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Travelhunter 11-13-2020 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by oneclickplus (Post 1860160)
Neither is abortion but godless people say that is a right in the constitution ("it's just not in that document"). There is no way that anyone is going to force me to wear a mask when I'm outdoors (not in a building). You can demand rules for doing business in buildings. No government in the USA has the authority to demand that people wear a mask in public any more than it can force me to buy health insurance. "My body, my choice" as abortion advocates would say.

And, that position does not make me selfish or ignorant. That makes me an American.

Americans do not spread disease to others

xcaligirl 11-13-2020 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1860104)
My wish is for people to wear the mask correctly.
Why do people wear it not covering their nose?

or on their CHIN!

Travelhunter 11-13-2020 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrown132 (Post 1860231)
Where in the constitution does it say you have a right not to wear a mask. It certainly is no in the Bill of Rights. But there is a statement in the preamble to the constitution that states “promote the general Welfare”, which I think the general welfare of the state and country would be for every able citizen to wear a mask and social distance until this pandemic is over. I go crazy listening to people who state it’s unconstitutional when they have probably never read the constitution a day in their lives.

Very well said

Hiltongrizz11 11-13-2020 07:56 AM

You assume that all experts agree with mask wearing. They don't.
Therefore don't be so arrogant to dictate information that is wrong to experts and may be right to experts

Travelhunter 11-13-2020 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11 (Post 1860252)
You assume that all experts agree with mask wearing. They don't.
Therefore don't be so arrogant to dictate information that is wrong to experts and may be right to experts

??????????

ts12755 11-13-2020 08:00 AM

Stay home if you are sick, and/or have an underlying illness. Sumter County has the healthiest seniors due to our active lifestyle. A lot of my friends and myself, all between 65 and 80 y/o have had Covid with mild symptoms and treated at home with otc meds. The death rate is down 85%, therapeutics and the vaccine are here. We don't need a mandate. We don't need fear and control. We also elected EMS. Let families live their lives. Let them work and go to school. Stop being so self centered.

Indiana Randy 11-13-2020 08:01 AM

If masks worked, why then need there be social distancing? If social distancing works, then why wear a mask?

I can not support a government regulation that takes away our freedom.

If those advocating that we all wear a mask were enlightened with the actual DEATH rate from Covid-19, perhaps the fear would be less and more rational informed decisions would be made.

ScottS 11-13-2020 08:08 AM

When you and people like you, ruin our economy because of over inflated numbers, my company will be buying homes in the Villages for .50 on the dollar..... here’s the problem with your false numbers directly from health care workers... people come in and test positive, then they return every day to test until they test negative all of those tests get reported as positive tests, even though it’s the same person with the same original positive test. The death rate in the Villages hasn’t changed percentage wise from last year or previous years! The Villages is growing like crazy! More people equal more deaths. Common sense people common sense. Stop being sheep.

richs631 11-13-2020 08:09 AM

Speak for yourself. If your afraid, stay home

ScottS 11-13-2020 08:13 AM

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Singerlady 11-13-2020 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1860088)
Sumter County is home to the world's largest retirement community. Because of its elderly population, Sumter County is undoubtedly the Florida county that is most vulnerable with respect to the new wave of the COVID-19 virus. Fortunately, most residents are following the advice of the experts and wearing a mask in public places. Unfortunately, however, there are still a number of residents who are not-- either because of ignorance or selfishness or both. These people are endangering not only themselves (which, frankly, doesn't particularly bother me), but they are endangering everybody else as well (which does bother me).

In Sumter County, we recently elected a new slate of County Commissioners-- the EMS team of Estep, Miller, and Search. They have pledged to represent the residents, and not special interests. I personally know all three of the team members, and I did what I could to help them get elected. They are good guys-- smart, honest, intelligent, and experienced.

Here is hoping that the EMS team, who now constitute a majority of the Commissioners, will have both the foresight and the political courage to confront the COVID-19 crisis by following the lead of a number of other Florida counties and enacting an ordinance mandating a mask for anyone in a public building or at a public gathering. Who knows, maybe the other two Commissioners, who are generally described as “the Developer's puppets”, would support such an ordinance. After all, if The Villages becomes a COVID hotspot, it will put a crimp in the Developer's sale of new houses.

Many Florida counties and municipalities have enacted mask mandates. However, any ordinance adopted in Sumter County will have to be carefully drafted in light of Governor DeSantis's inane order suspending “collection of fines and penalties associated with COVID-19 enforced upon individuals.” Note that enforcement against businesses is not suspended; so businesses that don't require masks could be fined. Likewise, the enactment of mandatory-mask ordinances is not banned; so Sumter County could enact a mandate, with the fines and penalties “suspended”. That is, there are ways to attack the problem despite the DeSantis order.

In summary: COVID19 is the most serious problem facing Sumter County today. Let us hope that our Commissioners save lives by enacting an appropriate face-mask ordinance-- before it is too late!

Thank you for putting it so logically! I agree wholeheartedly!

Sailohio 11-13-2020 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ruralgoddess (Post 1860166)
Reasons enough to wear a mask:

1100+ Americans died yesterday

159,496 new cases of covid diagnosed yesterday

I hate to tell you this but 1100 people die everyday. The fact is the total number of deaths are less this year than last year. People DO die. It is my opinion that our community has been better than most at social distancing and mask wearing. According to the experts, if someone without a mask walks nearby just distance yourself from that person. You will be as safe as if they had a mask on.

Singerlady 11-13-2020 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Brownmoose13 (Post 1860092)
I have no problem with wearing a mask in public places but I am tired of hearing from all the "experts", none of which have any answers. Last time I looked there were about 10 "experts" for every person that has died.
I looked at the numbers for yesterday and there were 12 cases of Covid in Sumter County.

Here is the problem with the experts...this is very new virus! They don’t know EVERYTHING about it YET! They are making their recommendations based on their knowledge of viruses in general and what they have learned about this virus so far. I think we are intelligent enough to understand this. So, go with the flow, go with the experts recommendations, wear a mask which CANNOT HURT, and help your fellow family members, Friends and neighbors so we all can get out of this mess!

NoMoSno 11-13-2020 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1860115)
Totally agree, and don't put a single layer bandana over your face and claim you are wearing a mask. A mask needs to be a minimum three layers of tightly woven cloth, fitting tightly across both the nose and mouth. If it doesn't instantly fog your glasses, then it is either not an effective mask, or you are not wearing it properly.

You should get a better mask if it fogs your glasses instantly.
It's leaking...

Singerlady 11-13-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Brownmoose13 (Post 1860100)
So please tell me which expert you listen/refer to and please do not mention Fauci as he has been a pinball on the issue.
As far as 89 deaths (which are too many) that is about 1 death every 3 days, probably behind cancer, heart attacks, etc.
When one of your "experts" has a definitive answer I will then listen as it seems not one of the 217 countries affected has any answers either. Until then I am trying not to live my life in fear or by numbers since it is later than I think

I too, am not living in fear. I am choosing to make wise decisions like wearing masks and social distancing, follow what the experts are telling me about their recommendations so far and trying to protect myself and you. Please be part of the solution instead of the problem.


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