Originally Posted by Nannyof3 (Post 1985058)

I've been here 12+ years and have only witnessed that type of behavior once or maybe twice. My experience is 95% of the people here are very nice, kind and generous .

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 1984812)

Boston

Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 1984808)

New York...LOL :blahblahblah:

Originally Posted by George Page (Post 1985077)

Sometimes the educated, sophisticated, and intelligent New Englanders lose patience with the Village idiots here and we come across as being rude.
I am fighting the urge.
But, I’m wondering …..
Do they teach 5th grade Geography where you come from?

NEW YORK is not a NEW ENGLAND state!!!

Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 1984801)

Sooo What city in the New England states can you guess where this rude person is from......LOL

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1984783)

Well, I "believe" that humans are herd animals - we live in groups/societies. And so, I believe that any form of antisocial behavior is a form of mental illness. I don't believe in EVIL, I believe in mental illness. Murder is mental illness to me. Theft, fighting, etc, etc.

So, I of agree with you, but I probably take it further than you do.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1984833)

You did take a leap there. I never said what should be done. I said I believe anti-social behavior is a form of mental illness. And anti-social behavior is contextual.

For example, someone breaks into your house and is attempting to kill your family, that is mental illness. If you kill them to prevent them from killing your family, that is not a mental illness.

We currently do not understand how the mind/brain works well enough to have effective treatments. In general mental health, today boils down to treating or suppressing symptoms - mostly.

But, as I said, I do not believe in "good and evil". I believe that some people are mentally ill, and others aren't. If what you do is for your personal benefit and not society, then I believe that is a form of mental illness.

And yes, I do not believe there is any evidence that jails/prisons do more good than harm. They sort of come down to expensive crime universities. Prisons are a fairly modern invention that has never worked well. They basically isolate mentally ill people from society "for a while".

Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1984803)

I had a minor in psychology. I still remember the introduction to a course in abnormal psychology. The prof stated as you read this you will think you have all these disorders and you do. It is a problem only when you can't control it and you either harm yourself or harm others.

I recall another study involving brain scans. A certain pattern indicated a mental disorder. The one doing the study, in a blind test selected out of whatever the number of scans it was those showing this problem. One of the ones he selected as clearly having this problem. WAS HIS.

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1984735)

I live in one of the villages where the roads are being resurfaced. This morning the crew re-surfaced with tar our road, it looks great and the job they did is excellent. I was in my garage when I heard a woman screaming at someone, so being slightly nosey I got up to look. A woman in a car was giving a young man hell because he would not let her through, she sat there yelling and screaming at him for some time and then finally took off and drove through to wherever she was headed.

I have lived here long enough to know that people are rude and I should be used to it, but I never get used to the ignorance often shown here in TV.

What is it within us that allows us to feel we can speak to people in this way, I will never understand it.:ohdear:

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 1984777)

As people get older, they become more like themselves.

That is not as confusing as it sounds. During our younger years we develop techniques and safeguards against letting those parts of our personalities show through that would be construed by many as hostile, negative, patronizing, or whatever; personality traits that could hinder what we might have seen as hindering advancement in work, destructive of relationships, whatever. Some of us become quite good at it, others, not so much. But as we age, we gradually become less able to hide those traits or to control when or under what circumstances the come to the surface. The older we get, the more the real person shows through.

This is not a rationale for extreme rudeness or negative social acting-out. People might be less able to control their reactions but they can still recognize situations where they are most apt to occur and avoid them. But it does explain why we're more apt to see it here in "the bubble" than in former communities populated with younger people.

Originally Posted by Nannyof3 (Post 1985058)

I've been here 12+ years and have only witnessed that type of behavior once or maybe twice. My experience is 95% of the people here are very nice, kind and generous .

Originally Posted by Pginbr (Post 1985202)

Or, what allows us to feel we must post it here. I don’t see where there is any mention of having knowledge or details of what occurred between 2 people in TV. Did the worker run over her dog? Did he confront her first? Was it a family member? We don’t know anything. Peeking out from s garage after hearing a squabble, but not having any details of what happened, constitutes dropping a post on a site that is for information about TV?

Originally Posted by NoMo50 (Post 1985112)

We've all seen this type of behavior many times, in many situations. The OP's example was a roadway worker, but it could be just about anyone. Ever get hung up in a grocery line while someone is fishing through their purse for a dozen coupons? Ever get stuck on the course behind a foursome that each take 4 shots to reach a par 3? How about that guy at the fast food counter trying to place an order for 8 people?

