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jimjamuser 08-07-2021 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 1984849)
Some of the reasons for control in earlier years is parental influence, well known that parents can keep adults in check, and when the parents' pass away, they show less restraint as there are no perceived down side from parental influence.

The other is life gets harder as you age, both mentally and physically, and that either or both can cause less emotional restraint. . . well known that CTE (concussion related brain injuries) reduces restraint, and I have had a couple of my own from 7 concussions early in life. Also, missing a medical addiction fix or crutch can cause lack of emotional restraint.

And then some are just having really bad days, not the normal but really bad, with very bad news, very bad diagnosis, and the like. . . .

So yes, as we age, seniors get cranky and funny. . . . and I have warned my kids

psych guy

I have had at least 3 concussions in my "wild and crazy" yoodtuth, which may have affected my adult and elderly behavior negatively. The long-term downside of concussions is probably leading to so many parents NOT wanting their children to participate in football. It could also be the reason that women outlive men on average. Maybe if society was SUPER smart they would convince people under 21 or so to constantly wear a lightweight helmet? Of course, that is NOT going to happen, I just "threw" that out as conjecture.

GrumpyOldMan 08-07-2021 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1985350)
The question is, does society have a right to "cure" a teenage gang member's violence - that was the subject of the older "Clockwork Orange" movie. Which for its time period was quite good, thought-provoking, and correctly predicted increased gang violence, which we see today. There have been many other movies with that subject also.

Interestingly........you could say that at one time England "cured" its aberrant behaviors and violence problem by sending them all to Australia. I assume that it was less costly and more convenient than storing all of them in prison in England.

One idea I entertained 'when I was younger was, we "own" a BUNCH of islands. We have this HUGE Navy with not much to do between wars. Let's combine the two. Give people 3 strikes and your gone option. Be convicted of 3 felonies and you are dropped on an island and left there to fend for yourself with all the other felons. The Navy would patrol the area to make sure no one tried to leave on a raft or whatever. The idea was basically, if you don't want to live here and obey the rules (laws) then we will kick you out. I moderated it to allow a 3 month period in jail for you to appeal to some country to allow you to be deported there. If you couldn't find any, then off to the island you go.

I have since decided it is not practical, and probably not moral or ethical.

kcrazorbackfan 08-07-2021 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gpsma (Post 1984946)
Lots of Karens here.

Most come from Midwestern states

Oh, I seriously doubt it; grew up in the Midwest and we’re pretty much docile and laid back until confronted by a person from the Northeast trying to bully their way into everything.

TedfromGA 08-07-2021 01:24 PM

Re: being rude
 
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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1984735)
I live in one of the villages where the roads are being resurfaced. This morning the crew re-surfaced with tar our road, it looks great and the job they did is excellent. I was in my garage when I heard a woman screaming at someone, so being slightly nosey I got up to look. A woman in a car was giving a young man hell because he would not let her through, she sat there yelling and screaming at him for some time and then finally took off and drove through to wherever she was headed.

I have lived here long enough to know that people are rude and I should be used to it, but I never get used to the ignorance often shown here in TV.

What is it within us that allows us to feel we can speak to people in this way, I will never understand it.:ohdear:

In my opinion we as a society have become very self centered and narcissistic to the point that rudeness and bad behavior is acceptable. It began when individuals felt it was OK to make nasty remarks as anonymous on social media. Now due to woke behavior there is no reason to “hide” behind saying or doing something anonymously. Geez, crime is taking place in broad daylight with no regard to consequences. Rioting, looting/shop lifting, violence is becoming the norm.

I was brought up to say nothing if I couldn’t be pleasant. My children were brought up the same. I respect authority unless it becomes autocratic, and then I try to be solution oriented. Compromise and respecting opinions different from mine has become unpopular.

