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senior citizen 11-07-2012 07:31 AM

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graciegirl 11-07-2012 07:41 AM

I am not a fan of the Jehovah Witnesses. I am a Catholic with my own problems and lotsa work to do. But I don't think they do what they do to harass or annoy. Like a lot of folks they are probably sincere in their efforts.

If I see dressed up folks, two or three of them, going to others doors, I just don't answer the door and if I do. I say, thank you, I am not interested.

And...I hope by so doing, Someone will still leave the door open up there when the time comes.

I think you are supposed to be nice.

JoeC1947 11-07-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 577635)
Some of the ignorance in these replies is just astounding. Enough!

Russ,

Do you mean the ones that agree with you or the ones that don't?

senior citizen 11-07-2012 07:53 AM

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senior citizen 11-07-2012 08:13 AM

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gomoho 11-07-2012 08:15 AM

I think the point is we don't want anyone knocking on our door that isn't either a)delivering a package or b)invited.

graciegirl 11-07-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 577740)
I think the point is we don't want anyone knocking on our door that isn't either a)delivering a package or b)invited.


And point well taken. You are right. And kind and funny and good and always fair and considerate in your views.


Please come knock on MY door...or ring the bell. It's a doozy, it plays a song. ;)

Hugs waiting.

BobnBev 11-07-2012 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 577614)
The gate guards are not allowed to block anybody from entering because the county maintains the roads. That's the deal the developer worked out with Sumter county years ago when the county wanted the gates removed. They are public roads and therefore the public has access to them. The gates are just for show.

Well,if they are County roads, who is responsible for the snow remov....errrr....ooops, my bad. :cold::throwtomatoes:

ugotme 11-07-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 577740)
I think the point is we don't want anyone knocking on our door that isn't either a)delivering a package or b)invited.

Absolutely!

I must say I have only had 1 problem with a JW. After politely telling him that I wasn't interested I proceeded to close my door (not slam it - just close it).

At that point, he put his foot in the door to block it.

I then (ummm shall we say rather unpolitely) told him that it would be in his best interest to remove his foot !

HE GOT THE MESSAGE !

senior citizen 11-07-2012 08:45 AM

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JoeC1947 11-07-2012 09:35 AM

I have a sister in Long Island that has been a J.W. for some 35 years. When she became a J.W. she discontinued all communication with our family for 25 years because she said the the J.W.'s were her family. My mother made many attempts to contact her through her friends to no avail. She finally contacted my Mother after my Father died and has been in sporadic contact ever since, mostly when she needed money. She also doesn't celebrate birthdays. Once when she was at my house it happened to be my Mom's birthday, she asked me if I thought it would be weird if she has a piece of cake. I said why would I think it's weird? It's just cake. She said "we" don't celebrate birthdays. I lost a good sister to the J.W.'s and my Mother, who is a devout Catholic, lost a good daughter.

gerryann 11-07-2012 09:47 AM

To each his own...believe in whatever you want...whatever God you want, but d'ont prothlesize to me about your beliefs unless I ask.

Uptown Girl 11-07-2012 10:04 AM

Mrs Brown and the Mormons
 
Sorry... I couldn't resist. (Warning: contains some colorful language!)


Mrs. Brown and The Mormons - Mrs. Brown's Boys Episode 6, preview - BBC One - YouTube

senior citizen 11-07-2012 10:15 AM

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Russ_Boston 11-07-2012 11:24 AM

Admin -

I hope you're noticing that religious 'talk' is very close to politics in terms of getting off track and becoming viral on web sites like this.

Time to close thread before it gets out of hand?

Just my 2 c.

cgalloway6 11-07-2012 11:45 AM

I am not a supported of JW but they are practicing their religion as they believe they should. Evangelical Christians do the same thing but send missionaries to other countries or even urban areas(street ministries) to spread the Word of Christ. They do it because they believe that the only way you will be saved is by accepting Jesus as your Lord and Savior. You don't see them going door to door in The Villages because most Christians are too intimidated by non-believers and fear the ridicule that might happen to openly talk about their faith and the local churches don't push it. The local churches have different ways to spread the Word - ask you to bring a neighbor or friend to some church event - Christmas pagent, Thanksgiving meal, sunrise service, youth choir, the Village Voices.
The commission is to only spread the word, plant a seed, not convince anyone. That is God's job. If you aren't ready to accept it, no amount of discussion will change your heart.

