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golfing eagles 03-15-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2311405)
Did you calculate that or was it just a really good guess?

131M tourists in 2019 with an average of eight unprovoked alligator attacks per year over the last ten years gives 99.99999% of the tourists are not attacked. The percentage is even higher if any of those eight attacks had been against non-tourists.

Did the math in my head

PugMom 03-15-2024 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2310964)
Nobody deserves to be attacked by an alligator, for any reason, no matter how infrequent that happens.
We have the ability to Mitigate = reduce the risk.

Allow trappers to capture alligators in ponds adjacent to homes without any regulatory hoops to jump through. No fee for a permit. Allowed during daylight, and any time at the request of PD.
Take one or take all. The more, the better.
It's safer for humans. Safer for children. Safer for visitors and pets.

If another one moves in, get rid of that one too. Eventually there will be a lot fewer near residents.
There are millions of them, and removing a few thousand living near people will not have any impact on them.

If only that one had been removed... a man would not be in the hospital. He and his family would not have to deal with the life changing amputation, the pain and suffering, and a huge financial problem that alligator caused.

respectfully,...even if you did that, there would still be some you missed. it's an impossible task, & easier to just assume they are there & act accordingly. it's not up to us to go randomly killing everything to suit our needs, -what would be left?

PugMom 03-15-2024 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2310943)
Arctic Ocean???😂😂😂

oh YOU!!! :loco:

Ele201 03-15-2024 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2311337)
More info about the victim. He was 52 and visiting from New Jersey.
Was warned to beware of the alligators. Did not understand that alligators attack unprovoked. Did not see the alligator until it was attacking him.

If that alligator was removed, this would not have happened. This WAS preventable.

This is why I don’t blame the victims when something terrible happens. People make mistakes, are not informed of a danger, or like in this case, he was unfamiliar with Florida wildlife and didn’t understand how gators work. So, my prayers are with him and hoping he will adapt well to his new situation.

I’ll take it one step further. I also can’t blame people who get swept up in riptides or get bit by a shark or drown while in the ocean because they went out too far. Should they have known better? Doesn’t matter and we all make mistakes.

But yes, we do have to be careful and we live in a world where danger lurks. Now everyone have a good day. Take care of yourself and others.

PugMom 03-15-2024 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 2311029)
Who ? In my opinion (as a Florida native who retired in Florida), I think MANY people in their right mind have no idea, or a very vague idea they may have picked up from movies (?) about exactly what danger an alligator poses to people and animals. If folks come from a midwest state, or plains, northern, etc. where there are no alligators, they have no idea, just as I would have no idea of the dangers posed by a moose, or buffalo (since the only ones I've ever been around were the ones raised by the Villages at one time...and, apparently deemed more dangerous than the alligators since many people sat their grandchildren ON the rails of the herd's pastures... or, perhaps the interest in and price of buffalo meat dropped. But either way, they disappeared. I believe the Florida wildlife department will still remove alligators if reported in place like the Villages, but perhaps no longer since I certainly see my share of them when playing golf. I don't like to be a "chicken little the sky is falling", but, I would hope people would let new comers know it is truly not a good idea to go looking for a ball you think landed very close to the edge of a large pond; DEFINITELY not along the right edge of #8 on Heron !

YES! remember that person who was visiting & walked their dog near water? it was maybe a year or 2 ago, & i'm sure that guy had NO IDEA he wasn't supposed to do it. education is key for visitors-you hit it out of the ball park.

bobdeb 03-15-2024 10:42 AM

Please be kind. This was a young man just visiting his mom. We are familiar with the area and fishing in the ponds there is quite common.

Gators are becoming more active starting this time of the year. Please be cautious.

PugMom 03-15-2024 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2311231)
But you wouldn’t be provoking them if they were not there would you?? YOU are not listening: more bluntly stated - eradicate, kill or otherwise remove every alligator within The Villages

some of us just don't feel good about killing things. where would you move them to? killing them just because they are there seems brutal & cruel. it can't be done.

fdpaq0580 03-15-2024 11:17 AM

IF! If only he had been there an hour later, or earlier, or the next day, or week. If only he was an outdoors man and knew about gators. If only he knew a little bit more about Florida wildlife. If only ----- ! Every potential accident in life can't be planned for. It is very sad a man lost his hand. His life will be forever affected. Also sad that an alligator lost its life as a result of fisherman's lack of knowledge or situational awareness. After the fact deciding to kill all the gators is a knee-jerk reaction that serves no one, and long term could harm/destroy habitat and the folks who live in the area. The message is, stay out of gator country or bad things can happen! And the gator will not be to blame. They have been programmed to do what they do for millions of years when, presumably, God was the only one around to supervise their behavior or alter it as He saw fit. Jmho.

fdpaq0580 03-15-2024 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy and Ed (Post 2311231)
But you wouldn’t be provoking them if they were not there would you?? YOU are not listening: more bluntly stated - eradicate, kill or otherwise remove every alligator within The Villages

You are not listening! You would not be provoking them if you were not there, would you?? No need to kill anyone or anything (except mosquitoes).

Justputt 03-15-2024 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2311359)
Wait ‘waste Titleist’? And then you advise ‘leave the ball behind even when you can see it?.....thank you for making my point. Btw, Titleist has bargain bins ;)

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Gator and copperhead areas, yeah, unless you have a LONG ball retriever, no ball is worth a bite by either!

d1nod1no 03-15-2024 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2310942)
Perhaps it's time to value human life more than an alligator ?
When will people get upset over a problem that can mitigated? Will it take a child to get killed?

American alligators were once threatened by extinction, but after being placed on the endangered species list in 1967, their population increased. This species is now classified as least concern. The main threat to these reptiles today is habitat loss caused by wetland drainage and development.

Inexes@aol.com 03-15-2024 02:16 PM

Read people, Read......
 
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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2311356)
Are you serious?! Do you know how many gators live in TV? So you now know THAT gator? The perp? Unreal

Did you read the post? You are aware that this did not happen in The Villages, right???
Everyone is responding as though this happened here...... it did not. It happened in a community in Leesburg.......

Shipping up to Boston 03-15-2024 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Inexes@aol.com (Post 2311505)
Did you read the post? You are aware that this did not happen in The Villages, right???
Everyone is responding as though this happened here...... it did not. It happened in a community in Leesburg.......

As these threads evolve, the supposition was about TV by most of the posters. “If they had removed the gator”! Didn’t know and you can include Leesburg, that residents know specific gators, amongst thousands, intimately.

fdpaq0580 03-15-2024 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2311510)
As these threads evolve, the supposition was about TV by most of the posters. “If they had removed the gator”! Didn’t know and you can include Leesburg, that residents know specific gators, amongst thousands, intimately.

I know a few gators. But I would never claim to know even one "intimately". Wink wink, nudge nudge! 😉😉

fdpaq0580 03-15-2024 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipping up to Boston (Post 2311510)
As these threads evolve, the supposition was about TV by most of the posters. “If they had removed the gator”! Didn’t know and you can include Leesburg, that residents know specific gators, amongst thousands, intimately.

Part of TV is in Leesburg, so it is just down the road. Almost like next door.


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