I wonder if Kennedy was really shot with one single shot rifle?

If it were a vote-able question on a Fl. ballot , I would vote to ban plastic grocery bags.

As i always say, "we have to start taking care of our MOTHER". It is the only one we have.

Just as long as the trash does not wind up in a landfill, I'm good.

LOL just like making drugs illegal stopped people from using drugs. Did it make drugs "less difficult to come by"? Don't be so naive.

Well, that explains a lot....

This site explains the Covanta system. The website is excellent and is full of great information.........

Home | Covanta

I throw out all my plastic bags into the trash. Covanta burns it. My plastic bags that I discard in the trash do not wind up in a landfill or the ocean.

Here, in The Villages, no plastic bag goes into a landfill or an ocean. Haven't you been reading about Covanta on this thread? No worries. Use all the plastic bags you want. Just toss them in the regular trash and Covanta will incinerate them and turn them into electricity. WIN....WIN.

Plastics are all around us. We all use plastics in one way or another. Embrace it. Here in The Villages, we do not have to feel guilty about using plastics. Thank goodness for Covanta and their process of clean burning to energy.

DTT of our time... hope so.....
 

May want to research current thoughts on DDT and forget the slogans and songs of the 1970's. Facts are DDT may have been one of the biggest mistakes to ban in the USA. It is less toxic than... wait for it. Caffeine, Tylenol, aspirin. DTT Lingers in blood - true, causes cancer - Nope, other bad stuff.... nope. Check science, not rumor or headlines. links below.

Biggest challenge for microplastics is testing. Most of the tools used are.... wait for it... plastic. EPA admits the goal is to figure out the best way to measure microplastics. (syringe, tubes, hoses, lids for glass jars, pens used by researchers, tables, chair etc....can contaminate research. Much is unknown so to say finding it is a crisis is slightly premature. We simply are just starting to find ways to measure it accurately..... Something to watch, yes. but like cyclamates, we may find out what we ban was better than what we permit now.... cyclamates are not as harmful as sucralose and the other sweeteners of the day - scroll down for chart showing risks of current sweeteners vs cyclamates... link below. feed what would be bath tubs full of something and you will find cancer and other reactions.. that was what led to cyclamate bans.... better if we had it today.

Reading and learning does not hurt....

ddt = How Poisonous is DDT? | American Council on Science and Health


cyclamates -
Health outcomes of non-nutritive sweeteners: analysis of the research landscape - PMC

(There is a pressing need to develop and standardize collection, extraction, quantification, and identification methods for micro/nanoplastics to improve reliability, consistency and comparability across studies.) Microplastics Research | US EPA

Yikes! I'm surprised mankind has survived this long.

I'm so glad Publix employees no longer ask, "paper or plastic". I like plastic bags and will continue using them. Just so glad my plasic bags do not wind up in landfills or oceans because Covanta takes care of that. I honestly don't care if plastics have another life through recycling. Burn the suckers.

So we agree---it's not THE BAG, it's THE PERSON

And how much were corn and wheat harvests down in the 1930's??????

I think, at this point, after reading post after post after post about how just about EVERYTHING we purchase in a grocery store is packed in plastic, we can all agree plastic is EVERYWHERE, not just in grocery stores.

No argument there :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Note to self.......paper condoms! That will work.

My naivete is part of what makes me adorable. 🫠

Thanks. I will check it out. But, I suspect that there may be a bit of bias in the information. Like getting medical advice from the guys selling street drugs. Might over build the hype and hide any flaws.

The Phoenix Open is the largest zero-waste sports event in the world. Everything is either re-used, recycled, re-purposed, composted, donated, or converted into energy. Waste Management is the company that handles it all.

Can't derail if there are no tracks. Free form is more stylistic
Oh! Cheese is good! 😋

Don't get banned. I and many others value your input. As for guns, I am exmilitary and a former gun owner, I know a bit about guns. If it is only target practice, a BB gun can serve. Just not the same thrill as a semiautomatic 9mm or 44mag.

????? Many many items at Costco are wrapped in plastic! Paper towels, toilet paper, baked goods, vegetables, meat, twin packs, etc. etc. Are we saving the environment by buying a BIGGER PLASTIC JUG of laundry detergent? Or shampoo? Ketchup? Mustard? My elderly eyes must be deceiving me. Each time I go to Costco, I see plastic everywhere. I guess I need to schedule an eye appointment.

