Under 19, on parole, mother and father do not want him in their house, he’s a good boy, grandma and grandpa love him so they take him in.

Get a security system, tip of the day.

I have a friend whose son came to live with him in FL, he was under 18 and this was not in TV. In the first 45 days in FL he was in jail more than out. If a mother can not stand her own kid he is a problem.

I wouldn't buy in TV if I knew this rule was not being enforced so I'll be watching this closely.

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Everyone wants to believe the rules are the rules and they must be enforced.I agree with this and it's why I moved here. However they are only enforced if the violation is reported and very few people would rat out their neighbors. So the fountain that never runs water,the nice lawn ornament,the camper or motor home in the road with water and power running from the house, the boat in the driveway, the rubermaid storage locker that sticks above the villa wall, the work that's being done without permission or didn't go to ARB,the person with more pets then allowed and even though it's not in the deeds don't tell me how fast I can drive my golf cart etc. As TV gets bigger there will only be more of this happening. The only to prevent this is to call a in a complaint. You don't have to give your name.
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You are so right Caroline...AND BY THE WAY....Do you folks know this poster, Caroline, is a male who lives in Caroline? And always the voice of reason.

This is a rumor, but probably the rules need to be brought to the attention of potential buyers. It sure hit MY hot button.:undecided:

And VillagesFlorida who is a girl and NOT VillagesFl who is a guy...VillagesFlorida...anyone who has read your posts would know that you are kind and sensitive. (I wish you'd put your sweet picture on again, because I had you mixed up for awhile)

What would we do without each other to point out things and make us think?[/QUOTE]
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Here my take on this. When you move in you are given a set of rules and regulations. If you don't like the rules and regulations move some where else. We moved into our previous subdivision because of the rules. You sign for the CCR's at closing. But there is always someone that think the rules don't apply to them. Having spent 4 years on the board it is a never ending struggle to make people understand these rules are there for a reason. 99.9 percent of the people move there because of the rules. I know it's hard to turn someone end but the rules are the rules. I have no problem turning someone in. The rules must be enforced or it will start looking like and becoming like any other area in the county. If you don't like the rules don't move here.

I think I got it. Will not be adding on to our place. Will not do any construction work on the house. The "Pistol Police" will turn me in.Better keep better track on the number of days the grandkids visit.

By George, I think he's got it! *emphasis on heavy English accent!*

I'm amazed at the number of people who without knowing the cicrcumstances are willing to have children with or without disabilities thrown out of the Villages! Why don't they challange all the obnoxious dog owners who completly disregard the rules and regulations concerning pets? (Oh No! Not my sweet poochie!)

There were two grandmothers living here whom had a grandchild going to school here. They alternating living locations every 30 days to confuse people

So this falls into the "it's only illegal if you get caught" school of thought. I guess honoring your word has become passe'.

Some run stop signs, there's always people who will break the rules.

I am very surprised, if this is the case, that there are children being allowed to live in TV. The reason my husband and I are moving there is because it is an adult community with strict rules. This is where we want to retire and spend our "golden years". Rules are rules, you break them with something big like this and someone should turn you in. I'm not a snip or a rat but we are all paying for a lifestyle and to let people break the rules on this one would be sending the wrong message. I want what I'm paying for and that is an adult community with everything in it's place and no children. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt!

A lot of good points have been made here supporting deed restriction enforcement and I think mikeod has made a good case. His comment relative to the "slippery slope" should be seriously considered.

I am a former Florida licensed real estate broker and former resident of a number of deed restricted communities. I have seen first hand the results where restrictions are waived, overlooked or ignored. It doesn't take long for real problems to arise including reduction in property values. Another result is neighbor versus neighbor. HOA meetings get real nasty.

I am a lot more comfortable in our CDD governed community as opposed to a HOA governed community.

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Children under the age of 19 are NOT allowed to live in The Villages.

I would guess that this is incorrect information that has been repeated... (a rumor) or it has not yet been brought to the attention of the people who enforce deed restrictions if it is true. The overwhelming feeling of most people is to not allow this rule to be broken.

There have been many sad situations discussed on this forum; military parents deployed to the war zone, illness, financial difficulties, loss of homes, but none the less, sad as it is, children are not allowed to live here.

