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jump4 03-27-2024 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2315293)
Are there more microplastics in the food chain or have we gotten better at detecting them and picked this as the next focus for our hysteria?

In either case, isn't this still a reason for concern?

Bill14564 03-27-2024 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jump4 (Post 2316240)
In either case, isn't this still a reason for concern?

If we are just better at detecting and the microplastics have been there for decades then are they really a growing problem?

jimjamuser 03-27-2024 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2316184)
You know a ballot initiative/referendum on a plastic bag ban....in FL, would be defeated soundly. You know that.

On the flip side, in MD and MA, it would pass comfortably.

Yes, that is likely true. I form my opinions and utmost confidence that I am right.........at least 90% of the time.

jimjamuser 03-27-2024 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Djean1981 (Post 2316186)
We reuse our plastic bags from the store to double bag food, bones, etc. Biodegradable plastic grocery bags have been available for a while. Sometimes, there's a small charge for them. I'm surprised they're not available around here..

I am NOT very surprised. YOU are living in a somewhat backward leaning area. You can prove that by the preponderance of gasoline golf carts vs E-golf carts. And the LOUD, howling gasoline vs Electric lawnmowers here.

jimjamuser 03-27-2024 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jump4 (Post 2316240)
In either case, isn't this still a reason for concern?

That is a BIG, FAT YES !

Shipping up to Boston 03-27-2024 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2316237)
Too late, you now have a "target" on your back...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9Dfv3uVkAobezh.jpg

Are those MD deer...a couple of chunkasaurus'!

Dusty_Star 03-27-2024 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2315871)
To get back on topic, my only point about this thread is that Florida doesn't need a state law banning plastic grocery bags.

Whoo hoo! Your are 100% correct. Florida does not need a state law banning certain grocery bags. Anyone concerned can bring their own bags. I see many people doing just that & frequently do so myself. Though admittedly more in my case for the thermal properties of my bags to keep my shopping fresh & cool.

Stu from NYC 03-27-2024 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2316246)
I am NOT very surprised. YOU are living in a somewhat backward leaning area. You can prove that by the preponderance of gasoline golf carts vs E-golf carts. And the LOUD, howling gasoline vs Electric lawnmowers here.

Interesting comment. You have previously indicated you do not drive an EV.

Are you driving an E cart?

Or is this another case of do as I say not as I do. Asking for a friend.

rsimpson 03-27-2024 06:44 PM

China and India FIRST!
 
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Originally Posted by Darield (Post 2315288)
I am amazed that Florida still allows the use of plastic bags in grocery stores. So many other states have banned it. We now have microplastics (very small plastic particles) in our agriculture soil, ocean and just about anywhere you can think of. There are so many studies that verify the dangers of plastics and I cringe every time I go to the grocery store and see 10-20-30 plastic bags per cart. Just one Publics said they can go through thousands of plastic bags in a day. Here is one link that talks about how serious this problem has gotten. It's our new DDT.How microplastics are infiltrating the food you eat . There are now studies beiing done of earthworms ingesting micro-plastics. ScienceDirect


India and China put more plastic (bags,straws,etc.) into the Ocean than all other nations COMBINED. When you get them to STOP, I will worry about by grocery transport methods.

Rapscallion St Croix 03-27-2024 07:49 PM

One of the biggest sources of microplastics is the washing of synthetic fabrics. Plastic bags are chump change.

mickey100 03-28-2024 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2316241)
If we are just better at detecting and the microplastics have been there for decades then are they really a growing problem?

Well they could very well be a growing problem. One thing that is happening is that the rate of cancer in younger people is rising dramatically. The global incidence of early-onset cancer increased by 79.1% and early-onset cancer deaths rose by 27.7% from 1990 to 2019, a 2023 study in the journal BMJ Oncology found. Plastics in our food? Exposure to pesticides in our environment and our food? Ultraprocessed foods? Sugary drinks? Lack of physical activity? Researchers don't know at this point. If I was in that age group, I wouldn't be burying my head in the sand, I would try to eat safely, with common sense, trying to avoid where possible, things that could certainly be carcinogenic. Plastics and pesticides certainly come to mind. Researchers have found that microplastics damage human cells, decrease reproductive health and disrupt the endocrine system. A couple of obvious things to avoid - bottled water; microwaving food in plastic containers; use organic foods whenever available.

thelegges 03-28-2024 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dcammel (Post 2315956)
Gotta chuckle they want to control plastic bags that carry home your plastic butter tubs, ketchup bottles, spaghetti sauce, mustard, milk bottles, pill bottles, bacon wrappers, self-service meat items, and hundreds of other products in plastic containers. Sounds like another opportunity for a Biden tax based on usage!

Political posts are not allowed.

Maybe older gen buy plastic tubs of generic junk, Then again eating processed food plastic is the least of problems. Well not at most ages here way too late to bother changing habits. At this late in the game nothing is going to improve lifeline.

Our family
Butter in wax paper, sauce, mustard, milk in glass,
All meat is wrapped in butcher paper, from the farm
Laundry soap comes in sheets or bar in box

Plastic in our house is less than 17%. It not about change our whole life we raised, can, or froze food. Mt guess is 80% of residents in TV have eaten processed food their whole life, so plastic is just a norm for many

fdpaq0580 03-28-2024 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by firefighter4u (Post 2316180)
we have bigger plastic problem that just plastic bags.

Agree! But you have to start somewhere. If plastic bags is the first step, the impact on society will be no big deal. Can't get much simpler change to adapt to. One small change for a man or woman. One large benefit for mankind!

fdpaq0580 03-28-2024 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2316184)
You know a ballot initiative/referendum on a plastic bag ban....in FL, would be defeated soundly. You know that.

On the flip side, in MD and MA, it would pass comfortably.

Actually, no one knows it until it has been tried. You might be surprised. Or not. But until it is actually tried, it is still unknown.

fdpaq0580 03-28-2024 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2316227)
From our resident Climate Change Chicken Little...

Tsk, tsk. Name calling makes one appear, well, you know.


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