Ocean Dumping was New York's primary method for disposing of its waste until as recently as 1992. The waste was simply dumped it into the ocean. At one point, as much as 80% of New York's garbage ended up out at sea.

and someone is worried about a plastic bag in the gulf of mexico.

Too late. In the interest of transparency, I’ve been ‘warned’ by the moderator. I don’t agree with the action but like most forums I suspect, there is little one can do about it. I have seen some ‘interesting’ posts on TOTV by multiple authors who have truly gone out of their way to ‘insult’ the individual(s) whom they have disagreements with......I don’t believe that is the case here. In fact, I pride myself on being creative, original and self deprecating at times.....always without any malice. I guess it’s just one of those things like the lady said “methinks doth protest too much”

Gotta chuckle they want to control plastic bags that carry home your plastic butter tubs, ketchup bottles, spaghetti sauce, mustard, milk bottles, pill bottles, bacon wrappers, self-service meat items, and hundreds of other products in plastic containers. Sounds like another opportunity for a Biden tax based on usage!

bags
 

yes,live in de and read your post's...no plastic in De bring reusable bags with you ...no peoblem up here.

"Out of sight, out of mind." Up until recently trash was hidden. Dumped in the ocean, lakes, ravines, mountain valleys, landfills and buried. We couldn't see it, so it didn't exist. But, like a bear in the forest that disappeared behind a tree, it is still there, and just because you don't see it doest mean the danger doesn't exist. Plastic has made our lives easier and more convenient. But the long-term cost is rearing its ugly head. We can't hide it forever.

Your obvious political shot at Biden is inaccurate. We already pay taxes on things we use. The more you use, the more you pay.
As for plastic bottles, jars, etc, milk, ketchup, sauces and more came in glass. Butter came in paper and cardboard. Same for bacon. Spaghetti still comes in a cardboard box, thank goodness. There are many things plastic does very well, but it is not always the best option.

Wow, this is really good information. Thanks for posting it. I was kind of wondering why The villages didn't recycle.

Plastic and garbage
 

Look at how much plastic is in your own reusable bag. Everything is wrapped in plastic. Your car is now plastic. Everything is plastic. Try this at home. Weigh your filled grocery bags and then weigh your garbage bags and see how much garbage you are paying for and throwing out. to a land fill.

What about plastic packaging? Can we ban meats wrapped in plastic? Maybe wrap them in reusable cloths or paper?

Wait. How did we get to plastic bags. Oh yea it was the same environmentalist that said we were killing all the trees and that was killing the air and the rainforest. Now their solution is the new problem.
Must have something to do with the global cooling, no global warming, no I mean climate change.
Just saying

lol. Unreal how many people posted such long responses to this topic. Thats good though. It shows nothing of more importance is on their mind.

Why are the food manufacturers allowed to use plastic packaging. The root of the problem. These companies should change there horrible ways of poisoning the manufactured food they produce.

And there is no country of origin label on any of that “trash” but environmental advocates just assume its origin is here in the US.

I am more concerned with plastic bottles that shed into liquids that are ingested. What was wrong with the old glass bottles?

Cost of manufacturing, weight, ease of breakage, potential to cause harm (cuts), and likely cost of materials.

EV Batteries
 

To produce a battery for your environmentally friendly Tesla the process of extracting lithium consumes significant amounts of water and energy, and lithium mining can pollute the air and water with chemicals and heavy metals. In addition, mining lithium can disrupt wildlife habitats and cause soil erosion, leading to long-term ecological damage. All the earth moving mining equipment runs on diesel fuel . Feb 24, 2023 and after driving your environmentally friendly Tesla until the battery needs replacement, then there is this ;
Disposal. Lithium-ion batteries contain metals such as cobalt, nickel, and manganese, which are toxic and can contaminate water supplies and ecosystems if they leach out of landfills. Additionally, fires in landfills or battery-recycling facilities have been attributed to inappropriate disposal of lithium-ion batteries ..
If you look at cradle to grave with these so called environmentally friendly Tesla’s , not so friendly.
Where do you think the electricity from your charging stations come from ? Research it .