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Cedwards38 04-12-2013 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 657307)
Maybe that is why the IRS is investigating. No one can figure it out?

I'll bet they are well paid for trying though! :laugh:

happy employee 04-12-2013 02:04 PM

T&D Family of companies
 
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Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 657061)
T&D Pool-Retail / Service / Installation
T&D Concrete

NOT owned by The villages

Mack184 04-12-2013 02:33 PM

There's ownership and there's "ownership". I wouldn't be surprised at all if Morse & family had minority investment interests in any number of businesses operating within TV. In fact, it would make very good sense.

B767drvr 04-12-2013 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kimball (Post 657916)
We all know they are filthy rich. Why should we be concerned about just how much of our day to day lives they control through their many holdings?

You know... I'm completely surprised and actually blown away by the "hit piece" Graciegirl posted. In all fairness, I've never met the lady, but have previously enjoyed her posts.

I'm actually quite shocked she started a thread (and added to it).

In my humble opinion, folks like the Morse's are few and far between. I'm only 49, but someday hope we'll choose The Villages for retirement.

Again, in my opinion, the Morse's are complete visionaries and deserve ALL the financial rewards that come their way.

Mack184 04-12-2013 06:13 PM

G-Person doesn't need me to stand up for her, but where in God's name did you get the idea that Gracie's post is some sort of "drive-by" hit? All she was doing was talking about just what all does Morse Industries own? I don't see anything about it as a "hit". Actually I think it's sort of fun to try and come up with a list of just what's on the Morse family's "Monopoly Board". There's no malice there.

B767drvr 04-12-2013 07:29 PM

Whenever a thread is started with, "Hey everyone, let's figure out all the holdings and financial interests of the people that started this development..." The Morse's developed the Villages legally, and with great vision.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I just don't get why she would want to compliment the developer (Morse's) with such a thread and in such a way? If Gracie loved the Morse's, why not just say so and leave well enough alone?

B767drvr 04-12-2013 07:43 PM

These Master Planned Communities thrive because the builder has vision and is legally allowed to create it. Thank GOD for people like the Morse's! Without them the "Villages" would be little more than swamp land.

I simply do not understand people that come in way after the fact and lob insults via (gee everyone, wonder how much the developer owns?)

Do your homework BEFORE purchasing and enjoy your life. Why would a happily retired person give a rat's fanny what the Morse's own? How could that possibly impact their life?

Mack184 04-12-2013 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 658349)
These Master Planned Communities thrive because the builder has vision and is legally allowed to create it. Thank GOD for people like the Morse's! Without them the "Villages" would be little more than swamp land.

I simply do not understand people that come in way after the fact and lob insults via (gee everyone, wonder how much the developer owns?)

Do your homework BEFORE purchasing and enjoy your life. Why would a happily retired person give a rat's fanny what the Morse's own? How could that possibly impact their life?

You have 6 posts, Gracie has a gazillion. I know how she feels about the Morse family. Are you are wrong on this one. Let it drop.

villagerjack 04-12-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 657196)
Heck I don't know. I am a girl from Ohio. I know this, that when the country was walking around in the financial doldrums, we weren't having the same trouble here in TV. Building ten percent of the homes in the entire country in this dinky little poor inland county. People were furnishing them and spending money and keeping the economy going here.

Somethng was done correctly. AND as we can see on this forum, people can jump frequently to illogical decisions. I CRINGE to think of this place being run by the residents.

Now let me see. A performing arts center, ten indoor pools, five new dog parks. a staff of people at the squares that keep folks from saving seats.More softball fields, separate roads for bike riding running, golf carts and cars.... All good things...but sometimes we can't have all of the fancy things we want and pay the bill. I don't care how much the Morse bunch has made. They deserve every penny of it.

Selfishly. I am gonna enjoy it all and hope it doesn't get ruined before I die.

Agree completely Gracie.

graciegirl 04-12-2013 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 658344)
Whenever a thread is started with, "Hey everyone, let's figure out all the holdings and financial interests of the people that started this development..." The Morse's developed the Villages legally, and with great vision.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I just don't get why she would want to compliment the developer (Morse's) with such a thread and in such a way? If Gracie loved the Morse's, why not just say so and leave well enough alone?

