Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2312151)

If it was open for trappers to take them, there would be less. Perhaps only a few, Repeat as needed and overall it's safer.



Eating things like chicken, beef, pork, bacon, turkey, duck, ...





There are millions already there. There is no threat to the population by removing ones around residents homes.
In the entire area being under construction, there were no alligators there. No retention ponds either. Now that many have been built, alligators are there. Alligators were not first.



The topic is alligators. There are plenty of other ways people are killed. Drunk drivers, criminal gangs, etc. Please go solve those other issues in a thread about them, not in a thread about alligators.

There is no cost to us for this to happen. The alligator itself has value on the open market. Trappers would love to be allowed to come here at no cost to us.

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2312158)

I’ve had my say several times on this thread so let’s pivot for a second. In the decades that TV has been in existence, how many actual attacks have occurred in that period?

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2311581)

The problem could be easily solved by trapping any Gator 4 foot or greater in length and eating them at local restaurants.

Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2312174)

A couple that I recall and usually involving a dog getting grabbed. And only one that I am sure of. A retired lawyer jumped into the water with the gator and pulled the dog out of its mouth. National news. It was over by Sumter Landing on one of the lakes connected to it.

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2312183)

So in the spirit of fair play, we’ll include the fur babies. Sounds like an anomaly. Maybe more credit should be given to the developer. This clearly doesn’t rise to the level that some suggest. It’s TV not the Everglades . Don’t confuse the terrain

Originally Posted by Dusty_Star (Post 2312035)

The retention ponds should be cleared. Leave the swamps alone. The CDDs will have to hire or allow hunters to harvest the gators from the retention ponds.

The harvest will have to be repeated from time to time. It will be an ongoing expense.

That's it. I never suggested any nonsense about preventing reentry or eradicating the horrific reptiles, just reduce the population to ensure resident safety.

The reptile involved in the disastrous hand attack was a little over 9 feet. It was also NOT in The Villages. My opinion is that it should have been turned into shoes a long time ago.

This is not a single issue. Check the history. We have had this argument for a while. There are those who say: Leave them alone, they were here first, & those who say: This is a retirement community made up of older folks who are no longer as spry, fast, observant, etc. as they once were. Make it as safe as reasonable.

It will not be solved by a discussion forum. Just decide which side you are on.

Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2312147)

Far too many posters offering solutions to a problem that basically, does not, has not, and will not exist in TV, if the minority just learn to live with their surroundings, and learn to use a bit of the old gray matter!

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2312151)

If it was open for trappers to take them, there would be less. Perhaps only a few, Repeat as needed and overall it's safer.



Eating things like chicken, beef, pork, bacon, turkey, duck, ...





There are millions already there. There is no threat to the population by removing ones around residents homes.
In the entire area being under construction, there were no alligators there. No retention ponds either. Now that many have been built, alligators are there. Alligators were not first.



The topic is alligators. There are plenty of other ways people are killed. Drunk drivers, criminal gangs, etc. Please go solve those other issues in a thread about them, not in a thread about alligators.

There is no cost to us for this to happen. The alligator itself has value on the open market. Trappers would love to be allowed to come here at no cost to us.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2312028)

What do you figure? 6 feet, more or less?

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2312030)

Just for clarification.....TV at last count has 450 lakes and ponds? Correct me. You want the property, 35 square miles eradicated because of a single issue? Btw..should the developer assume the costs associated with said removal or don’t you think (playing along with this pie in the sky scenario) that they would throw another line item into your ‘fees’ to accomplish that fete....plus the costs for deploying TV border patrols to prevent reentry?!

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2312151)

There is no cost to us for this to happen. The alligator itself has value on the open market. Trappers would love to be allowed to come here at no cost to us.

Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2311448)

some of us just don't feel good about killing things. where would you move them to? killing them just because they are there seems brutal & cruel. it can't be done.

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2312158)

I’ve had my say several times on this thread so let’s pivot for a second. In the decades that TV has been in existence, how many actual attacks have occurred in that period?

Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2312640)

I bet there have been more people bites than gators bites

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2312682)

Probably correct. And people have such dirty mouths. One bite and you could die of septesemia aka cooties. Watch out humans. You are a far bigger threat to other life forms than they are to you. 😏😏😏

Originally Posted by cjrjck (Post 2312505)

You move them to any of the many marshes in central Florida. That is their natural environment not a man-made retention pond or somebody's backyard pool. I would prefer they be trapped. It's done all the time in the south. Many people make a living down here doing just that. But, if you needed one dead, that too is not a difficult thing to do. I would suggest a small boat and compound bow. Bow hunters safely dispatch hundreds of alligators every year. And most of those are actual wild alligators not the ones that grew up in small "neighborhood" ponds and have lost their innate fear of humans. I fish many of the ponds in TV and have seen numerous alligators that will come right up to you hoping for a handout. I assume by their actions that some people do feed them. Such alligators are potentially far more dangerous than their wild counterparts.

Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2312685)

Where can we relocate them ;)

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2312695)

Relocate? Who said relocate? I have seen the word "eradicate" several times. Wonder if they would mind if the shoe was on the other foot? 🙄🤔🤔

Originally Posted by Ele201 (Post 2312179)

Just curious, have you eaten gator? I’ve seen it on menus a bit in The Villages but never had it, not sure how it tastes.

Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2312717)

This alligator in New York was treated as a pet.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other...me/ar-BB1k3nwM

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2312718)

Yes. I've eaten it. My opinion, "pretty good". I've also eaten a number of things that many would shudder at or be horrified by. Have you ever had frog legs or escargot (snails)? Good food.

Originally Posted by LeRoySmith (Post 2312640)

I bet there have been more people bites than gators bites

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2312718)

Yes. I've eaten it. My opinion, "pretty good". I've also eaten a number of things that many would shudder at or be horrified by. Have you ever had frog legs or escargot (snails)? Good food.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2312682)

Probably correct. And people have such dirty mouths. One bite and you could die of septesemia aka cooties. Watch out humans. You are a far bigger threat to other life forms than they are to you. 😏😏😏

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2312729)

Don't think I've had frogs legs yet. Alligator was good and escargot is great but I'm a big fan of garlic.

Rattlesnake is pretty good and ostrich is amazing. I sure wouldn't recommend muskrat though.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2312731)

Unless you are severely immunocompromised, you are extremely unlikely to die from septicemia from a human bite, but you can get a nasty cellulitis or abscess. I'll give a hint as to the pathogenicity of bacteria in the human mouth, one main species is Eikenella corrodens---the name says it all.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2312732)

Frog legs taste like chicken!

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2312731)

Unless you are severely immunocompromised, you are extremely unlikely to die from septicemia from a human bite, but you can get a nasty cellulitis or abscess. I'll give a hint as to the pathogenicity of bacteria in the human mouth, one main species is Eikenella corrodens---the name says it all.

Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2313149)

I'll take your word for it! But what about "cooties"?
(Eikenella Corrodens sounds like a Russian gymnast)

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2313159)

More like a Russian woman weightlifter! You know----380 lbs., probably with genotype XXY. Today, we would suspect transgender and let them compete anyway :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2313159)

More like a Russian woman weightlifter! You know----380 lbs., probably with genotype XXY. Today, we would suspect transgender and let them compete anyway :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2311053)

Go solve those other problems. But that is off topic here. Don't hijack another thread.