Originally Posted by rustyp (Post 2096709)

- Make upstairs of the new KB's a brothel .

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2096649)

Three is a market price for everything. When real estate is vacant for a long period of time it tells me that they are charging more than the market will pay and if they want to rent out the space should lower their asking price.

Originally Posted by mtdjed (Post 2096714)

But sometimes the market disappears, Consider Bass and Van Huesen in Lake Sumter Landing. They are getting out of Brick and Mortar.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2096234)

Hey I can be #1.

Wonder what the cost of changing someones vote is now.

Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2096733)

I certainly hope that you are wrong. It was on a historic tour that I found my new home almost 4 1/2 years ago. Removing a square that is convenient and assessable by those of us in the northern sections of TV would truly be disappointing. It would make the founding father roll over in his grave. May the powers that be remember the man that founded this piece of paradise and continue to honor his vision and the promises made when we purchased our homes. Adding a new square to the southern section should not be reason to take one away.

Originally Posted by RUCdaze (Post 2096722)

Just remember the name FREEMAN the next time he comes up for re-election. One bad vote deserves another.

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2096743)

Yes, vote’m . That worked a few years ago when two crooks were voted into the county commissioners.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2096746)

Did I miss the part where they received a guilty verdict? Wonder how much it cost the developer to investigate the three of them to dig up dirt and than figure out a way to take them out?

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2096748)

Fall back on the old “ whataboutism”. :sigh:

BTW, cutting a deal is same as pleading guilty.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2096679)

Someone asked what we think should happen, to "revitalize" Spanish Springs Town Square.

As the newish resident living in the oldest section of the Villages, who's lived in metropolitan areas, the suburbs of New England, and been to every contiguous state in the country, in urban, rural, suburban, and mountainous regions, who has worked for a town engineer and worked on zoning restrictions and issued zoning permits, this is what I think should be done:

(The same as what I proposed previously but here it is again):

The MVP gym moved to the Rialto theatre, with shops in the front of it dedicated to fresh, healthy food options - salads, simple sandwiches made with home-made breads and organic ingredients, plenty of raw foods that don't require cooking, a few comfort dessert options (such as fresh apple pie, or assorted tortes or strawberry topped shortbread, for example). Another shop within the Rialto-converted-MVP building could cater to exercise clothing and accessories - leggings, gym tops and shorts, yoga mats and yoga shoes, fitbits, etc.

Then take the MVP building and turn it into either condos or apartments, or a mixture of both, with amenities taking up the entire first floor. A small pool can be built where the circular drive currently is, out back, and the pool and first-floor amenities can then be considered a Town Square Rec Center. The parking area behind that building could be gated, so that residents have assigned parking off the street and away from easy access to theft.

Once that building has been renovated and vacancies filled, THEN add that 7 apartments over the old Katie Belle's building. And behind that building, section off an area for assigned resident parking, and build a modest-sized carport for resident golf carts. They can have access to the amenities in the MVP building as well.

Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2096762)

Where is the cannabis dispensary going to be located?

Originally Posted by michstrito (Post 2096779)

The residents, by a clear majority, do not want the apartments. We know it means the end of the square and we’re willing to take on the developer to try and stop it.

Originally Posted by michstrito (Post 2096784)

The residents are against the apartments by a clear majority. The commissioners should vote the way their constituents want.

Originally Posted by michstrito (Post 2096789)

14 spaces probably not a problem. But how about 90? Why is all the space above the shops and restaurants empty? Why has the theatre not been refurbished as they claimed? Why did the developer not send a representative to the town meeting on May 2nd to discuss plans and answer questions from an overflow crowd of residents? Aside from the fact that it was extremely disrespectful, it does seem they have something to hide.

Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2096804)

A Developer cannot sue to force a local governing body to change ..............

Originally Posted by michstrito (Post 2096790)

So, per the mayor, a majority of residents in Lady Lake are against the apts. Seven apts are a foot in the door. Think 45. Think 90 parking spaces. Think no more music because of town codes regarding decibel levels near residential areas.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2096754)

One guy ok the other has not had his trial.

BTW if one of the developers puppets was caught in a similar criminal act do you think he would have been removed from office before the trial?

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 2096843)

There you go again………

On another note you never answered the question which village you live in.

Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2096846)

So you are entitled to your opinion and I am not. Good to know.

We are near Lake Sumter. Not sure why you care so much which village we live in. You going to bring us cookies?

Originally Posted by donassaid (Post 2096804)

The law suit is a red herring. A Developer cannot sue to force a local governing body to change a commercial zoning into a residential zoning just to please the Developer. Just because they own the property is irrelevant. That's why there are zoning laws.

Originally Posted by Lottoguy (Post 2096886)

This is what rich people do to get there way! Should be a law to stop such nonsense!

Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2096898)

They can’t legally force a change of mind, but they can challenge the legality of their decision and attempt to have the courts overturn it based on interpretation of the zoning laws. More importantly, they can turn it into a war of financial attrition and force the other party to roll over.

Originally Posted by oldtimes (Post 2096841)

The majority never knew Harold Schwartz
The majority has never been to Katie Belles
The majority don’t even go to SS unless there is an event
A few hundred people is by no means a majority

Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2096923)

A couple dozen people were able to bamboozle the PWAC into spending what will probably be a million when it's done, on a 1/2 mile walking trail

Originally Posted by jmaccallum (Post 2096752)

I’m getting pretty sick and tired of hearing about the supposed woes of Spanish Springs. It’s a great Town Square! Look at what we got - a combination of nice shops and restaurants - so support it! Yeah, it ain’t Sumter and it ain’t Brownwood, but it’s ours! Down south, the average age is younger and they engage. Up here north, y’all are sounding like a bunch of grumpy old people! Katie Belle’s failed and it’s gone. Get over it! Seven apartments don’t amount to diddley-doo! 14 people living above the Square. So what? 7 parking spaces lost, that y’all never used anyway, cos most of you don’t come out and support the establishments we have. You just complain!

Brownwood is packed and over crowded now as the south people have no where else to go until Sawgrass opens. We got a unique situation up here as we’re too far to travel for them. We have a great Town Square in Spanish Springs! You’ve no idea how good we got it. So get your heads out of your butts, support the businesses and events in the Square, and enjoy it!