From what the poster provider the first thought that came to mind was that the woman had no regard to the young man doing his job, all that was important is what she wanted or needed to do. Before anyone states I have no empathy for the “woman”, if there had been an emergency that required her presence, a simple explanation to the young man may have changed everything. (Of course that may have occurred but isn’t known). Nothing was stated but my impression is that the young man didn’t resort to yelling back - good for him.

Ok I’ll get off my soapbox and for the record this is the wife of the TOV account holder…some days I just need to vent…:):) and don’t get me started on the topic of golf and the lack of course management that we players have in keeping ball marks and divots repaired. :pray:

chicksinger 08-07-2021 02:17 PM

Arrogance and Ignorance Appear To Go Together
 
My husband runs into people all the time that just can't understand why they are being held back from entering a particular street. When you see flashing lights or big trucks that appear to be in the way of using that street, there's obviously something going on that is blocking it. It could be maintenance, repair or worse... how difficult is it to just accept the fact that you just need to turn around and come in from the back side of it if you really need to get onto that street further down the road. The phrase, "Don't shoot the messenger" is really apropos here. Try to imagine the people not letting you through might be all that stands between you and something not so good. Ever heard of giving someone the benefit of the doubt????

jimjamuser 08-07-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by KRMACK55 (Post 1985182)
It’s the concept of living in this bubbie and as it grows our sense of territorialism increases with the more population ! The place is nothing special but folks were sold this concept. Things will get worse as this place grows too large as it’s doing now.

I agree that things will get worse here as the chaos and tribalism grow nationwide.

GrumpyOldMan 08-07-2021 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chicksinger (Post 1985421)
My husband runs into people all the time that just can't understand why they are being held back from entering a particular street. When you see flashing lights or big trucks that appear to be in the way of using that street, there's obviously something going on that is blocking it. It could be maintenance, repair or worse... how difficult is it to just accept the fact that you just need to turn around and come in from the back side of it if you really need to get onto that street further down the road. The phrase, "Don't shoot the messenger" is really apropos here. Try to imagine the people not letting you through might be all that stands between you and something not so good. Ever heard of giving someone the benefit of the doubt????

Well, personally the first thing that comes to my mind when I see that is the had nothing better to do and just wanted to annoy people, so they blocked the road - sigh...

(sarcasm)

GrumpyOldMan 08-07-2021 02:26 PM

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jimjamuser 08-07-2021 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1985276)
I think the problem here is it's getting too crowded. The more people you put together, the worse it will get. The lines, the traffic, the crowded restaurants. The Villages has grown so much that it has become a city, with that you get city problems. Fasten your seatbelts, it's only going to get worse.

IMO the whole country got overcrowded after about 175 Million people.

stanley 08-07-2021 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1985433)
IMO the whole country got overcrowded after about 175 Million people.

Do you have kids of your own?

NoMoSno 08-07-2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1985433)
IMO the whole country got overcrowded after about 175 Million people.

Last week you said 225 million????

jimjamuser 08-07-2021 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by John41 (Post 1985346)
How many African Americans are in Japan? There’s your incarceration answer.

An over-simplification and an example of one tribe blaming the "OTHER" tribe for problems that could have been solved 75 years ago.

jimjamuser 08-07-2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1985360)
One idea I entertained 'when I was younger was, we "own" a BUNCH of islands. We have this HUGE Navy with not much to do between wars. Let's combine the two. Give people 3 strikes and your gone option. Be convicted of 3 felonies and you are dropped on an island and left there to fend for yourself with all the other felons. The Navy would patrol the area to make sure no one tried to leave on a raft or whatever. The idea was basically, if you don't want to live here and obey the rules (laws) then we will kick you out. I moderated it to allow a 3 month period in jail for you to appeal to some country to allow you to be deported there. If you couldn't find any, then off to the island you go.

I have since decided it is not practical, and probably not moral or ethical.

Tough times call for tough solutions.........that is just 1/2 serious.......just to be thought-provoking.

GrumpyOldMan 08-07-2021 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1985433)
IMO the whole country got overcrowded after about 175 Million people.

