Talk of The Villages Florida

Talk of The Villages Florida (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/)
-   The Villages, Florida, General Discussion (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/)
-   -   I don't mean to beat a dead horse, but are these prices of used homes for real. (https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/i-dont-mean-beat-dead-horse-but-these-prices-used-homes-real-328629/)

RPDaly 02-09-2022 08:58 PM

Many 2/2 Courtyard Villas esp. south of 466 are going for the high $300's lately! A 3/2 CV just went pending at around $700K in Amberjack.

RPDaly 02-09-2022 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2055063)
And as a bonus double taxes will be included with your home's new assessment.

The millage rate will be adjusted if assessments go up just as back North. - I hope

Pballer 02-10-2022 04:22 AM

Once the rampant speculation ends, and the collapse and taxpayer bailouts come, the Federal Reserve will once again say that no one could have possibly seen it coming, and its endless stream of cheap money was not at fault.

Pballer 02-10-2022 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RPDaly (Post 2059600)
The millage rate will be adjusted if assessments go up just as back North. - I hope

The shifting of the tax burden from Florida residents to snow birds will accelerate because the assessed value of a Florida resident's home can only increase by a maximum of 3 percent per year while the sky is the limit for a snow bird's home.

Laker14 02-10-2022 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2059632)
The shifting of the tax burden from Florida residents to snow birds will accelerate because the assessed value of a Florida resident's home can only increase by a maximum of 3 percent per year while the sky is the limit for a snow bird's home.

That depends upon your definition of "snowbird".. a resident of Florida can spend a lot of time out of state, and maintain their residency, and hence, get the benefit of homestead exemptions.

Pballer 02-10-2022 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2059634)
That depends upon your definition of "snowbird".. a resident of Florida can spend a lot of time out of state, and maintain their residency, and hence, get the benefit of homestead exemptions.

Change "snowbird" to "non-Florida resident". The big prize is not the homestead exemption: the big prize is that your assessed value cannot increase more than the CPI or 3 percent per year whichever is less.

Rainger99 02-10-2022 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2059632)
The shifting of the tax burden from Florida residents to snow birds will accelerate because the assessed value of a Florida resident's home can only increase by a maximum of 3 percent per year while the sky is the limit for a snow bird's home.

I thought that the increase in assessed value for non-residents is limited to 10%.

Non-Homestead Cap

vintageogauge 02-10-2022 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 2059634)
That depends upon your definition of "snowbird".. a resident of Florida can spend a lot of time out of state, and maintain their residency, and hence, get the benefit of homestead exemptions.

And they would then lose their exemption up north where taxes are generally much higher.

Rainger99 02-10-2022 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2059793)
And they would then lose their exemption up north where taxes are generally much higher.

They are much higher - no generally about it!!

Bilyclub 02-11-2022 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2059793)
And they would then lose their exemption up north where taxes are generally much higher.

In theory that's the way it's supposed to work, but I know a few who have gamed the system.

Laker14 02-12-2022 05:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pballer (Post 2059768)
Change "snowbird" to "non-Florida resident". The big prize is not the homestead exemption: the big prize is that your assessed value cannot increase more than the CPI or 3 percent per year whichever is less.

correct. We bought in 2021, and changed our residence in February of 2021 from NY to FL. As we tried to predict how our new home would affect our finances, I spent some time studying the way the tax assessments work.
Our previous owner (we bought a pre-owned home, build in 2006, from the original owner) had years of homestead control on the taxable assessment. I knew that would be reset with our purchase.

Fast-forward to late summer when I got the tax notice and I was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't higher. Then, I thought it through a bit further and realized that the assessment was done before we bought the house, and remembered that taxes are payed "in arrears", so the previous owner's assessment and homestead preferences applied for my first tax bill.
I will get the big hit with my next tax bill, when all of her years of homestead valuation go away, plus the effect of the recent run-up gets factored in. Really looking forward to that.

Normal 02-12-2022 08:35 AM

Prices are going up again. When you look at The Villages website now, designer homes averaging 1950 square feet are hovering at about 500 without a view. View lots on the Chitty Chatty, ponds, golf courses are jacked up to about 700. Turning to St. John’s and Richmond and the turnpike I’m getting the vibe of another 5% increase. I don’t see prices abating in the near future for sure.