JoeC1947 11-07-2012 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 577855)
Admin -

I hope you're noticing that religious 'talk' is very close to politics in terms of getting off track and becoming viral on web sites like this.

Time to close thread before it gets out of hand?

Just my 2 c.

That's funny. Hummmmm, who was the first one to call some posters ignorant?
Let me think......Oh, now I remember.

Russ_Boston 11-07-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeC1947 (Post 577872)
That's funny. Hummmmm, who was the first one to call some posters ignorant?
Let me think......Oh, now I remember.

What's ignorant about my statement? You can see just from the length of the replies that it is getting out of hand. That is exactly the opposite of ignorance. (i.e. lack of knowledge - Ignorance | Define Ignorance at Dictionary.com)

Ripcord13 11-07-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 577743)
And point well taken. You are right. And kind and funny and good and always fair and considerate in your views.


Please come knock on MY door...or ring the bell. It's a doozy, it plays a song. ;)

Hugs waiting.

Mydoor bell plays La Cucaracha.

Taltarzac725 11-07-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripcord13 (Post 577896)
Mydoor bell plays La Cucaracha.

Very interesting song that. The Straight Dope: What are the words to "La Cucaracha"?

Cannot remember ever getting any JW in the Villages. They seemed to come around every year in Palm Harbor. I would just not answer the door whenever I saw someone I thought could be a religious missionary of some sort.

Geewiz 11-07-2012 02:15 PM

OK - joking aside....religious/philosophical outlooks are exceedingly personal. You want to leave a brochure with information - fine. You knock on my door and expect me to engage you in debate - no matter how "well meaning" you are, expect to be called out for engaging in arrogant colonialism. I'm not very tolerant of folks pushing their ideology on me especially when that ideology is based neither in science nor historical fact. Faith is great. It lets people exceed their self-imposed limitations..but, the intellectual bottom line is the faith argument is "this is the truth because I believe it's the truth though I can't prove it." I'm not saying you are wrong - but, it is a poor substitute for more measurable observations.

ilovetv 11-07-2012 03:38 PM

I'm not a fan of door-to-door peddling of anything. The Jehovah's Witness calls (the calls, not the persons) are a "nuisance" I'd say, and I don't answer the door to them nor anybody else who shows up at an inopportune time.

While I don't like some of the religious doctrines they want to deliver, it's a bit disturbing here to see them talked about as if they were criminals or something.

A lot worse things/people could show up at the door.

Carmpat 11-07-2012 03:46 PM

When I told them I was not interested the first time, the older man would not take no for an answer and that is when I shut the door. I was not rude just not interested in what they had to say

gerryann 11-07-2012 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 577993)
I'm not a fan of door-to-door peddling of anything. The Jehovah's Witness calls (the calls, not the persons) are a "nuisance" I'd say, and I don't answer the door to them nor anybody else who shows up at an inopportune time.

While I don't like some of the religious doctrines they want to deliver, it's a bit disturbing here to see them talked about as if they were criminals or something.

A lot worse things/people could show up at the door.

:agree:

Russ_Boston 11-07-2012 03:58 PM

Wow, it seems that you have a lot more aggressive JW's down here!

I've never been rude nor have they. I just say 'no thanks' and they walk away.

bkcunningham1 11-07-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 577855)
Admin -

I hope you're noticing that religious 'talk' is very close to politics in terms of getting off track and becoming viral on web sites like this.

Time to close thread before it gets out of hand?

Just my 2 c.

I hope so.

Cantwaittoarrive 11-07-2012 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Carmpat (Post 577398)
Beware of Jehovah Witnesses and unwanted solicitations going through Sanibel neighborhood on the south side of Avondale.

This morning my doorbell rang and I went to answer the door only to find a Jehovah's Witness couple trying to get me to change my religion. I told them I was not interested and also said they were not allowed to solicitate.

