Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 578284)

I guess that's what I meant.

Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 578282)

I do believe this horse is dead

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 578312)

Would those of you who are offended by someone knocking on your door with a cause be equally offended if the visitor were the minister from the local Baptist church inviting you to a revival, a candidate for local office seeking your vote, the chairman of the local _________ political party (insert your own choice in the blank) trying to invite you to a political rally, someone collecting for the March of Dimes, a neighbor collecting for the American Heart Association? Would you call the Community Watch if the visitor were someone distributing a petition for signatures about a local issue, someone selling raffle tickets for their grandson's elementary school fund raiser, or someone trying to promote a local blood drive at the hospital? If the religion being promoted by the visitor were Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Hindu, or other would it make a difference? If someone was hungry and came to your door seeking food, of if someone was rich and came to your door to give part of her fortune to you would it matter?
I'm just curious!

Originally Posted by JoeC1947 (Post 578313)

I guess the tribal council has spoken. Some people say things they cannot or will not defend then they want to close down the thread.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 578390)

Back in Ohio, the kids on my block would say, Wanna fight? Join the army.

Here is how I defend what I just typed (IF you meant me.) Some see no reason to get our knickers in a twist over something that is NOT dangerous, only annoying. Being rude to a church person just doesn't seem right and you don't have to answer the door and you do NOT have to say anything. Or just no thank you or thank you for the info.

OR...you can call the authorities. This is a value thing. We react to this issue as to how we were raised. There isn't any right or wrong answer.

Continue on. Ad infinitum.

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 578441)

I didn't see the responses the way it's mentioned above.
The ones upset found the "callers" to be the rude ones; not the other way around.

None of us would go out of our way to be rude to a "church person".
I'm sure we are all raised just fine.

The "authorities" have better things to do than respond to disgruntled folks having their doorbells constantly rung.

What I've said is that we live in a pretty big house and are not always by our front door........we could be on any of the three levels ....or we could be out on the back screened in porch or on the deck or in the backyard.
Every time the doorbell rings to an "uninvited guest" is a hassle as you get older. We don't run as fast as we used to.

I think this is boiling down to who likes to go around and ring people's doorbells to who prefers their uninterrupted privacy.........and the J.W. we get up here are a bit offputting........maybe not as nice as the ones you get at your place in TV.

Also, if you didn't answer the door, how would you know it wasn't someone you might like to see????

We're talking "uninvited annoying solicitors"..............soliciting something we are not interested in.

Just last night we were discussing how THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR we haven't got any local candidates coming to our door on Sunday afternoons...........strange but true. They came for years, handing out fliers or hanging them on front doors........

Originally Posted by Ripcord13 (Post 578210)

I have asked them to come to my door? No I haven't where do you come up with that? What ever you've been smoking I want some.

Originally Posted by Mack184 (Post 578466)

If you are receiving something from the Post Office (not junk) or a package from Federal Express or UPS you most likely ordered it, bought it, getting billed for it or asked for it. So tacitly you have asked them to come to your door.

Originally Posted by Geewiz (Post 577958)

OK - joking aside....religious/philosophical outlooks are exceedingly personal. You want to leave a brochure with information - fine. You knock on my door and expect me to engage you in debate - no matter how "well meaning" you are, expect to be called out for engaging in arrogant colonialism. I'm not very tolerant of folks pushing their ideology on me especially when that ideology is based neither in science nor historical fact. Faith is great. It lets people exceed their self-imposed limitations..but, the intellectual bottom line is the faith argument is "this is the truth because I believe it's the truth though I can't prove it." I'm not saying you are wrong - but, it is a poor substitute for more measurable observations.

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 578018)

As a friendly neighbor who lives in a very friendly neighborhood - If I had to call first before knocking on your door I don't think I'd be calling very much. Just saying.

Originally Posted by USSGompers (Post 578497)

Here in Florida with all the home Invasions- we do NOT open the door to strangers. I don't care what you look like- you are not coming in. If I open the door- I am inviting crime-

Don't do it-

You will be very sorry.