Stu from NYC 02-12-2022 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2060258)
Prices are going up again. When you look at The Villages website now, designer homes averaging 1950 square feet are hovering at about 500 without a view. View lots on the Chitty Chatty, ponds, golf courses are jacked up to about 700. Turning to St. John’s and Richmond and the turnpike I’m getting the vibe of another 5% increase. I don’t see prices abating in the near future for sure.

You could well be right but at some point interest rates have to go up and that will not be a good thing for the real estate market. Besides no asset goes up forever without a correction at some point.

Normal 02-12-2022 02:49 PM

Interest rates can go up.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2060295)
You could well be right but at some point interest rates have to go up and that will not be a good thing for the real estate market. Besides no asset goes up forever without a correction at some point.

They may go up soon, but what is a 1/2 point when there is no inventory and many are contemplating paying cash anyway? It won’t effect anything around here.

manaboutown 02-12-2022 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2060295)
You could well be right but at some point interest rates have to go up and that will not be a good thing for the real estate market. Besides no asset goes up forever without a correction at some point.

The prime rate reached 21.5% on December 19, 1980. The rate of inflation is currently the highest it has been in 40 years and it is just getting started. Who know what the future holds.

Stu from NYC 02-12-2022 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2060419)
They may go up soon, but what is a 1/2 point when there is no inventory and many are contemplating paying cash anyway? It won’t effect anything around here.

If it only goes up 1/2 pt no big deal but if rates go up by several points than watch out.

Besides when a smaller designer house goes for a half million customer will be priced out of the market.

rustyp 02-12-2022 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2060295)
You could well be right but at some point interest rates have to go up and that will not be a good thing for the real estate market. Besides no asset goes up forever without a correction at some point.


It takes a while to blow up a balloon but when it punctures it deflates in a hurry.

Laker14 02-12-2022 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintageogauge (Post 2059793)
And they would then lose their exemption up north where taxes are generally much higher.

Not necessarily. In NY where I was a resident, and still own property, (but am not employed, nor do I own a business), the issue is how many days I spend in NY. More than 180 (or 181, I can't remember) and I have to pay taxes on my IRA withdrawals.
However, it is not tied at all to how many days I spend in my new state of Florida.
I can spend 5 months in NY, and 3 months somewhere else, and only 4 months in Florida, and still claim Florida residency for my homestead, and not pay NY income tax.

Hence, I would still be a "snowbird" and still get the advantages of homesteading, and not pay NY income tax.

Rainger99 05-13-2022 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbb (Post 2054250)
5746 Landon Ave, sold April 2021 346K listed at 697,500 now, they may have added a pool, but still a 101% increase in 9 months. The crazy thing about it is, that it will probably sell in 15 minutes.

It is listed at $649,000 today.

jrref 05-14-2022 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LianneMigiano (Post 2054695)
And then we had the bubble BURST and home prices dropped drastically. Wouldn't suggest that people buy in this market as an investment to flip with the previous market that happened....

I really don't think this will happen as dramatically as it's happened in the past Because everyone keeps forgetting about the Pandemic. Now many people close to retirement are able to work remotely so many are buying thier retirement homes, working then retiring in place. It's going to be a long time till this changes.

Also the developer is building like crazy. Whether i like them or not they know what they are doing so at least they don't believe the housing market will slow down any time soon.

In addition, many are selling their homes up north for over inflated prices then just using that money to buy homes here at the same over inflated prices. It's a property swap. We bought our Ivy last June at a price that i felt was way too much. None of my neighbors wanted the house for the same reason. But we bought it because it had a lot of upgrades and was perfect for us. It also has a view and that's another feature that causes the home to be sold at a crazy price. Now almost a year later, the price we paid in my opinion was a bargain! The house now is worth a couple hundred thousand more than we paid for it. Many of my neighbors who wanted to buy my house as a upgrade are kicking themselves.

Bilyclub 05-14-2022 12:01 PM

2 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2095289)
It is listed at $649,000 today.