Sad and hard as it sounds, an infraction leads to no rules at all. Houses are not hard to sell in The Villages thank goodness, so it is not as difficult to move nearby, as it might be in other areas of the country, if grandchildren must live with their grandparents.

If we had small grandchilden and they were orphaned or neglected and needed to live with us, I would be adult enough to realize that we had to make a change and move out of this community. I wouldn't try to force my life situation on other people and I think most people would do the same. Living here is a privilege, not a right.

Well said Graciegirl.

the Rules iz the rules
 

We deliberately selected to live here BECAUSE OF THE RULES. I agree with sweet Gracie's sensible comments entirely. When we lived in VA, we too looked after our adult son, and his children but did not think for one minute to have them all move here with us. We did our bit..................

I do know of instances where children have lived in TV under the age of 19. I'm not saying I condone it nor am I condemning it. Two of the incidents were extraordinary circumstances (one was grandparents waiting to sell their home because they would be raising their grandchild; the other was a temporary situation). Another incident that I have heard of but honestly don't know if true is that in one of the Bridgeport villages kids have been growing up in TV for several years. In each of these three instances, neighbors did not report them to Community Watch. So, it is against the rules but TV cannot do anything about it without someone reporting that a child has been here more than 30 days.

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Right on Gracie.

I would do the same. In a Heartbeat Ruth and I would move back North if I had to raise them grandkids for a unfortunate reason.

But I would not move them here. I can't wait till they come visit!

And RedWitch I Love the Buffalo Pic you have! But that was another past thread !

Spot on! When we decided to purchase a home in Florida we could have saved many thousands of dollars by buying elsewhere, but we fell in love with both The Villages and.....its rules.

Yes, life throws us unexpected curve balls and for anyone thinking of moving into a 55+ community - anywhere, they need to understand and abide by those local rules and restrictions.

I'm not, on any level, suggesting we count the days of children who visit their grandparents stay to make sure they do not violate thier maximun stay. For me, life is too short to worry about children extending their stay.

If I were to notice a neighbor that had a child ( not disabled ) living with them for several months, I would not hesitate to have a discussion with that neighbor and, if necessary, then contact TV. I say "if necessary" because there are always extenuating circumstances that may require temporary help of family members living in TV.

On a closing note, I draw the line when I see one neighbor with a double wide trailer in their driveway serving as a second home for their friends and/or another peddling hot dogs from their lawn.

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah and Winter Solstice.

Ok let's remember Santa is checking his list for the nauty and nice... kids or no kids lets let whomever have a HAPPY HOLIDAY or Merry Christmas... This link should rest until after the holidays..Peace on Earth or or at least in TV.

Again... You brought it to the top of the pile to tell everyone to let it rest??? Really????

And... What's with people deciding when a thread should "rest" the thread rests when the last person posts, the OP makes a request OR the Admin decides.

Ok.... crawling back under my rock again.... Carry on!

:agree: WHOLEHEARTEDLY !

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I seem to remember reading in The Daily Sun a few years ago about a couple who had to take in a grandchild and had to move out of The Villages.

No whining, no knashing of teeth...they were just moving and spoke of their plans to move back when the child went off on their own. They knew the rules and were following them.

I think the story was in The Sun as a purpose piece!!!

One of the problem with letting some people abridge the rules while all others follow them, is establishing an unlevel field. Where's the fairness for this couple when others ignore the rules....

There are choices...one can do the adult thing and chose to follow the rules or one can sneak around.

A good creedo to follow .......
Know the rules (children, dogs, speeds, parking, use of ammenities, etc.)
Follow the rules,
Don't whine about the rules!

Are all these rules posted somewhere so wanabees can be introduced to them? Perhaps one only sees the rules at closing.

Here you go...........enjoy!
http://www.districtgov.org/departmen.../download.aspx

Thank you Bogie shooter, most helpful.

