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Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-04-2014 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 902737)
The mobile homes from the 70s were called "trailers" in the day.
They did have a "tongue" (hitch) and a set of wheels.
The hitch and wheels were only there for its trip from the factory to the site. They removed the hitch and wheels after it was set on blocks.
(sometimes also on a pad, as it was easier crawling under with a pad.)
Skirting was added, carports, sheds etc. It was not intended to be moved again.
There are still some of these there.
If kept dry and maintained they will out last our grandchildren.
The 80s brought in the "modulars", (manufactured) single, double wides.
There are also "Pre-Fabs" there. Several sections are assembled to form the house.

That is absolutely correct. But, there are not just some of these here. This is describes the vast majority of these homes. They are not intended to ever be moved again which is why the terms trailer and mobile home seem a bit absurd these days.
The other thing is that most of the homes on this side are double wides. They are brought in in two pieces and joined together after they have been set on the site. I've seen this happen several tiles where people have torn down their old home and put up a new manufactured home on the site. It;s actually a fascinating process to behold.

Halibut 07-04-2014 06:30 PM

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I'm not a member of the architectural committee (although I should be!), but a new manufactured model like this would, I think, be in keeping with the cosy feel of the historic neighborhoods. Not that Morse has any incentive to deviate from his established construction process, but I like looking at floor plans. It's a quirk.

dalecrenshaw 07-04-2014 06:35 PM

Trailer Homes from the 70's
 
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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 902737)
The mobile homes from the 70s were called "trailers" in the day.
They did have a "tongue" (hitch) and a set of wheels.
The hitch and wheels were only there for its trip from the factory to the site. They removed the hitch and wheels after it was set on blocks.
(sometimes also on a pad, as it was easier crawling under with a pad.)
Skirting was added, carports, sheds etc. It was not intended to be moved again.
There are still some of these there.
If kept dry and maintained they will out last our grandchildren.
The 80s brought in the "modulars", (manufactured) single, double wides.
There are also "Pre-Fabs" there. Several sections are assembled to form the house.

My folks retired to the Villages and bought a manufactured house in what was the Historic side of the Villages (and that was the "only area" in what is the Villages at the time.) The other side didn't exist. The founder of the Villages, Harold Shwartz" was a neighbor and lived in the historic area in a manufactured home. My parents were among the first 500 homes...and that was in 1984. So, I don't think there could be very many, or any, "trailers" from the 70's. A slight exaggeration.

CFrance 07-04-2014 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 902800)
I'm not a member of the architectural committee (although I should be!), but a new manufactured model like this would, I think, be in keeping with the cosy feel of the historic neighborhoods. Not that Morse has any incentive to deviate from his established construction process, but I like looking at floor plans. It's a quirk.

Love that!:pepper2::pepper2:

NoMoSno 07-04-2014 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dalecrenshaw (Post 902803)
My folks retired to the Villages and bought a manufactured house in what was the Historic side of the Villages (and that was the "only area" in what is the Villages at the time.) The other side didn't exist. The founder of the Villages, Harold Shwartz" was a neighbor and lived in the historic area in a manufactured home. My parents were among the first 500 homes...and that was in 1984. So, I don't think there could be very many, or any, "trailers" from the 70's. A slight exaggeration.

Orange Blossom was built beginning in the early 70s

History

Harold Schwartz, a Michigan businessman, began selling land tracts via mail order in The Villages area in the 1960s. He and his business partner Al Tarrson were put out of business by a 1968 Federal law that banned mail order sales of real estate.[8]

Stuck with considerable portions of Florida land, in the early 1970s Schwartz and Tarrson began development of a mobile home park, Orange Blossom Gardens, in the northwestern corner of Lake County. By the early 1980s, the community had sold only 400 units. Trying to improve the business, Schwartz decided to buy out Tarrson's interest and bring his son, H. Gary Morse, on board in 1983.

Morse noted that the successful retirement communities (such as Del Webb's Sun City developments) offered numerous well-maintained amenities to the residents. They also had diverse and nearby commercial development. Morse began to significantly upgrade the development. Their sales improved in the mid-1980s. Schwartz began to buy large tracts of land in nearby Sumter and Marion counties for future expansion. In 1992 Morse officially changed the overall development name to The Villages. The development is still controlled in all major aspects by descendants of Schwartz and Morse.

The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your parents may have been pioneers, but it started 10 yrs. before they got there.

Halibut 07-04-2014 06:53 PM

It's very difficult to get insurance for manufactured homes built before 1976 when stricter HUD standards were put in place. That's the first thing the insurance companies asked us. Additional standards were instituted in 1994, when new wind zone design standards were mandated.

The name was officially changed from "mobile home" to "manufactured home" in 1980, but who pays attention to that? Plenty of "mobile estate" communities in Florida. :)

Source: Probably more than you wanted to know.

njbchbum 07-04-2014 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 902810)
It's very difficult to get insurance for manufactured homes built before 1976 when stricter HUD standards were put in place. That's the first thing the insurance companies asked us. Additional standards were instituted in 1994, when new wind zone design standards were mandated.