I started it to try to show what someone who works hard and has a good plan can accomplish.

I don't know the Morses but I think they have done such a good thing that this remarkable place will be held in awe for generations to come.

They built a beautiful. clean place, filled with flowers and trees and bushes and water and vast lovely green golf courses and roads to drive on and invited older, smart, sassy, incredibly interesting people to live here.

They have turned what might have been wasted years into increbibly full years and have given many of us a dream we could never have dreamed.

Before I die, I have a huge wish to shake Mr. Gary Morse's hand.

You are wrong my young friend. On this one anyway. There is nothing to hide or be ashamed of that one family has created a successful business in so many ways and by example showed us all how it could be done. Little by little they seem to turn over much of what they have created to be bought and run by others.

It all seems good to me.

B767drvr 04-12-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 658369)
You have 6 posts, Gracie has a gazillion. I know how she feels about the Morse family. Are you are wrong on this one. Let it drop.

OK.. I'll back off. Can't imagine why Gracie would start such a thread? Perhaps she'll explain why?

I'm glad the american spirit and laws allow such people as the Morse's to create such great places as the Villages. I suppose there will always be those who question their authority...

graciegirl 04-12-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 658404)
I started it to try to show what someone who works hard and has a good plan can accomplish.

I don't know the Morses but I think they have done such a good thing that this remarkable place will be held in awe for generations to come.

They built a beautiful clean place, filled with flowers and trees and bushes and water and vast lovely green golf courses and roads to drive on and invited older, smart, sassy, incredibly interesting people to live here.

They have turned what might have been wasted years into increbibly full years and have given many of us a dream we could never have thought to dream

Before I die, I have a huge wish to shake Mr. Gary Morse's hand.

You are wrong my young friend. On this one anyway. There is nothing to hide or be ashamed of that one family has created a successful business in so many ways and by example showed us all how it could be done. Little by little they seem to turn over much of what they have created to be bought and run by others.

It all seems good to me.


If you had waited a few seconds....

ilovetv 04-12-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 658407)
OK.. I'll back off. Can't imagine why Gracie would start such a thread? Perhaps she'll explain why?

I'm glad the american spirit and laws allow such people as the Morse's to create such great places as the Villages. I suppose there will always be those who question their authority...

Maybe because the Morses have nothing to hide.

B767drvr 04-12-2013 09:07 PM

I'll let my discomfort with this thread die with the thought... I hope Gracie never compliments me! Yikes... what a back-handed compliment... question the extent of the developer's holdings and somehow claim that as a positive post? Must have worked in Washington...

graciegirl 04-12-2013 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 658418)
I'll let my discomfort with this thread die with the thought... I hope Gracie never compliments me! Yikes... what a back-handed compliment... question the extent of the developer's holdings and somehow claim that as a positive post? Must have worked in Washington...

I don't view wealth or business success as a negative.

B767drvr 04-12-2013 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 658422)
I don't view wealth or business success as a negative.

Ok I give, what was your purpose in starting this thread then?

ilovetv 04-12-2013 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 658425)
Ok I give, what was your purpose in starting this thread then?

Let me guess first:

ADMIRATION.

perrjojo 04-12-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 658425)
Ok I give, what was your purpose in starting this thread then?

Maybe she did it to give you something to post about. :a20: maybe it was something to make you engage your brain. Oh heck, I forget what the post was even about by now!

B767drvr 04-12-2013 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 658426)
Let me guess first:

ADMIRATION.

In .21 seconds Google would have given Gracie those results. Why start the thread?

CFrance 04-12-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 658418)
I'll let my discomfort with this thread die with the thought... I hope Gracie never compliments me! Yikes... what a back-handed compliment... question the extent of the developer's holdings and somehow claim that as a positive post? Must have worked in Washington...

Seriously, you have so completely misunderstood the purpose of Gracie's post. And Gracie herself.

