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Halibut 07-06-2014 10:53 AM

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There's no question that Mr Morse knows how to sell real estate, make a lot of money and keep people happy. I'm just trying to figure what he's trying to do. Like I said, it will be interesting and I'm sure it will be good.
I'm not so convinced about "good," but then, I tend not to like the stick-built houses (eg., the stucco ones by the Boone gate and at the top of the hill before the roundabout) because I think they look all sorts of out of place.

Why not a shiny, rah-rah article in The Sun talking about the great plans for revitalizing? I'm neutral about the Morse family in general -- don't know them -- but confess I don't understand their desire for secrecy or why they prefer to operate like the Wizard behind the curtain.

CFrance 07-06-2014 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 903428)
I'm not so convinced about "good," but then, I tend not to like the stick-built houses (eg., the stucco ones by the Boone gate and at the top of the hill before the roundabout) because I think they look all sorts of out of place.

Why not a shiny, rah-rah article in The Sun talking about the great plans for revitalizing? I'm neutral about the Morse family in general -- don't know them -- but confess I don't understand their desire for secrecy or why they prefer to operate like the Wizard behind the curtain.

Hear, hear.

perrjojo 07-06-2014 11:59 AM

Why the secrecy? Cuz they don't want anyone throwing up road blocks before they accomplish their goal. Makes sense to me. I mean the Coke formula is locked in a safe with multiple combinations. No successful business divulges their plan a head of time.

CFrance 07-06-2014 12:05 PM

So even the realtors knew what was going on. We have a ve$ted interest in TV. I think they could do us the courtesy of not having us be the last ones to know what's in the works.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-06-2014 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Halibut (Post 903428)
I'm not so convinced about "good," but then, I tend not to like the stick-built houses (eg., the stucco ones by the Boone gate and at the top of the hill before the roundabout) because I think they look all sorts of out of place.

Why not a shiny, rah-rah article in The Sun talking about the great plans for revitalizing? I'm neutral about the Morse family in general -- don't know them -- but confess I don't understand their desire for secrecy or why they prefer to operate like the Wizard behind the curtain.

I think the site built homes look great and they fit right in to most neighborhoods. if you look around you'll see some newer manufactured homes that look every bit as good as some of the site built homes. Do you not like those either?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-06-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by denise adams (Post 903420)
Personally I loved the explanation by someone of "trailers" vs "manufactured" homes. While in MIchigan (23 years) I lived near a factory that built two piece homes, delivered them, set them up and wham bam you have a home. They were called "manufactured" homes. Near there was another plant that built "metal siding" homes called "trailers". Same thing, built, delivered, set up.
Most "trailers" or whatever we choose to call them seem to have vertically placed metal siding whereas manufactured homes had aluminum or vinyl siding placed horizontally. To me, the manufactured homes were very well built due in fact to being built/assembled inside rather than outside where quality is sometimes sacrificed due to -20 degree whether. My husband placed a lot of telephone wiring in site built homes and apartments and was often told to "hurry up so we can hide the defects in the studs/walls, etc.
Remember rock throwers, this is my opinion only and opinions can't be wrong

I don't think that they were ever actually called trailers. mobile home was the correct term and that has been updated (correctly in my opinion) to manufactured home. A trailer is something that you pull behind your car when you go camping.
True some of the early developments were referred to as "trailer parks" but I think that was somewhat of a derogatory term. They should have been called mobile home parks or mobile home communities.

njbchbum 07-06-2014 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 903476)
I don't think that they were ever actually called trailers. mobile home was the correct term and that has been updated (correctly in my opinion) to manufactured home. A trailer is something that you pull behind your car when you go camping.
True some of the early developments were referred to as "trailer parks" but I think that was somewhat of a derogatory term. They should have been called mobile home parks or mobile home communities.

Doc - I do believe that back in the 60s the structures WERE trailers. I can recall riding to FL many times as a child and saw with my own eyes the homes that sat on wheels in many a trailer park community on the back roads where we drove thru the Carolina pines where workers collected sap n buckets from the trees and along RT 301 in FL. Those structures did have vertical siding as was described; and those who had more $$ than others chose to skirt their homes rather than leave the undercarriage exposed as some did.

Your opinions are always appreciated, but not when they attempt to distort or contradict what others have actually experienced. Up until 10/15 years ago we could still find trailer parks out in the woodlands of PA! They were placed there for tourists and have now pretty much been replaced by the big bucks rolling motor homes of subsequent generations of tourists!

bkcunningham1 07-06-2014 01:45 PM

Way off topic, but: What is the difference between a trailer, mobile home and manufactured home?


Often people use the terms trailer, mobile home and manufactured home interchangeably, but there are huge differences between them.

The terms "trailer home" and trailer park are generally wording from the forties and fifties in the US. There was a perception that the residents were poor and undereducated, however, some of the original trailers were actually summer homes in resort areas.

