Gracie, Your stating that people should follow the rules is anything but mean. We all, at some time, have to face major life changing situations, such as a grandparent having to raise a grandchild or moving away from family and friends whether for employment or retirement or death in our family. We may seek advice or help from friends in making a final decision, but we must make that final decision on our own. What we shouldn't do is expect the rest of the world (or community) to change to adapt to our individual situation. After the initial shock of having to make that decision, we need to move forward.

With All Due Respect
 

I was going to post something like this along similar lines. I can see if someone was forced into a situation where this dilemna would require doing something in an immediate fashion. I would feel that one might be overwhelmed in dealing with this type of situation. With that being said, the other side of the coin might be if someone decided to extend their living quarters without the proper approval and was in the mind set that I can do what I want. Being able to move from TV to another place would be a lot easier than other parts of the country as homes sell much quicker.

I'm sure most people want to follow the rules and do the right thing. If everyone was allowed to do what they want and not follow the rules, TV beauty would be diminished and affect property values.

As always, these types of issues are not clear cut and I'm sure the powers to be are not so cold heated as to not allow ample time to faciltate a happy resolution for all concerned.

They are public schools, funded with your tax dollars. From the Florida Board of Education website:

"Charter schools are public schools that operate under a performance contract, or a “charter” which frees them from many regulations created for traditional public schools while holding them accountable for academic and financial results."

More at http://www.floridaschoolchoice.org/i...hools/faqs.asp

TV's Charter Schools help to attract quality professionals (such as doctors and nurses), stores and other businesses to come here.

This is a surprise, just listed today a home in TV.

703 HARPER PL
THE VILLAGES, FL 32159-3010
VLS# 210635
3 Bed 2 Bath / 1392 Sq. Ft.
$149,000

http://www.thevillages.com/homes/vls...?vlsnum=210635

Oak Meadows is a family community adjacent to TV.
It is one of the communities for people who work here.

That area was built for families and was intended for people working in TV. The subdivision has no direct access to TV and they do not have the same amenity rights as Villagers'. There is another one on the west side of TV. That development was completed last year.

The Villages High School has an excellent record for graduating seniors to attend college. I believe I saw it was about 92%. Not too many high schools can say that!

Spring Arbor Village
 

This is also Villages properties section and is designed for families with children. They have no amenity privileges or the associated fees.

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Since you have seem to taken an interest in me I will give my perspective on TV and this subject in particular.

My wife and I have made 1 visit so far and have another planned for this spring. We have no doubts about the positives but I will continue to delve out the warts. How else can you make an informed decision?

As far as the rules are concerned I have no problem with them. But the enforcement has to include common sense. I spent 25 years as a LEO and the majority of laws are black and white but there are plenty of gray areas. ie what defines a home business?

In keeping with the child scenario can you make new living arraignments in 30 days or less? If you have custody of children thrust upon you there will likely also be legal issues that go with it. And finding a new address with an immediate availability could be tricky. I am not advocating ignoring the rule(s) but to keep in mind we are not discussing a lawn ornament, Some things take time.

I would like to correct the part of your post concerning modular homes in TV, the conversation was concerning the historic side not ALL of TV

Slippery slope
 

I tend to not believe this "HYPOTHETICAL" scenario is "probably common."

If it was we would see more of it happening. I live in a Village of over 500 units and feel reasonably assured that there isn't one case...I pretty sure we would know about it...we know when people have visitors, never mind grandchildren living there.

Its a slippery slope if its allowed....
Hypothetical scenario - 1 child living next door to you, OK?
How about 2 children.....3...4....etc.? At what point do you become concerned?

Some immediate ways of possibly "doing the right things"...

• Rent out the TV home and rent in another location which allows children,
• Try selling the TV house(things turn over pretty quickly here in TV) and rent or buy somewhere else,
• Seek assistance from family, church, state for alternative living arrangements.

Adults find a way! Others just want their way!