Most people are not aware of this, it kind of looks like the exponential growth of a virus. Maybe Agent Smith was right!

momchaves 08-07-2021 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by michael g. (Post 1984801)
sooo what city in the new england states can you guess where this rude person is from......lol

boston?

jimjamuser 08-07-2021 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1985435)
Last week you said 225 million????

Then some may remember my main reason why.........A.I. and Robotics will create excess unemployment. I could be satisfied with even 250 Million. But, what really needs to be done is a sophisticated computer calculation of what the IDEAL population would be in the US - taking into consideration space and natural resources. Anyone can read articles today about Scientific doubt as to whether the US can feed itself in the future? MY guess is that it would fall between 175 and 250 Million people. That way there would be fewer rude people due to less crowding pressure and other pressures that we have been talking about.

GrumpyOldMan 08-07-2021 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1985454)
Then some may remember my main reason why.........A.I. and Robotics will create excess unemployment. I could be satisfied with even 250 Million. But, what really needs to be done is a sophisticated computer calculation of what the IDEAL population would be in the US - taking into consideration space and natural resources. Anyone can read articles today about Scientific doubt as to whether the US can feed itself in the future? MY guess is that it would fall between 175 and 250 Million people. That way there would be fewer rude people due to less crowding pressure and other pressures that we have been talking about.

I expect that in our kid's lifetime (assuming no major reset happens) there will be no more "jobs". All work will be done by "robots".

How we deal with an economy with no scarcity is yet to be understood. ALL our current economic models are based on the assumption of continuous growth.

I expect at least part of the transition will be to implement an "automation" tax, to pay for a Universal Basic Income, for people displaced by automation.

John41 08-07-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1985433)
IMO the whole country got overcrowded after about 175 Million people.

I agree. In 1956 the US population hit 175 million. Those were great years: Elvis appears on Ed Sullivan, NY Yankees beat the Brooklyn Dodgers in the World Series, tail fins on cars.

Lots of studies have shown overcrowding breeds aggression.

Velvet 08-07-2021 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pginbr (Post 1985202)
Or, what allows us to feel we must post it here. I don’t see where there is any mention of having knowledge or details of what occurred between 2 people in TV. Did the worker run over her dog? Did he confront her first? Was it a family member? We don’t know anything. Peeking out from a garage after hearing a squabble, but not having any details of what happened, constitutes dropping a post on a site that is for information about TV?

Because… we try to help each other. OP is welcome to express her opinion, as are you.

Laker14 08-07-2021 06:53 PM

According to Wikipedia, as of 2018 there are 19,495 incorporated cities, towns and villages in the United States. 14,768 of these have populations below 5,000. Only ten have populations above 1 million and none are above 10 million. 310 cities are considered at least medium cities with populations of 100,000 or more.
I'll bet every one of them has at least two rude people. Some of them have more.

Spalumbos62 08-07-2021 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Laker14 (Post 1985529)
According to Wikipedia, as of 2018 there are 19,495 incorporated cities, towns and villages in the United States. 14,768 of these have populations below 5,000. Only ten have populations above 1 million and none are above 10 million. 310 cities are considered at least medium cities with populations of 100,000 or more.
I'll bet every one of them has at least two rude people. Some of them have more.



Lol...lol..wow this post went wild with many snarky detours. I laugh because it's so ironic that the root of the post was about an upset old lady loosing her cheerios at a street worker.
Go back, reread it....I think you will all see the humor....honestly

Velvet 08-07-2021 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 1985537)
Lol...lol..wow this post went wild with many snarky detours. I laugh because it's so ironic that the root of the post was about an upset old lady loosing her cheerios at a street worker.
Go back, reread it....I think you will all see the humor....honestly

Yep! The funniest thing to me is someone trying to justify rudeness, by being rude themselves.

Pginbr 08-07-2021 08:36 PM

Tos

JMintzer 08-07-2021 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GrumpyOldMan (Post 1985252)
Hmm, I thought those were all part of the US, did that change?

One can only hope... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:


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