If I want info on different religions- I will Google it!

Thank you
:rant-rave:

Originally Posted by USSGompers (Post 578497)

Here in Florida with all the home Invasions- we do NOT open the door to strangers. I don't care what you look like- you are not coming in. If I open the door- I am inviting crime-

Don't do it-

You will be very sorry.

If I want info on different religions- I will Google it!

Thank you
:rant-rave:

Originally Posted by Carmpat (Post 577398)

Beware of Jehovah Witnesses and unwanted solicitations going through Sanibel neighborhood on the south side of Avondale.

This morning my doorbell rang and I went to answer the door only to find a Jehovah's Witness couple trying to get me to change my religion. I told them I was not interested and also said they were not allowed to solicitate.

Patti

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 578523)

Probably not........but would they print it?

However, we saw a heck of a lot of workers, probably most just trying to do their daily jobs.........who looked like aliens (not the outer space type).

We've read that it's often the service people or cleaning people that are allowed entry to the property , that "might be tempted"....

We know our landscapers up here and our plumbers, carpenters, etc. as they all were born and raised in this town, but there is another element moving into our state to collect welfare.

Also, people on drugs don't care whose home they invade.
People who need money for drugs, ditto.

Anyone can drive through TV......as we've seen all the work trucks using the roads to get to the other side.........

Many times, the elderly are perceived as easy targets.

Hopefully, it will NEVER EVER HAPPEN........but BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.

We live in a safe state....probably one of the safest...and yet we all know not to let any strangers in.......times have changed, sadly.

Up here it's mostly small time thieves wanting to steal home safes and jewelry to re sell for scrap.........or lots of thieves are stealing copper wire right from homes.....plumbing parts, etc. They know the seasonal homes and sometimes are breaking into non seasonal homes when the owners are away at work or school.............it is scary but times are hard and people need $$$$$$$$$$$

43 years ago we thought nothing of leaving our doors open and the keys in our cars..........not any more. Most Vermonters never locked their doors. Those times have changed, unfortunately.

Our police are on the ball up here and give out regular warnings on what to look for. I can honestly say that our daily newspaper prints all the news, good and bad.
People need to be aware..........and they sure let us know. Glad my kids are grown up and on their own, with families of their own. Society has changed.

Again, we live in an extremely safe town and state, compared to the rest of the U.S..........but none of us have our heads in the sand.

Originally Posted by senior citizen (Post 578441)

I didn't see the responses the way it's mentioned above.
The ones upset found the "callers" to be the rude ones; not the other way around.

None of us would go out of our way to be rude to a "church person".
I'm sure we are all raised just fine.

The "authorities" have better things to do than respond to disgruntled folks having their doorbells constantly rung.

What I've said is that we live in a pretty big house and are not always by our front door........we could be on any of the three levels ....or we could be out on the back screened in porch or on the deck or in the backyard.
Every time the doorbell rings to an "uninvited guest" is a hassle as you get older. We don't run as fast as we used to.

I think this is boiling down to who likes to go around and ring people's doorbells to who prefers their uninterrupted privacy.........and the J.W. we get up here are a bit offputting........maybe not as nice as the ones you get at your place in TV.

Also, if you didn't answer the door, how would you know it wasn't someone you might like to see????

We're talking "uninvited annoying solicitors"..............soliciting something we are not interested in.

Just last night we were discussing how THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR we haven't got any local candidates coming to our door on Sunday afternoons...........strange but true. They came for years, handing out fliers or hanging them on front doors........

Also, as this is an "aging neighborhood now".........with all the little ones grown up and moved away..........we don't even get Girl Scouts selling their cookies anymore..........nor the little baseball players selling their raffle tickets...............we always enjoyed them..................that is a big difference from J.W.

