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jimjamuser 03-15-2024 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2311233)
OK, I get it. Another proponent of the Orwellian nightmare. Yes, "the government" will keep us safe. There was no significant crime in Oceania. The only individual responsibility was unquestioning loyalty and obedience to the state. No thanks, I'll take my chances with the gators (and especially the zombies:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::)

I wonder would a zombie kill a gator or vice versa. Maybe we should stock the lakes with zombies?

jimjamuser 03-15-2024 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jbellio (Post 2311317)
I lived in a community in Bonita and they removed any gators over 6 feet in length. I have seen some over 10 feet in ponds in TV while golfing.
I am in favor or removal... we have a nice community and I often have grand children down to visit. we can tell them about the dangers all day long but they are kids.

Exactly. And let's make that 4 feet rather than 6 feet.

jimjamuser 03-15-2024 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2311382)
About 5 years ago I tripped over the tail of a 7 footer on #5 of Caroline looking for my drive that ran through the fairway and into the rough short of the pond---my fault for not paying attention. That gator was very quick---set a new record for the 50 yard alligator dash---running away to the water. They simply aren't that interested in humans except in the circumstances I already outlined.

All animals. Especially predators are extremely unpredictable. 4 out of 5 might run, but the 5th one attacks from an unseen location. Even large animals in low or high grass can be practically invisible.

jimjamuser 03-15-2024 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by d1nod1no (Post 2311501)
American alligators were once threatened by extinction, but after being placed on the endangered species list in 1967, their population increased. This species is now classified as least concern. The main threat to these reptiles today is habitat loss caused by wetland drainage and development.

Which brings them closer to man.

jimjamuser 03-15-2024 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2311599)
Let me guess: A huge government bureaucracy could be set up to identify, trap and remove those gators, all in the name of keeping people safe (from their own stupidity).

Trappers get paid by the restaurants. Government NOT necessarily involved. It's the All-American profit motive!

huntervonmanley 03-15-2024 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Maker (Post 2311337)
More info about the victim. He was 52 and visiting from New Jersey.
Was warned to beware of the alligators. Did not understand that alligators attack unprovoked. Did not see the alligator until it was attacking him.

If that alligator was removed, this would not have happened. This WAS preventable.


Or, if he stayed in New Jersey this would also not have happened.

fdpaq0580 03-15-2024 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2311578)
The poor gator needs to be in a national forest or some wilderness area AWAY from dense people population. Both humans and gators have a right to exist - just not in overlapping territories.

The poor gator is slave to many millions of years of instinctual behavior. They move according to instincts. Mate according to instincts. They get food, protect their young, in general live their lives according to millions of years of instinct. They only exist in their current situation. Humans choose where they live. Gators don't know any better. If you remove all the gators. It won't be long until new gators move in. Less expensive and safer is to teach gator awareness. We are the ones invading their territory. As you said we both have a right to exist. They can't learn new behaviors. We can!

fdpaq0580 03-15-2024 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2311611)
Which brings them closer to man.

You've got it backwards. Gators aren't being brought closer to humans. Developers are bringing humans closer to to gators. The onus is on humans to learn the pros and cons of where they move to.

JMintzer 03-16-2024 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2311574)
In my opinion any alligator over 4 feet long should be trapped or shot and sold to a restaurant. The problem is that some dumb newbees to Florida think that BIG gators are cute. And some even feed them. That kind of attitudes end up with some adult without a hand or some small dog or small human ending up in a gator's stomach.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2311581)
The problem could be easily solved by trapping any Gator 4 foot or greater in length and eating them at local restaurants.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2311584)
After you ban fishing, you would have to ban all boats in the lakes and model boats and row boats. I think it would be easier to eliminate Gators over 4 feet.

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2311592)
You can't control ALL the gators, but you could control those 4 feet or over. The under 4 foot long ones could maintain the balance of nature.

Just to avoid any confusion... You're suggesting 4' as the limit?

JMintzer 03-16-2024 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2311610)
All animals. Especially predators are extremely unpredictable. 4 out of 5 might run, but the 5th one attacks from an unseen location. Even large animals in low or high grass can be practically invisible.

Terrifying creatures...

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Bill14564 03-16-2024 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2311867)
Just to avoid any confusion... You're suggesting 4' as the limit?

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2311869)

I'm still not signing up to hold the tape measure.

golfing eagles 03-16-2024 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2311869)

Yep, Cody Gribble was terrified.

Meanwhile, for JJ, it's not 1/5 of the time the gator acts in an unpredictable manor, it's 1/50,000. They are pretty predictable---if you have food, they might try to grab it from you, including any of your parts that get in the way. If you approach their young, they will defend them. If you get between a male and female during mating season, watch out (no different for humans :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:). Otherwise , they will run away from you as fast as they can.

fdpaq0580 03-16-2024 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2311610)
All animals. Especially predators are extremely unpredictable. 4 out of 5 might run, but the 5th one attacks from an unseen location. Even large animals in low or high grass can be practically invisible.

I am a moderate sized animal. It doesn't seem to matter how tall the grass is, the police always find me. 😏😏😏

Two Bills 03-16-2024 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2311611)
Which brings them closer to man.

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Shipping up to Boston 03-16-2024 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2311879)
Yep, Cody Gribble was terrified.

Meanwhile, for JJ, it's not 1/5 of the time the gator acts in an unpredictable manor, it's 1/50,000. They are pretty predictable---if you have food, they might try to grab it from you, including any of your parts that get in the way. If you approach their young, they will defend them. If you get between a male and female during mating season, watch out (no different for humans :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:). Otherwise , they will run away from you as fast as they can.

On that note.....the gators mating season in TV commences in April and hatching sometime in August. Save the dates


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