I was just wondering if there are young children living here due to a personal problem would not someone notice. Unless they have them hidden in a closet (problem in itself) i would think they would be outside and going to and from school. If so whoever lives near them must know...are they just keeping quiet?

Could be.............

Never heard this before, but I like it!

Rats
 

As a "gonnabee", and a parent of a 27-year old, I'm ready to be with just "kids" my own age! I've developed into an "old geezer" who likes to eat out without whiny kids next to me. I don't even like the idea of any kids living with parents in TV (special needs excluded). Yes, our son lives at home here, but won't be making the move to TV with us. Once we move, that will be a time for DW and I to enjoy each other. We have "given" all our live and now I'm ready to "take" some time just for US!!

I know many of you will have exception to my opinion, but isn't that what we all do here (express our opinion)?

Keep in mind that we fell in love with TV in 2005 and aren't there yet, so we are SO HUNGRY to be with "kids" our own age. In my opinion, everyone should be at least 55. :spoken:

Nope... I can't find an argument here.

I guess I don't understand why so many parents are handing their kids over to others to raise them and if you do find that you can no longer raise you children, why hand them over to people who are really too old to give them the life they should have. Are there not younger family members who can take them? People with kids they can play with? People who can move a lot easier and faster then someone 55, 65, or 75 years old?

For many people this is the time of our lives that many children have to start taking care of their parents. Instead, they are sending their children to the parents?

I agree with the poster who said that.... it's not fair for children to live in a place with only old people.

For now..... I'm done!

:agree:

Here is another reason: I just heard a go-cart running up and down our street here. I walked up the driveway and the driver was all of 10 or 12!

You guessed it. . . DUMB parents giving pre-teens a :cus: go cart for Christmas! If grandkids start moving to TV, get ready for some of the same! Grandparents are many times worse than parents in "spoiling" their "little darlings"!! REMEMBER - the definition of a brat is a kid who behaves like your's but belongs to a neighbor! :)

I DON'T WANT THAT IN TV!!! I'm sick of young people who don't take the precautions to avoid children when they themselves are still a teenager! I couldn't agree more with your statement about "passing" the kids on to someone else to raise. Haven't we done our part?? Is our reward being given our grandkids to raise? I THINK NOT! :yuck:

I love your last sentence "For now . . . I'm done!" :coolsmiley: You ROCK Angiefox10!

:agree:

I agree with most of your argument, but I take exception to the above statement. We became frogs in September and I will turn 50 next month. Are you saying I shouldn't be here?

this looks like a huge issue
 

This looks like a huge issue by looking at all the responces to this thread. I did notice a lot ogf younger people ,in there 20s or so at the different resturants and bars a while back.

Sport's Pools
 

The past couple of days when I have been at the sport's pool shortly after 7:00AM, there have been teenagers/young adults in the pool. It is clearly stated that these pools are for residents only. Are grandparents not aware of the rule or do they choose to ignore it? Maybe that is why the kids are there so early (when they feel that no one is checking???) Should there be large signs on each door emphasizing that the pool is for residents only? If this is happening over the Christmas season when grandchildren are here, does it also happen in the summer? I really want to enjoy swimming/water walking in the pool without being run over by people who shouldn't be there in the first place!:spoken:

You will regularly see a lot of young people around and about in TV. They are generally friends and relatives of residents, or locals who frequent the shops and restaurants here.All the businesses here are open to anyone, except Katie Bells which is for residents and their guests.

Remember that the restriction applies to persons under 19, so it is fine if someone has an adult (19 or older) living with them. This thread is more concerned with people under 19 living here beyond the 30 day annual limit and/or those who choose to ignore the deed restrictions.

Most restaurants, (K. Belles excepted), bars, town squares, stores and movies are open to the public and many young people from outside TV are patrons. 20 year olds can live with their parents in TV.

When you control the student population, this is not that hard to realize, but I'm pretty sure 92% is on the high side.

I'm pretty sure they can't attend The Charter School. You must provide an address to the school when registering and a Villages address would be a huge red flag. I teach off sight and have 4 students that are currently living in The Village. All are extreme hardship cases that were totally unforseen.

