Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431429)

It's also scaring away LEGAL immigrants, who know darned well that their brown skin and foreign accent makes them prime targets of raids. There's already been plenty of those who have been deported, without due process. Just taken away, put in a detention center, then loaded up and shipped over to South America.

Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2431396)

Those that are cheering this on should realize

That pool you were building by T and D, not anymore
Your lawn care, not anymore
The driveway you were in the middle of installing, oh well
The yard that is messed up by your landscaping job, it may stay that way
The beautiful plants on your roads, done over with
That roof you had blown off by the storm, get a tarp
That house you contracted for construction, add a year

I believe the mass exodus from Wildwood and Leesburg triggered by this raid is not going to be quite the result you were hoping for.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431427)

There are only around 50 million immigrants in the US, total, currently. That includes immigrants on work visas, other green cards, asylum-seekers, DACA recipients, and includes every immigrant recorded who immigrated decades ago and is still living today.

There are no "tens of millions that have invaded...(especially the last 4 years)."

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431294)

Not all, no. Many were smuggled in. The potato famine in Ireland in the 1940's, and again during the Troubles in the 1970's and 1980's saw thousands of "illegal aliens" here in the US. There are over 10,000 undocumented Irish immigrants living in the USA, currently.

The first years leading to WWII saw thousands of "illegal aliens" from Poland, Germany, and other parts of Europe arrive in the US. By "illegal alien" I mean "undocumented immigrants." They didn't have "papers" - they gave a name, which was usually changed and anglicized, told the people on Ellis Island who they were going to visit - which was never checked - and as long as they didn't show symptoms of tuberculosis they were allowed to enter New York City.

Thing about the Europeans though - immigration wasn't tracked the way it is now. So MOST immigrants were what we now call undocumented, or "illegal." The government even created a process to make them permanent residents. If they were fleeing the war, fleeing persecution, fleeing for their lives - the American government helped them to legitimize their stay. But they had to be here "illegally" first.

Between 1880 and 1920, thousands of Italian immigrants fled Italy and came to the US, many of whom were undocumented.

Originally Posted by DrMack (Post 2431269)

No matter, there is a lot of pain and suffering this evening for many families as they are deciding where to go. It was a needless act that inflicts pain on many families living in the nightmare. One thing is a big positive for most, The Villages is not a safe place for illegal immigrants any longer.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431424)

That is no longer true. Citizens have RECENTLY been deported, including children born in the USA, who would otherwise have been forcibly separated from their mother. This situation is going through the court system right now, but the events themselves have already occurred in the past few months.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431424)

That is no longer true. Citizens have RECENTLY been deported, including children born in the USA, who would otherwise have been forcibly separated from their mother. This situation is going through the court system right now, but the events themselves have already occurred in the past few months.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431429)

It's also scaring away LEGAL immigrants, who know darned well that their brown skin and foreign accent makes them prime targets of raids. There's already been plenty of those who have been deported, without due process. Just taken away, put in a detention center, then loaded up and shipped over to South America.

Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2431455)

I heard they will now target any new pool construction that is currently underway. Including homes already built.

Originally Posted by Whatnext (Post 2431459)

Seems to me that ICE concentrate on the soft targets, that is illegals who work.
Get after the gangs and abusers of the system, there are enough of them around, but that involves investigation and hard work. Much easier and more photo opportunities to do raids on the productive migrants, who get no benefits short or long term for doing the jobs others locals will not.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2431464)

It does seem mostly for show with little or no substance.

Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 2431419)

Rest assured that time of arrival, Bible notations, family history in the states, SS#, DL's and timeline would not cause deportation. I think common sense would indicate this wouldn't be the case.

Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2431423)

So, that don’t relieve them from doing what’s required by state and federal law. I fine it unusual they had no identification until their 20’s? Was they home schooled? I wasn’t born at home not hospital in late late 40s. My mother left me with my grandparents neither drove or lived close to big city. Yet I have birth certificate. Where there Will there’s a way.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2431427)

There are only around 50 million immigrants in the US, total, currently. That includes immigrants on work visas, other green cards, asylum-seekers, DACA recipients, and includes every immigrant recorded who immigrated decades ago and is still living today.

There are no "tens of millions that have invaded...(especially the last 4 years)."