Makes you wonder. Why did they build the the schools on campus? Over 1000 students under 19 years of age. Did you ever go to Burger King, CVS or Walgreens after school lets out, nothing but kids.Do you see how many kids go into the villages gates after school?Maybe lots of kids going to grandma;s home after school. Do you really have to work for the villages to attend. If you work the concession stand or work the gate,is this satisfactory as far as working for the villages?Posting this to show that anyone under 19 cannot stay here is not quite true. Look around you see it.

Mean Women
 

Sounds like the ex-wife must live here!:boxing2:

The schools are built for the folks who work in TV and are parents!! NOT for folks who want to break the rules! I know for a fact that there are parents who work here JUST for the schools. I had a conversationn with a gal who worked in a local chiropractic office...lives in Ocala but brings her child(ren) here to school. I'm sure there are many such folks!!!

Just what gates are you referring to??

This is not a gated community, it is a community with gates. Big difference.

A HYPOTHETICAL but plausable and probably common scenario:

Grandpa and Grandma sell their house wherever and move to TV, Their income is sufficient to live on but savings aren't enough to just buy another house somewhere else without selling their home in TV first. Now for some reason they have to take in a child. They try to do the right thing and list the house in TV at a reasonable price and plan on moving but the house doesn't sell for months.

They have broken the rules! So what do they do? Give the house away? Put the kid(s) into foster care? live on the streets?

Sound far fetched? probably not.

From the tone of some posts I would bet that some would be OK with saying GET OUT and not care about the reason they got pushed into a situation they didn't expect or that they were trying to "Do the right thing"

The children who go to The Villages Charter Schools DO NOT live in The Villages. They are children of employees of TV or any business located in TV. They may live in one of the three family neighborhoods (Spring Arbor, Bison Valley, Oak Ridge) or in any of the surrounding communities. Residents of TV's family neighborhoods cannot use TV facilities (golf courses, pools, recreation centers, etc.) They CAN go to stores, movies, restaurants and town squares, walk or drive on the streets and pass through the gates, as can ANYONE of any age from anywhere.

You might want to learn more about The Villages Charter Schools. See http://www.thevillagescharterschool....enrollment.asp. Many people say they are the best public schools in the State of Florida.

They are not a florida public school,they are a charter school.Big difference.

And your point is??

Harry.

I read some of your old posts to see what is your perspective. I think that I understand that you are considering The Villages and have not yet visited here...this may have changed since some of your earlier posts asking if all homes were modular etc.

It will be a nice surprise when you arrive, if you have not done so, to see just what an incredible place this is. It is HUGE. It is CLEAN. It is filled with busy happy people in there pretty homes and on their pretty bikes and in their handsome golf carts. It is unlike anyplace I had ever seen before.

One of the reasons is that the rules are enforced. There is not someone's grandsons car up on blocks...anywhere. No swingsets, no fences, no signs in yards even allowed south of 466. There are hundreds of restaurants and a huge total of 42 golf courses if you count both executive and championship...acres of lovely planting, beautiful. beautiful.beautiful.

There is an incredible amount of building and selling homes here as many do move on to the village of heavenly. We didn't even advertise our home for sale. Someone asked us to sell it to them. Houses aren't hard to sell here.

Children aren't allowed to live here. The rules are enforced. As soon as they would be discovered, other plans would have to be put in place.

I don't think anyone would have to put a child in foster care but they might have to rent out their home...not too hard to do. As you will see as you visit here and read this forum.

Moving out and moving back in again is less expensive here than it is up North or out East or out West. Or you could rent or sell your home furnished and buy a much less expensive one also furnished somewhere else in Florida.

It would take a grown up attitude and grown up work ethic but most of us who live here have that. It would require a change of plans but not necessarily an awful scenario.

It is something for everyone to think about who is considering moving here.

Gracie the mean.

Meanie?
 

awwww Gracie, you couldn't be mean if your tried.....

The Villages is the most beautiful place I have ever lived.... Mile upon miles of cart paths going through nothing but beauty! Lovely landscaped yards as far as the eye can see.

That's why we came here, that's why our property values didn't dump like the rest of the US in 2008 and that's why they are building so many homes every month.

Come on down and.... As Gracie would say "drink the Kool-aid"

and the point is---Someone stated "one of the best public schools in Florida, They are not a public school,they are a charter school. operate on a different playing level.