dinner Show
Wednesday 28th
- Wine Pairing Dinner 5pm
Thursday 29th
- Chef’s Cooking Class Demo 12noon

I would be among the younger demographic moving into TV (later 50's when we get there). The above musical lineup looks like something that would be offered, and very popular, at my 85 year old mom's Independent Living facility and not something that I would go out of my way to see, myself. There is a definite audience for that entertainment, it is just skewed for an older demographic who grew up listening to it which is fine. So the answer is - my mom and friends would go, but my husband and I would not.

A younger crowd of retirees would rather have: Craft beer/wine/whiskey tastings. Comedy shows. Bands playing oldies from the 70's/80's. Current country music hits. Cooking classes could be fun. Maybe trivia games and other interactive types of entertainment. Football/baseball game or special events like the Kentucky Derby parties.

rustyp 09-12-2020 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1832030)
I would be among the younger demographic moving into TV (later 50's when we get there). The above musical lineup looks like something that would be offered, and very popular, at my 85 year old mom's Independent Living facility and not something that I would go out of my way to see, myself. There is a definite audience for that entertainment, it is just skewed for an older demographic who grew up listening to it which is fine. So the answer is - my mom and friends would go, but my husband and I would not.

A younger crowd of retirees would rather have: Craft beer/wine/whiskey tastings. Comedy shows. Bands playing oldies from the 70's/80's. Current country music hits. Cooking classes could be fun. Maybe trivia games and other interactive types of entertainment. Football/baseball game or special events like the Kentucky Derby parties.

You better think twice before moving here because those are the top entertainers that play The Villages when it is open for entertainment. Plenty of bowling leagues here also.

Gulfcoast 09-12-2020 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 1832042)
You better think twice before moving here because those are the top entertainers that play The Villages when it is open for entertainment. Plenty of bowling leagues here also.

Bowling leagues sound like fun and I don't dislike 50's/60's music, I would just rather hear the oldies that I grew up listening, too. My age group is now beginning to retire now so I don't think that's it's unreasonable to want some entertainment options geared more towards my age group. TV is a big place, I really do think that there is room for variety.

A craft beer bar with dart boards and pool tables, maybe outdoor corn hole, would be fun. A restaurant offering low carb appetizers and low sugar drinks would be a hit.

Maybe a fashion show with popular styles in the Villages.


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