It's a good idea to lurk here awhile and get a feeling for the different posters' personalities before taking off on any of them. Find out which ones are humorous, totally serious, sarcastic, bombastic, subtle, without guile, menacing, etc, and combinations thereof.

And PLEASE don't say anything about dog poop or roundabouts.:pray:

mrdarcy 04-12-2013 09:40 PM

Why start the thread?
 
...because it's of interest to those of us who greatly appreciate what the Morse family has created. All the better too that thousands benefit from the risks the Morses took to realize a unique vision they had --we who live here, those who work here, the economies of the surrounding communities, and yes, of course, the Morses themselves.

CFrance 04-12-2013 09:48 PM

Where the heck did the Report Post button go? I can't find it. Admin?

B767drvr 04-12-2013 10:04 PM

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Bonny 04-12-2013 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 658437)
A lot of people fail at direct communication. Many think they are "cute' or magical or whatever. The fact is they've FAILED. If they want to believe they start a thread questioning the holdings of the developer, and somehow that will turn into positive accolades for the many hundreds of millions of dollars of wealth the Morse's have created then good for you. Congrats Gracie, you have a whacked sense of humor and have forever lost a fan.

I have lived here 13 years & what a wonderful place to live !! Thank you to the Morse family for our wonderful life in retirement in the incredible Villages, oh, by the way, I'm from Michigan & spent many years vacationing on Torch Lake & going to Brownwood.
Gracie's post was in jest & just being fun to think how this all started & how it has become such a wonderful place. The vision of the Morse family and what they have created, we all admire !!!

B767drvr 04-12-2013 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 658461)
I have lived here 13 years & what a wonderful place to live !! Thank you to the Morse family for our wonderful life in retirement in the incredible Villages, oh, by the way, I'm from Michigan & spent many years vacationing on Torch Lake & going to Brownwood.
Gracie's post was in jest & just being fun to think how this all started & how it has become such a wonderful place. The vision of the Morse family and what they have created, we all admire !!!

Wow! That seems easy enough to politely explain. Thanks Bonny.

I wonder why Gracie was unable?

I guess I have a problem with "jokes" in jest... another one pointed at the developer. I just wonder why we're now better off AFTER Gracie's post about this subject?

CFrance 04-12-2013 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 658463)
Wow! That seems easy enough to politely explain. Thanks Bonny.

I wonder why Gracie was unable?

I guess I have a problem with "jokes" in jest... another one pointed at the developer. I just wonder why we're now better off AFTER Gracie's post about this subject?

I do not think Gracie's post was in jest at all. I think it was totally serious. But I also don't think it was a slam on the developer. I can't see how anyone would read anything negative into her question.

Bonny 04-12-2013 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 658465)
I do not think Gracie's post was in jest at all. I think it was totally serious. But I also don't think it was a slam on the developer. I can't see how anyone would read anything negative into her question.

It was definitely NOT negative. Gracie is not that type of person !! What ever the Morse family owns is great. They worked hard creating this great place & deserve everything they have & I'm happy to contribute !!!

Bonny 04-12-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by B767drvr (Post 658463)
Wow! That seems easy enough to politely explain. Thanks Bonny.

I wonder why Gracie was unable?

I guess I have a problem with "jokes" in jest... another one pointed at the developer. I just wonder why we're now better off AFTER Gracie's post about this subject?

When I say "in jest", that certainly didn't mean a joke. A lot of us really admire what the Morse family has created & just find it interesting how the Villages all came about & all the great things & companies they have created.

B767drvr 04-12-2013 10:52 PM

<<It is no secret that The Villages IS the Morse family. But someone help me list all of the entities they own or have recently owned and sold to others.
>>


Please dear baby Jesus... why would any sane person care what all someone else owned if they didn't somehow covet them or wish them ill? Just curious why Gracie would be so "desperate" to know what the Morse's owned? Weird and sad...

CFrance 04-12-2013 10:58 PM

Bonny, give up. I am...

Moderator 04-13-2013 06:33 AM

OK, enough of the personal back and forth. Let's get back on topic.


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