I'm sorry for the last post, it was in response to this actually:



Makes you wonder. Why did they build the the schools on campus? Over 1000 students under 19 years of age. Did you ever go to Burger King, CVS or Walgreens after school lets out, nothing but kids.Do you see how many kids go into the villages gates after school?Maybe lots of kids going to grandma;s home after school. Do you really have to work for the villages to attend. If you work the concession stand or work the gate,is this satisfactory as far as working for the villages?Posting this to show that anyone under 19 cannot stay here is not quite true. Look around you see it.

Are you saying they live with their grandparents in The Villages? Or are they living in one of the adjacent family communities?

I am not trying to argue with you jbdfan. I just like to quell rumors. It is very hard to do that when most of us are posting anonymously.

The charter school does not have to continue to educate a child who breaks their rules.

I read one of your posts that said you were looking for a long term rental in TV. And another one that said you have a child in the Charter School. Perhaps he is now over 19.

Originally Posted by jbdlfan
I'm pretty sure they can't attend The Charter School. You must provide an address to the school when registering and a Villages address would be a huge red flag. I teach off sight and have 4 students that are currently living in The Village. All are extreme hardship cases that were totally unforseen.

I hope you do not teach English as I am sure you meant "off site". LOL

Yes, my son is now 19 and no the students I mentioned do not attend the charter school but do live in The Villages.

Yes, I do teach English!!!!

This is getting good...................and then he/she said..:popcorn::popcorn:

Pass some of that down this way, chuckster! :D

:popcorn:

Bill :)

I wonder.............

Lord
 

Oh nooooooooo! After 35 years of trying to teach English to Vocational Students who could give a R--- A-- about it . Unless it had to do with HP.

It's our no stress! TOTV. People like me with arthritis and typos are everywhere!

Bill - pass the :popcorn: I can't spell it

Come on man... I know the difference between “sight” and “site”, but I’ve made the same typo when posting. If you have to nit-pick spelling and/or grammar, then you must not be able to find fault with his/her argument.

I thought this number was high so I took a closer look. My son graduated last year with a graduating class around 120ish, if memory serves me correctly. According to that statistic, that would leave only about 10 students not going to college. I know personally at least 6 that did not go on to further their education. Considering only about 60% of the students even took the SAT, I would venture to guess that number is substantially lower. By the way, the average SAT score was only 1490, not that impressive, certainly not remarkable. Sometimes you just can't buy all the hype.

The Village Voice
 

World Class Results for Student and Community
Director of The Villages Charter Schools, Dr. Randy McDaniel, reports that TVCS has established an overall graduation rate over 99% (with a dropout rate of a mere 0.2%). This year’s graduating class has 93% of its seniors going on to higher education programs. He says that the elementary, middle, and high schools have a consistent record of “A” rating by the State of Florida and the TVCS High School is one of only 30 in the state with five straight years of “A” rating. Businesses in The Villages claim that TVCS is a great recruiting and retention feature. Dr. McDaniel agrees, adding that about 35% of his students’ families are in medical practices in The Villages.


http://www.thevha.net/the-villages-v...31&article=705

As I have said, don't buy the hype. The graduation number is controlled by the stdents junior year. Funny how Dr. McDaviel can tell us how many students are going on to college BEFORE the fall semester has started. Did he mention the decrease in writing and science scores? Look, I'm not here to just bash the school, but you folks that think this school is the utopian answer are sadly mistaken. Our kids aren't abe to compete for attendance at the higher level colleges due to the lack of IB programs. If I knew four years ago what I know now, my kid would have went elsewhere, that is from a teacher, a coach, and as the parent of a 4.35 gpa and 1900 SAT kid. And before you want to tell me that the Charter school was responsible for that, his test scores dropped sinced attending here.....

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Good one GG

(when did the max SAT go from 1600 to ______ 1900?)


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grandkids
 

Your right jblfan about hype not only at school all over the place newspaper, TV, this site.got to sell houses make the money make hay while the sun shines.