The name was officially changed from "mobile home" to "manufactured home" in 1980, but who pays attention to that? Plenty of "mobile estate" communities in Florida. :)

Source: Probably more than you wanted to know.

Since most of our homes in the historic neighborhoods were established after 1976, most of us have had no problem securing insurance as long as the tie-down system is up to date with current requirements.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-05-2014 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 902808)
Orange Blossom was built beginning in the early 70s

History

Harold Schwartz, a Michigan businessman, began selling land tracts via mail order in The Villages area in the 1960s. He and his business partner Al Tarrson were put out of business by a 1968 Federal law that banned mail order sales of real estate.[8]

Stuck with considerable portions of Florida land, in the early 1970s Schwartz and Tarrson began development of a mobile home park, Orange Blossom Gardens, in the northwestern corner of Lake County. By the early 1980s, the community had sold only 400 units. Trying to improve the business, Schwartz decided to buy out Tarrson's interest and bring his son, H. Gary Morse, on board in 1983.

Morse noted that the successful retirement communities (such as Del Webb's Sun City developments) offered numerous well-maintained amenities to the residents. They also had diverse and nearby commercial development. Morse began to significantly upgrade the development. Their sales improved in the mid-1980s. Schwartz began to buy large tracts of land in nearby Sumter and Marion counties for future expansion. In 1992 Morse officially changed the overall development name to The Villages. The development is still controlled in all major aspects by descendants of Schwartz and Morse.

The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your parents may have been pioneers, but it started 10 yrs. before they got there.

So between 1970 and 1980 400 manufactured homes were sold. If I recall correctly, there are about 7,000 homes over here. Assuming that some of those original 400 were sold after 1974 maybe 200 are pre 1974. Who knows how many of those have been torn down and replaced.

Lady L_Commissioner_Ward4 07-05-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 902937)
So between 1970 and 1980 400 manufactured homes were sold. If I recall correctly, there are about 7,000 homes over here. Assuming that some of those original 400 were sold after 1974 maybe 200 are pre 1974. Who knows how many of those have been torn down and replaced.



NoMoSno, great History, allow me to add some known facts;
When Mr. Schwartz was building in what we now called "The Enclaves" it was taking him forever to get permits from Lake County, as all the Enclaves are in the County. He then approached The Town of lady Lake Building department and asked if he were to annex his future parcels, and offer to existing homeowners to come into the Town of Lady Lake also, how long would it take to get a permit, the reply was 48 hours! At that point, all his homes In Lake county, and now in the Town of Lady Lake,
Today there approximately 750 homes in the Enclaves. (Lake County)

justjim 07-05-2014 12:03 PM

I was told by a sales person who had been selling for over 30 years that there were 4,000 manufacture homes in TV on the Historical side of The Villages. It's great what is now taking place there. Most residents really have taken care of their property and many have already upgraded their homes.

TVMayor 07-05-2014 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady L_Commissioner_Ward4 (Post 902150)
Not rumors, The Villages of Lake-Sumter has bought, and has requested 30 permits from the Town of Lady Lake for demolition.
Some of the parcels are in the County( The Enclaves) and they would get permits from them.
This is good for all home evaluations in LadyLake/The Villages & The Enclaves. Thank you Mr. Morse

I can not find the answer so I will repeat the question already asked, “So, what is the plan besides the demolition, Mr. Hannan, sir”?

njbchbum 07-05-2014 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Lady L_Commissioner_Ward4 (Post 902988)
NoMoSno, great History, allow me to add some known facts;
When Mr. Schwartz was building in what we now called "The Enclaves" it was taking him forever to get permits from Lake County, as all the Enclaves are in the County. He then approached The Town of lady Lake Building department and asked if he were to annex his future parcels, and offer to existing homeowners to come into the Town of Lady Lake also, how long would it take to get a permit, the reply was 48 hours! At that point, all his homes In Lake county, and now in the Town of Lady Lake,
Today there approximately 750 homes in the Enclaves. (Lake County)

What are the 'boundaries' of the area referred to as 'The Enclaves'?

Schaumburger 07-05-2014 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 903029)
I was told by a sales person who had been selling for over 30 years that there were 4,000 manufacture homes in TV on the Historical side of The Villages. It's great what is now taking place there. Most residents really have taken care of their property and many have already upgraded their homes.

I am currently renting a home in the Village of Silver Lake. It is adorable; it has been totally updated. I would buy this home in a heartbeat. Today I went to an open house in Country Club Hills which was for a very attractive home that has been updated. And I love the mature landscaping in this part of The Villages.

mrfixit 07-05-2014 11:49 PM

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2BNTV 07-05-2014 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 903268)
I am currently renting a home in the Village of Silver Lake. It is adorable; it has been totally updated. I would buy this home in a heartbeat. Today I went to an open house in Country Club Hills which was for a very attractive home that has been updated. And I love the mature landscaping in this part of The Villages.

Did you bring your checkbook? :D


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