Plus a $24,000 Bond. The Canadian owners must be getting a little nervous about the way things are going.

Timothyimitchell 05-17-2022 12:03 PM

I think the average resale price for a 2/2 patio villa is now well over 300K. Now that is ridiculous.

MrFlorida 05-17-2022 12:07 PM

Not only housing, look at the economy in general...everything is out of control.

Djean1981 05-17-2022 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 2096305)
I think the average resale price for a 2/2 patio villa is now well over 300K. Now that is ridiculous.

With vinyl siding..

Nucky 05-17-2022 12:31 PM

A friend of ours paid $650K for a nice house in Rhode Island about 25 months ago. Listed it for $999K. First day 8 offers. Final sale $1,170,000. It was a nice house but gimme a break. two Doctors started bidding against each other. This deal included no inspections and no contingencies. Cashish! Nuts!

Stu from NYC 05-17-2022 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2096310)
A friend of ours paid $650K for a nice house in Rhode Island about 25 months ago. Listed it for $999K. First day 8 offers. Final sale $1,170,000. It was a nice house but gimme a break. two Doctors started bidding against each other. This deal included no inspections and no contingencies. Cashish! Nuts!

Totally out of control but the day of reckoning is coming nothing goes up forever.

manaboutown 05-17-2022 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 2096310)
A friend of ours paid $650K for a nice house in Rhode Island about 25 months ago. Listed it for $999K. First day 8 offers. Final sale $1,170,000. It was a nice house but gimme a break. two Doctors started bidding against each other. This deal included no inspections and no contingencies. Cashish! Nuts!

Bet those two MDs had competitive histories, went head to head, and neither could stand the other getting the house! Your friend got lucky!

Timothyimitchell 05-17-2022 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 2096307)
Not only housing, look at the economy in general...everything is out of control.

Our poor grand kids. They have no idea.

Babubhat 05-17-2022 02:14 PM

Not for long. Everyday my neighborhood has more listings and no new sales. 2 sales didn’t close. Bet appraisal came up short

Madelaine Amee 05-17-2022 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothyimitchell (Post 2096339)
Our poor grandkids. They have no idea.

If your "poor grandkids" are educated and in the right business, they will earn more in a lifetime than you ever did. I have two granddaughters earning over six figures right now and they are not 25 yet.

davem4616 05-17-2022 02:34 PM

the only thing constant in life is change...

vintageogauge 05-17-2022 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Babubhat (Post 2096346)
Not for long. Everyday my neighborhood has more listings and no new sales. 2 sales didn’t close. Bet appraisal came up short

Wrong neighborhood, homes in our area are usually sold before the sign gets in the window and those that take a little longer either are on a bad lot or the owners are a little too greedy but they all eventually will sell.

MX rider 05-17-2022 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davem4616 (Post 2096351)
the only thing constant in life is change...

100%

Normal 05-17-2022 03:44 PM

Three went up on our street in April as spec homes. All were sold within minutes.

Normal 05-17-2022 04:21 PM

Unbelievable
 
1 Attachment(s)
Homefinder - The Villages(R) Homes and Villas for Sale




940 K…such a deal?

Not really

frose 05-17-2022 04:52 PM

once interest rates go over 8% the price of home will tank.. give it another 2 or 3 months..

MX rider 05-17-2022 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frose (Post 2096401)
once interest rates go over 8% the price of home will tank.. give it another 2 or 3 months..

I don't think the market will "tank" as you say. It will cool off. But there's still a supply problem with lots of demand.

I think prices will start leveling off a bit. They can't can't continue to go up.

Rainger99 05-17-2022 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2096396)

This one sold for $515,000 on December 17, 2020. But it is furnished!

ithos 05-18-2022 04:47 AM

Just like the last economic downturn, The Villages will still be one of the best locations to own of home regarding property value. And the demand now by retirees is even stronger.

Timothyimitchell 05-18-2022 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 2096349)
If your "poor grandkids" are educated and in the right business, they will earn more in a lifetime than you ever did. I have two granddaughters earning over six figures right now and they are not 25 yet.

Stay tuned.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:26 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.32 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2025 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.