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I have an M1 tank to rent for special occasions on roundabouts.
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The law is both lanes clear to the left.
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I've heard people say that they never enter a round about if there is another car in it. This is basically what the gate attendant said to me and I find this idea to be totally absurd. How far to the left is considered clear? On some round abouts you can see all the way across. If you're a six o'clock and a car enters at twelve o'clock are you supposed to wait until they have passed? As far as I'm concerned, when a car is at nine o"clock and I'm at six o'clock, the lane is clear. If we were on a straight road, I'd be able to move into that lane. |
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Navigating Roundabouts • Move up to the entrance line and wait for a gap in traffic. DO NOT ENTER next to a vehicle in the roundabout, as that vehicle may be exiting at the next exit It also explicitly states do not change lanes in a roundabout. Given those two statements the means the car that was in the roundabout and in the left lane has the right to make a right hand turn in front of you from the left lane since you were to yield to that person before entry and not overtake that person while the person in the left lane was to not switch out of the left lane once in the roundabout. The misunderstanding of "you can not make a right turn from the left lane" is the number one cause of accidents in roundabouts. Another TOTV thread starts with good intentions supported with visual aides goes astray due to posters not reading the original post. Then the old tell a secret and pass it down the line game starts and original intent gets lost. With respect did you read the guide and are saying it is wrong ? |
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Over complicating a bit imo, Doc. Just yield to both lanes in the roundabout. If a car is close enough in either lane in the circle to cause a potential conflict, wait.
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WHY do people insist, when they are in the inside lane and exiting, to change lanes before they leave the roundabout. It seems to be because they want to get in the resident lane at the gate. 1...there is no need to do this...2. Never change lanes in a round about. Almost everyone seems to do this...why? You are setting yourself up to cause an accident by being hit by those entering the round about. Stop it
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i beg of you cyclists:PLEASE get off the roads. in 1987 i was on my bicycle coming home from work. i was hit head on by a speeder, thrown 30ft & landed with my face on the curb. my whole face was smashed in. i was airlifted & spent 5 days on a respirator in a Hartford trauma unit. yes, i had a GREAT lawyer who won me lots of $$, but what good did that do? i've had 2 spinal fusions, massive facial reconstruction & replace all the teeth that were knocked out.
is your right to drive in the road really worth that much to you? i learned i am no match for a 2ton vehicle, the injuries i sustained are still being treated 2day. i cannot walk more than 100yards without pain. i can't sit or sleep in certain positions. cannot lift even a gallon of milk without having trigger injections to combat the spasms. the last thing i want to do is sound like i'm preaching, but pls., think about it 1st. |
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Let's say you are entering in the left hand lane and intending to go straight through or to the second exit depending on how you wan to look at it. As you pass the first exit, a car enters in the right hand lane and intends to go straight through or to his second exit. As you exit the round about it's possible, if the other driver is not paying attention that he can collide with the side of your car. I have to take the third exit at a specific round about, about twice a week. It seems that there is always someone entering at my second exit in the right hand lane. I am always looking at my mirror and have my right directional on well before the exit. Like I said, you can both be following the rules but a collision can happen if you're not paying attention. |
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If the vehicle that had entered next to you had waited for you to pass then you would have had time to exit in front of him without risking him hitting you. Of course, he would have needed to be paying attention. Also, the vehicle in the outside lane, the one that runs the risk of hitting you, is crossing a dashed line at the point you are exiting. Whenever you cross a dashed line you are responsible for ensuring it is safe to do so. But again, that would require the other driver to be paying attention. It is probably safest to assume the other guy is going to do something wrong. As you mention, the best thing to do is to pay attention. |
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I avoid the roads because I feel like my safety would be in the hands of the driver of every vehicle that would pass me. I want my safety in my hands to the greatest degree possible, and I feel like it’s much more that way when I stay on the MMP and ride with a basic set of rules to avoid conflicts with golf carts. |
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When I am driving thru a roundabout, other cars are not allowed to enter the roundabout. I always have my hand on the horn and I give a loud and long honk when I see another car starting to enter the roundabout. |
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Everything but turn signals
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Most people I see using them don’t use them properly.
So tell us how to use them properly. Turn signals are the norm in the UK. |
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My biggest hurdle was negotiating those that are either exiting the roundabout to my left or continuing through. Looks the same until they turn. When in doubt yield, don't guess because they just go shooting right through. When I'm spinning through I always watch others to see if they slow down before coming in. Just a habit of driving I picked up, watch the other car for anything that could happen. Back in Vegas one day I was behind a driver who signaled and he actually was halfway into his right turn going into another street and changed his mind and curved back out in front of me. If I would've sped up as he turned he would've hit me. I still had to brake though for that fool.
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I would appreciate it if someone plans to exit from a roundabout to use a tight turn signal if coming south so someone waiting to enter knows you are exiting. For example, if you are driving south on Buena Vista and plan to exit on Bailey Trail near Lake Miona, please signal so I know I can enter the roundabout.
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Will this Post end , if Traffic lights are installed?
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You must wait until I have made my turn. You must not enter the roundabout while I am driving in the roundabout. |
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Just takes basic courtesy.
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One quick note. People look down at the ground as you drive. There are arrows in each lane directing which lane you need to be in.
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Before you enter a roundabout, there is a sign that shows how you are allowed to drive. For example, if you are in the right lane, you cannot go 3/4 around the roundabout. If you are in the left lane, you cannot take the first right turn. Most of us know these rules and follow them. Of course, we cannot expect everyone to follow these rules. That is why I drive thru a roundabout slowly with my hand on the horn |
It should be noted that when in a roundabout, if you are crossing a line, solid or broken, you must yield to any vehicle following the lane they are in. In many occaisions people entering a roundabout in the right lane and continue past the 1st exit, crossing the broken line, fail to yield to the person in the inside lane following that lane into the exit that the person in the outside lane is bypassing. If the bikes were crossing that broken line, they failed to yield.
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Another tip: If you're going around beside another car, either go ahead of them (so you're more in their line of vision) or fall behind because you never know if they will make a wrong move like merging into your space. If you're behind at least you can see them and anticipate. I usually do this on normal roads too because drivers may suddenly move into their blind spots. Avoiding accidents can be an acquired skill.
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Now there are two round-a-bout threats open.:swear::22yikes::censored:
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I think we should drive clockwise every other month so my left tires get the same wear as my right tires.
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