Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2431282)

Well they should have come here legally or not at all.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431307)

Mine came from Russia, Latvia, and Germany.
But that was before they had
the immigration laws that they have now. If they had come now, with the "documentation" they had then, they would be considered "illegal aliens" by some. Heck, they didn't even speak English when they got here, except maybe my grandmother's parents, who were of a somewhat higher class than the usual Russian peasants, and where therefore educated.

Go ahead and deport me. I'm an anchor baby's anchor baby's anchor baby. Third generation American, born from illegal immigrants. If you want to deport me please send me to France. I think I could enjoy my life in France, but I can't afford to go on my own.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2431279)

90% of roofs didn’t need to be replaced anyway, just big scam. :oops: but, once one got free roof and told somebody else the flood gates was opened up. :crap2:

Originally Posted by Mookie55 (Post 2431302)

Where South of 44 are you not in Wildwood if you live in The Villages?

Originally Posted by Mookie55 (Post 2431302)

Where South of 44 are you not in Wildwood if you live in The Villages?

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431294)

Not all, no. Many were smuggled in.

Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2431319)

I just want the whole mess to go away. None of this should even be happening.

Originally Posted by BillyGrown (Post 2431349)

ICE will be mostly targeting new construction sites in Florida for the next 2 months according to the Tampa paper. There is no shortage of that around here.

Originally Posted by FloridaGuy66 (Post 2431311)

I have my family tree traced back to the 1600's. I have a direct descendant that "sneaked "(migrated) into America from Canada in the 1870's. Technically I'm retroactively an illegal here. I guess I'll just wait until ICE shows up at my door.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2431371)

Do you have birth certificate and SS number? I’d so you are legal. Or did you just sneak across border or have fake birth certificate and SS number. So let not go there. With the shoe horn comparisons.

Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2431396)

Those that are cheering this on should realize

That pool you were building by T and D, not anymore
Your lawn care, not anymore
The driveway you were in the middle of installing, oh well
The yard that is messed up by your landscaping job, it may stay that way
The beautiful plants on your roads, done over with
That roof you had blown off by the storm, get a tarp
That house you contracted for construction, add a year

I believe the mass exodus from Wildwood and Leesburg triggered by this raid is not going to be quite the result you were hoping for.

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2431402)

A few days ago, I was close to a construction site in TV. A food truck was there and I ordered some grub. And a large Coke. The server, apparently a bit deaf, asked if I wanted ice. I said yes. He didn't understand, so I yelled out "ICE!!!!". I then saw a bunch of guys running off roofs into their vans and scurry off. ... now it makes sense.

BTW, this is tongue in cheek folks.

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2431402)

A few days ago, I was close to a construction site in TV. A food truck was there and I ordered some grub. And a large Coke. The server, apparently a bit deaf, asked if I wanted ice. I said yes. He didn't understand, so I yelled out "ICE!!!!". I then saw a bunch of guys running off roofs into their vans and scurry off. ... now it makes sense.

BTW, this is tongue in cheek folks.

Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2431402)

A few days ago, I was close to a construction site in TV. A food truck was there and I ordered some grub. And a large Coke. The server, apparently a bit deaf, asked if I wanted ice. I said yes. He didn't understand, so I yelled out "ICE!!!!". I then saw a bunch of guys running off roofs into their vans and scurry off. ... now it makes sense.

BTW, this is tongue in cheek folks.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2431398)

I have been wondering that myself.

My brother went out to one of the yard workers and gave him a twenty to take care of the weeds. We looked out there and the weeds were still there and the landscapers had left. My brother commented "I guess he did not speak English"! When money is involved I bet he did.

Many of the roofers, landscapers and the like around here do not look like they grew up speaking English.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2431413)

How can you tell by looking?

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2431394)

My Kentucky grandparents (both had one parent Native American) did not have a birth certificate just a bible.
All of their children birthed on the farm, in 1920-35 didn’t have a BC. Just recorded birth in same bible.
To date 3 survivors of 6 Do Not have a BC, only family bible, from early 1900s.

Yet acquired DL & SS# in their 20s. My guess is today technically could be deported, because of lack of full legal identification, as to place of birth. Early Descendants of Native Americans usually didn’t have BC of live births.

Originally Posted by opinionist (Post 2431363)

Were any of these violent criminals, or are they getting to the employed illegals?
It seems like they should focus next on the illegals living off welfare.

Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2431312)

We’ve go to get them all out fast so we can make room for white South African immigrants who will need jobs but will definitely not be filling the construction and landscaping jobs.