Patti

I don't answer a knock on my door or the doorbell ringing unless I'm expecting someone. If someone rings or knocks and I don't know or expect that they were coming over it means they are trying to sell me something. All the neighbors know my policy on this so they always call in advance. Just because someone decides to come to my door doesn't mean I need to answer

Russ_Boston 11-07-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cantwaittoarrive (Post 578009)
I don't answer a knock on my door or the doorbell ringing unless I'm expecting someone. If someone rings or knocks and I don't know or expect that they were coming over it means they are trying to sell me something. All the neighbors know my policy on this so they always call in advance. Just because someone decides to come to my door doesn't mean I need to answer

As a friendly neighbor who lives in a very friendly neighborhood - If I had to call first before knocking on your door I don't think I'd be calling very much. Just saying.

JoeC1947 11-07-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 577879)
What's ignorant about my statement? You can see just from the length of the replies that it is getting out of hand. That is exactly the opposite of ignorance. (i.e. lack of knowledge - Ignorance | Define Ignorance at Dictionary.com)

I didn't say anything was ignorant about your statement. Did you forget you wrote in post # 30:

"Some of the ignorance in these replies is just astounding. Enough! "

Your words not mine.

Moderator 11-07-2012 05:16 PM

OK, let's get back on topic about JW doing door-to-door visits.

gomoho 11-07-2012 06:47 PM

What more is there to say - some people answer and politely tell them to go away, some choose not answer at all, and some don't want anyone knocking on their door uninvited or unexpected. That pretty much wraps it up - don't think it matters if it's a JV or anyone else selling or whatever.

downeaster 11-07-2012 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Moderator (Post 578050)
OK, let's get back on topic about JW doing door-to-door visits.

Let's treat religion like politics. Taboo.

gerryann 11-07-2012 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 578153)
Let's treat religion like politics. Taboo.

I couldn't agree more. They're are JW here in the villages. There is a Kingdom Hall just outside TV. They are all good people.

Mack184 11-07-2012 08:30 PM

Whether or not TV is a "gated" community (it's not) really is not relevant. Most people no matter where they live are not interested in people knocking on their doors whether it's to talk about God, Politics or AmWay. The mailman, Federal Express & UPS tend to be another matter, but in the most general sense you have asked them to come to your door no matter where you live.

Ripcord13 11-08-2012 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 578160)
Whether or not TV is a "gated" community (it's not) really is not relevant. Most people no matter where they live are not interested in people knocking on their doors whether it's to talk about God, Politics or AmWay. The mailman, Federal Express & UPS tend to be another matter, but in the most general sense you have asked them to come to your door no matter where you live.

I have asked them to come to my door? No I haven't where do you come up with that? What ever you've been smoking I want some.

gamby 11-08-2012 12:21 AM

In an effort to set matters straight
 
In an effort to set matters straight, Jehovah’s Witnesses published a tract that answered such questions as these: Who are Jehovah’s Witnesses? Are they Christians? Do they accept medical care? Why do they go from door to door? How is their work financed? How do Jehovah’s Witnesses benefit the community?
The informative tract in the French language was entitled Jehovah’s Witnesses—What You Need to Know. In order to leave the tract with as many people as possible, a campaign was organized. more than nine million copies were distributed.
This tract impressed many, including public officials. “The criticism leveled at Jehovah’s Witnesses fills me with indignation,” wrote a regional councilman after reading the tract. “Time and again I have come to appreciate the benevolent and unselfish character of your work.” In response to the tract, a member of the European Parliament wrote: “The majority of the people know very well how to tell the difference between the group of Christians of which you are a part and the*cults.”
In Brittany a Witness presented the tract to a priest, who readily accepted it. “I commend you for what you are doing,” the priest said. He then added: “I encourage my parishioners to let you into their homes and to offer you a cup of coffee. You can even tell those you meet that you have been to my home. I also want to tell you that I appreciate reading your publications.”
After receiving the tract, a Protestant man in Alsace wrote to the Watch Tower Society requesting a Bible study. “Having lost all confidence in my parish,” he wrote, “I’m looking forward to a new start spiritually.” Despite the false charges that are at times leveled against them, Jehovah’s Witnesses in France—indeed, in all parts of the world—continue helping people to come to an accurate knowledge of God’s purposes, as set forth in the Bible.—2*Timothy 3:16, 17.

senior citizen 11-08-2012 07:03 AM

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senior citizen 11-08-2012 07:37 AM

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mulligan 11-08-2012 08:58 AM

I do believe this horse is dead

Russ_Boston 11-08-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by downeaster (Post 578153)
Let's treat religion like politics. Taboo.

I guess that's what I meant.


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