The term"mobile home" came into popularity during the late 1950’s and 1960’s, but continues to this day. Although they were manufactured with wheels, which offered a means of transport, these homes became more of a permanent fixture once they were set on a lot. They were either single wide or doublewide mobile homes and became popular with retirees, who often used them as second homes. Large mobile home communities were developed in warm weather states like Arizona and Florida as seniors flocked there. Mobile homes became better built, larger and more efficient as time went on. They were also an affordable type of housing for many families. By 1970, these homes were built to voluntary industry standards that were eventually enforced by 45 of the 48 contiguous states. But, there was a call in the early 1970’s for better, more uniform standards, and in 1974 the HUD code went into effect.

By an act of Congress in 1974, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) was designated as the government agency to oversee the Federal Manufactured Housing Program. There is an actual department in HUD to oversee the program and that department is called the Office of Regulatory Affairs and Manufactured Housing. Most states also have an agency within the state that administers the HUD program. From that time forward the term mobile home changed to "manufactured home", because the dwellings are now manufactured to HUD standards. They are usually transported to the end location in one or more sections on a permanent chassis. Although the term mobile home still persists, the manufacturers are trying very hard to change the term and to make consumers aware of the differences between a mobile home and a manufactured home. The differences include such things as safety, quality standards and luxury.


Also, HUD- Manufactured Housing and Standards


What is a manufactured home?

A manufactured home (formerly known as a mobile home) is built to the Manufactured Home Construction and Safety Standards (HUD Code) and displays a red certification label on the exterior of each transportable section. Manufactured homes are built in the controlled environment of a manufacturing plant and are transported in one or more sections on a permanent chassis.

What is the difference between manufactured and modular homes?Manufactured homes are constructed according to a code administered by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD Code). The HUD Code, unlike conventional building codes, requires manufactured homes to be constructed on a permanent chassis. Modular homes are constructed to the same state, local or regional building codes as site-built homes. Other types of systems-built homes include panelized wall systems, log homes, structural insulated panels, and insulating concrete forms.

perrjojo 07-06-2014 01:57 PM

Trailer home, manufactured home, modular home. They all share one thing in common. THEY ARE A HOME.

kstew43 07-06-2014 04:00 PM

900 Bowersox Dr, Lady Lake, FL 32159 home plus 20 Acres

Sold: $2,850,000
Sold on 05/09/14



Looked at a home on west schwartz 3 months ago for $77, when I did that I noticed this acreage directly behind w schwartz....

Closed but not recorded on Lake County site as of yet so can't tell who bought it...but....

I can only imagine who might have bought that and what they will do with the land.... only speculating, but if I were the villages I would of jumped on the 20 acres...

You just never know....

graciegirl 07-06-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 903566)
900 Bowersox Dr, Lady Lake, FL 32159 home plus 20 Acres

Sold: $2,850,000
Sold on 05/09/14


Looked at a home on west schwartz 3 months ago for $77, when I did that I noticed this acreage directly behind w schwartz....

Closed but not recorded on Lake County site as of yet so can't tell who bought it...but....

I can only imagine who might have bought that and what they will do with the land.... only speculating, but if I were the villages I would of jumped on the 20 acres...

You just never know....

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bkcunningham1 07-06-2014 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 903566)
900 Bowersox Dr, Lady Lake, FL 32159 home plus 20 Acres

Sold: $2,850,000
Sold on 05/09/14



Looked at a home on west schwartz 3 months ago for $77, when I did that I noticed this acreage directly behind w schwartz....

Closed but not recorded on Lake County site as of yet so can't tell who bought it...but....

I can only imagine who might have bought that and what they will do with the land.... only speculating, but if I were the villages I would of jumped on the 20 acres...

You just never know....

I think that might be Mr. Ron Brown's property. The feud may be over.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 07-06-2014 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kstew43 (Post 903566)
900 Bowersox Dr, Lady Lake, FL 32159 home plus 20 Acres

Sold: $2,850,000
Sold on 05/09/14



Looked at a home on west schwartz 3 months ago for $77, when I did that I noticed this acreage directly behind w schwartz....

Closed but not recorded on Lake County site as of yet so can't tell who bought it...but....

I can only imagine who might have bought that and what they will do with the land.... only speculating, but if I were the villages I would of jumped on the 20 acres...

You just never know....

There's something wrong with this listing. There is a lot of acreage behind West Schwartz, but Bowersox is for lack of a better term, landlocked. It runs from West Schwartz to West Schwartz. There is no open land behind it.

Jayhawk 07-06-2014 04:17 PM

Sold for 2.3 times the estimated value (Zillow.com)

900 Bowersox Dr, Lady Lake, FL 32159
4 beds, 3 baths, 5,719 sqft
Sold: $2,850,000
Sold on 05/09/14
Zestimate®: $1,239,844

bkcunningham1 07-06-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 903577)
There's something wrong with this listing. There is a lot of acreage behind West Schwartz, but Bowersox is for lack of a better term, landlocked. It runs from West Schwartz to West Schwartz. There is no open land behind it.

That address is the open lot at the end of the one end of Bowersox that goes to Mr. Brown's property. It is a Bowersox address since Bowersox, on a map, would come straight across Schwartz there. If you know the area, you will know exactly where I'm talking about.


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