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2431394)

My Kentucky grandparents (both had one parent Native American) did not have a birth certificate just a bible.
All of their children birthed on the farm, in 1920-35 didn’t have a BC. Just recorded birth in same bible.
To date 3 survivors of 6 Do Not have a BC, only family bible, from early 1900s.

Yet acquired DL & SS# in their 20s. My guess is today technically could be deported, because of lack of full legal identification, as to place of birth. Early Descendants of Native Americans usually didn’t have BC of live births.

Originally Posted by margaretmattson (Post 2431323)

If you were born in the USA or territories, this makes you a citizen. Even babies of the illegal construction workers who were born in the USA are citizens. The parents will be deported but not the children.

Originally Posted by Tustin714 (Post 2431342)

There's always an apologists for illegal aliens. The laws in place now are fundamentally different from the 1800s, and the "thousands" you complain about are a TINY fraction of the tens of millions that have invaded over recent decades (especially the last 4 years!). A nation without borders is not a nation.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2431405)

I will bet many of the Native Americans when we first started landing on their shores had wished they had yelled out "smallpox". Of course, they would not have understood at first but soon would.

Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2431396)

Those that are cheering this on should realize

That pool you were building by T and D, not anymore
Your lawn care, not anymore
The driveway you were in the middle of installing, oh well
The yard that is messed up by your landscaping job, it may stay that way
The beautiful plants on your roads, done over with
That roof you had blown off by the storm, get a tarp
That house you contracted for construction, add a year

I believe the mass exodus from Wildwood and Leesburg triggered by this raid is not going to be quite the result you were hoping for.

Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2431316)

Any employer who doesn't withhold the payroll taxes for any employee is violating the IRS, Social Security, and Department of Labor laws. These are Federal laws that have nothing to do with the the state of Florida. There is no 10 employee cap for these Federal laws.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431429)

It's also scaring away LEGAL immigrants, who know darned well that their brown skin and foreign accent makes them prime targets of raids. There's already been plenty of those who have been deported, without due process. Just taken away, put in a detention center, then loaded up and shipped over to South America.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431429)

It's also scaring away LEGAL immigrants, who know darned well that their brown skin and foreign accent makes them prime targets of raids. There's already been plenty of those who have been deported, without due process. Just taken away, put in a detention center, then loaded up and shipped over to South America.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431429)

It's also scaring away LEGAL immigrants, who know darned well that their brown skin and foreign accent makes them prime targets of raids. There's already been plenty of those who have been deported, without due process. Just taken away, put in a detention center, then loaded up and shipped over to South America.

Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2431396)

Those that are cheering this on should realize

That pool you were building by T and D, not anymore
Your lawn care, not anymore
The driveway you were in the middle of installing, oh well
The yard that is messed up by your landscaping job, it may stay that way
The beautiful plants on your roads, done over with
That roof you had blown off by the storm, get a tarp
That house you contracted for construction, add a year

I believe the mass exodus from Wildwood and Leesburg triggered by this raid is not going to be quite the result you were hoping for.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431427)

There are only around 50 million immigrants in the US, total, currently. That includes immigrants on work visas, other green cards, asylum-seekers, DACA recipients, and includes every immigrant recorded who immigrated decades ago and is still living today.

There are no "tens of millions that have invaded...(especially the last 4 years)."

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431294)

Not all, no. Many were smuggled in. The potato famine in Ireland in the 1940's, and again during the Troubles in the 1970's and 1980's saw thousands of "illegal aliens" here in the US. There are over 10,000 undocumented Irish immigrants living in the USA, currently.

The first years leading to WWII saw thousands of "illegal aliens" from Poland, Germany, and other parts of Europe arrive in the US. By "illegal alien" I mean "undocumented immigrants." They didn't have "papers" - they gave a name, which was usually changed and anglicized, told the people on Ellis Island who they were going to visit - which was never checked - and as long as they didn't show symptoms of tuberculosis they were allowed to enter New York City.

Thing about the Europeans though - immigration wasn't tracked the way it is now. So MOST immigrants were what we now call undocumented, or "illegal." The government even created a process to make them permanent residents. If they were fleeing the war, fleeing persecution, fleeing for their lives - the American government helped them to legitimize their stay. But they had to be here "illegally" first.

Between 1880 and 1920, thousands of Italian immigrants fled Italy and came to the US, many of whom were undocumented.

Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2431269)

No matter, there is a lot of pain and suffering this evening for many families as they are deciding where to go. It was a needless act that inflicts pain on many families living in the nightmare. One thing is a big positive for most, The Villages is not a safe place for illegal immigrants any longer.