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fdpaq0580 03-28-2024 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2316233)
Nonsense...

Sense. Most certainly.

retiredguy123 03-28-2024 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2316325)
Actually, no one knows it until it has been tried. You might be surprised. Or not. But until it is actually tried, it is still unknown.

No one is stopping anyone from bringing reusable bags into a grocery store. So, what is the problem?

Caymus 03-28-2024 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2316325)
Actually, no one knows it until it has been tried. You might be surprised. Or not. But until it is actually tried, it is still unknown.

The states that people are fleeing have eliminated the bags.

Bill14564 03-28-2024 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2316335)
No one is stopping anyone from bringing reusable bags into a grocery store. So, what is the problem?

There is still a choice. As long as there is a choice, someone is going to make the wrong choice and do the wrong thing. We can't have people doing the wrong thing. We can't allow choices. (Gross generalization, not my personal feelings)

fdpaq0580 03-28-2024 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2316335)
No one is stopping anyone from bringing reusable bags into a grocery store. So, what is the problem?

For some, no problem. Others want plastic bags provided. There in lies the concern. That the ubiquitous plastic grocery bag may go the way of the dodo In a move to help clean up the environment. Pick a side and join the discussion.

jimjamuser 03-28-2024 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapscallion St Croix (Post 2316289)
One of the biggest sources of microplastics is the washing of synthetic fabrics. Plastic bags are chump change.

I believe that the LINK we read said otherwise - basically that plastic bags were a big part of the islands of plastic in the Gulf and the Pacific Ocean.

jimjamuser 03-28-2024 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2316338)
The states that people are fleeing have eliminated the bags.

When new arriving Floridians that want to be all year residents - feel the summer HEAT and humidity and the reality of hurricanes - they will be "fleeing back up north". Also, many people are NOT aware that hurricanes in the vicinity of TV Land then SPAWN out tornadoes, which are more dangerous than the hurricanes.

LeRoySmith 03-28-2024 08:08 AM

Here's another interesting article about the trash island in the Pacific (1 of 5 around the world).

10 interesting facts about the Great Pacific Garbage Patch

There's a close up picture of the floating plastic and it's mostly chunks, not bags, but it sounds like the fragile plastic breaks down into small pieces quickly. They say 74% of the diet of sea turtles within the GPGP consists of plastic debris and 46% of the island is fishing nets. They also say they are going to have 90% of the floating stuff cleaned up in the next 15 to 20 years but most of it isn't floating.

I can't guess to the accuracy as it is written by Eradicate Plastic, they may be biased.

ThirdOfFive 03-28-2024 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2316341)
There is still a choice. As long as there is a choice, someone is going to make the wrong choice and do the wrong thing. We can't have people doing the wrong thing. We can't allow choices. (Gross generalization, not my personal feelings)

One word.

Legislature.

If people feel strongly enough about something, then approach your legislator and make your feelings known. If enough people who feel as strongly approach THEIR legislators and make their like feelings known, then in time legislative action may be taken with possibly a law passed that reflects those strong feelings. And, of course, if the governor of the state under discussion agrees, he or she will sign it into law. Otherwise, my condolences on their passionate, albeit fruitless, efforts.

It is the way things work in America. Of the people, by the people, and for the people. No minority, no matter how strongly they feel about something, gets to thwart the will of the majority.

Shipping up to Boston 03-28-2024 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2316325)
Actually, no one knows it until it has been tried. You might be surprised. Or not. But until it is actually tried, it is still unknown.

True
Except you had a recent 'mandate' that was widely rejected by the majority of Floridians, TV no exception.....as a sample. You're in the wrong state for this type of governance.

Bill14564 03-28-2024 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2316352)
One word.

Legislature.

If people feel strongly enough about something, then approach your legislator and make your feelings known. If enough people who feel as strongly approach THEIR legislators and make their like feelings known, then in time legislative action may be taken with possibly a law passed that reflects those strong feelings. And, of course, if the governor of the state under discussion agrees, he or she will sign it into law. Otherwise, my condolences on their passionate, albeit fruitless, efforts.

It is the way things work in America. Of the people, by the people, and for the people. No minority, no matter how strongly they feel about something, gets to thwart the will of the majority.

That discussion makes my point.

I'm thinking of two phrases, one is "tyranny of the majority" and the other gets a little to close to the line to mention in this post.

retiredguy123 03-28-2024 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2316343)
For some, no problem. Others want plastic bags provided. There in lies the concern. That the ubiquitous plastic grocery bag may go the way of the dodo In a move to help clean up the environment. Pick a side and join the discussion.

Plastic grocery bags may eventually become obsolete. But, there are about 10 Publix stores in The Villages area and I shop at one at least 4 times per week. Publix is the most successful grocery store in the area, if not in the state. My unscientific estimate is that at least 80 percent of customers rely on the free plastic bags to transport their groceries. I don't think it is anywhere near time to force those shoppers to change their habits just because a minority has an environmental agenda.

Velvet 03-28-2024 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2316341)
There is still a choice. As long as there is a choice, someone is going to make the wrong choice and do the wrong thing. We can't have people doing the wrong thing. We can't allow choices. (Gross generalization, not my personal feelings)

Lol exactly Communist thinking. And who decided what is the wrong choice? The dictator/head party member.

MrFlorida 03-28-2024 08:35 AM

Why do people who come to Florida want to make it like the state they just fled from ?

Shipping up to Boston 03-28-2024 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2316364)
Why do people who come to Florida want to make it like the state they just fled from ?

You forgot other countries too. Just sayin'


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