Folks that react beligerently to these situations usually have a common trait...an entitlement mentality. The old "my time is more important than your time" attitude. You can't change folks like this, as they have probably been that way for most of their adult life. Life is way too short to run around being PO'd a all the time. When I encounter someone like that, I will typically chuckle at the least, or even outwardly laugh at their behavior. If you buy into the fracas, it only escalates things and generally goes downhill quickly.

Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 1984808)

New York...LOL :blahblahblah:

Originally Posted by jmcica@aol.com (Post 1985241)

New England consists of Connecticut, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island and Massachusetts

Originally Posted by Hape2Bhr (Post 1984808)

New York...LOL :blahblahblah:

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1984735)

I live in one of the villages where the roads are being resurfaced. This morning the crew re-surfaced with tar our road, it looks great and the job they did is excellent. I was in my garage when I heard a woman screaming at someone, so being slightly nosey I got up to look. A woman in a car was giving a young man hell because he would not let her through, she sat there yelling and screaming at him for some time and then finally took off and drove through to wherever she was headed.

I have lived here long enough to know that people are rude and I should be used to it, but I never get used to the ignorance often shown here in TV.

What is it within us that allows us to feel we can speak to people in this way, I will never understand it.:ohdear:

Originally Posted by Travelingal702 (Post 1985266)

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Don't tar everyone with the same brush!!!

Originally Posted by MrFlorida (Post 1985201)

Well, coming from the Northeast, I find people in Florida very friendly and courteous.

Originally Posted by jmcica@aol.com (Post 1985241)

New England consists of Connecticut, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Rhode Island and Massachusetts

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 1984777)

As people get older, they become more like themselves.

That is not as confusing as it sounds. During our younger years we develop techniques and safeguards against letting those parts of our personalities show through that would be construed by many as hostile, negative, patronizing, or whatever; personality traits that could hinder what we might have seen as hindering advancement in work, destructive of relationships, whatever. Some of us become quite good at it, others, not so much. But as we age, we gradually become less able to hide those traits or to control when or under what circumstances the come to the surface. The older we get, the more the real person shows through.

This is not a rationale for extreme rudeness or negative social acting-out. People might be less able to control their reactions but they can still recognize situations where they are most apt to occur and avoid them. But it does explain why we're more apt to see it here in "the bubble" than in former communities populated with younger people.

Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 1984788)

Gerontology 101. In my former life I provided interventional and case-management services for vulnerable adults, most of them post-retirement age.

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1984833)

You did take a leap there. I never said what should be done. I said I believe anti-social behavior is a form of mental illness. And anti-social behavior is contextual.

For example, someone breaks into your house and is attempting to kill your family, that is mental illness. If you kill them to prevent them from killing your family, that is not a mental illness.

We currently do not understand how the mind/brain works well enough to have effective treatments. In general mental health, today boils down to treating or suppressing symptoms - mostly.

But, as I said, I do not believe in "good and evil". I believe that some people are mentally ill, and others aren't. If what you do is for your personal benefit and not society, then I believe that is a form of mental illness.

And yes, I do not believe there is any evidence that jails/prisons do more good than harm. They sort of come down to expensive crime universities. Prisons are a fairly modern invention that has never worked well. They basically isolate mentally ill people from society "for a while".

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1985333)

I understand that Japan has a different attitude to prison reform than the US. Perhaps we should be more open to the different methods of other countries like Japan. I understand that the US is the most incarcerated country of all. I am not sure if that is as a total number or as a % of the population.

Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1984735)

I live in one of the villages where the roads are being resurfaced. This morning the crew re-surfaced with tar our road, it looks great and the job they did is excellent. I was in my garage when I heard a woman screaming at someone, so being slightly nosey I got up to look. A woman in a car was giving a young man hell because he would not let her through, she sat there yelling and screaming at him for some time and then finally took off and drove through to wherever she was headed.

I have lived here long enough to know that people are rude and I should be used to it, but I never get used to the ignorance often shown here in TV.

What is it within us that allows us to feel we can speak to people in this way, I will never understand it.:ohdear:

Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1984842)

Yup - :)

I am NOT saying I have an answer or a solution. Just my opinion.

There are a ton of issues with my philosophy - like, WHO gets to decide what is good or bad for society. (In my world, I do, but I could see some here disagreeing with that - LOL)

And does society have the right to "alter" (cure?) a person who is mentally ill?

I don't know, I just have my ill-formed opinion.