Originally Posted by Cantwaittoarrive (Post 578009)

I don't answer a knock on my door or the doorbell ringing unless I'm expecting someone. If someone rings or knocks and I don't know or expect that they were coming over it means they are trying to sell me something. All the neighbors know my policy on this so they always call in advance. Just because someone decides to come to my door doesn't mean I need to answer

Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 578994)

I agree wholeheartedly. My wife is always wanting to stop in on our friends and neighbors and I tell her we need to call first. I actually take this philosophy one step further, in that I will not answer the phone unless I know someone is going to call me. My friends and neighbors all know this and don't call unless they stop over to let me know in advance.

Originally Posted by gustavo (Post 578994)

I agree wholeheartedly. My wife is always wanting to stop in on our friends and neighbors and I tell her we need to call first. I actually take this philosophy one step further, in that I will not answer the phone unless I know someone is going to call me. My friends and neighbors all know this and don't call unless they stop over to let me know in advance.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 578565)

They would print it. I get the paper every day here and the Police blotter is printed.

We live in an extremely safe town here. There are those who do not like the Sun for reasons I suspect are political...And they are very vocal on this forum.....

Originally Posted by Number 6 (Post 577448)

Oh, this gets better. A couple of weeks ago we called Community Watch to get them out of our neighborhood. We were told that CW could do nothing about it as they were not "soliticing". CW said that they could get in trouble if they said anything to them. Go figure.

Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 579159)

I honestly don't know much about the JW beliefs, my only knowledge is that people find them annoying and that they don't celebrate holidays. They've never come to my home trying to suck me in.

As a Cafeteria Catholic I'm a bit intrigued by the level of commitment these people have.

Originally Posted by Tweety Bird (Post 582677)

Ok, so here's the story. I used to be neighbors to Jehovah's Witnesses and they were the nicest people. If you really want to know what they believe, their official website is www.jw.org. So, the question is WHY do they come to the door? Because they are footstep followers of Christ. "And this good news of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to ALL the nations, and then the end will come." - (bible quote). They are not solicitors. They LOVE others and teach others the bible with in-home bible studies. They don't force anything on anyone. They are looking for sheep, not goats. There are many people interested in being comforted by the bible and want answers to things that are happening on the earth. If you are not interested, politeness is a kind thing. As a matter of fact, their magazines are pretty superb with up to date information about things that are happening. These are hard-working people who have jobs and are honest and use their personal time to care about people. To be sarcastic about them and mean is not virtuous and is not funny.

Originally Posted by Tweety Bird (Post 582677)

Ok, so here's the story. I used to be neighbors to Jehovah's Witnesses and they were the nicest people. If you really want to know what they believe, their official website is www.jw.org. So, the question is WHY do they come to the door? Because they are footstep followers of Christ. "And this good news of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to ALL the nations, and then the end will come." - (bible quote). They are not solicitors. They LOVE others and teach others the bible with in-home bible studies. They don't force anything on anyone. They are looking for sheep, not goats. There are many people interested in being comforted by the bible and want answers to things that are happening on the earth. If you are not interested, politeness is a kind thing. As a matter of fact, their magazines are pretty superb with up to date information about things that are happening. These are hard-working people who have jobs and are honest and use their personal time to care about people. To be sarcastic about them and mean is not virtuous and is not funny.

Originally Posted by Tweety Bird (Post 582677)

Ok, so here's the story. I used to be neighbors to Jehovah's Witnesses and they were the nicest people. If you really want to know what they believe, their official website is www.jw.org. So, the question is WHY do they come to the door? Because they are footstep followers of Christ. "And this good news of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to ALL the nations, and then the end will come." - (bible quote). They are not solicitors. They LOVE others and teach others the bible with in-home bible studies. They don't force anything on anyone. They are looking for sheep, not goats. There are many people interested in being comforted by the bible and want answers to things that are happening on the earth. If you are not interested, politeness is a kind thing. As a matter of fact, their magazines are pretty superb with up to date information about things that are happening. These are hard-working people who have jobs and are honest and use their personal time to care about people. To be sarcastic about them and mean is not virtuous and is not funny.

Originally Posted by Cedwards38 (Post 582736)

Outstanding! If the JW's came to his door, WWJD?