Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1860444)

I believe men have a right to give birth. We just have to figure out how. Why would you deprive them of this wonderful opportunity?

I like the idea of choosing your skin color I’m not sure I would have chosen “white” for myself at all.

And I like SiFi. During DaVinci’s time the idea of flying was SiFi.

As far as masks go, why not just put one on when you leave your house? Just like the way you put on any other attire.

Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1860338)

Sure makes sense compared to the "mandatory mask law" person who wrote previously. Good by Sumter County Hello China is what they mean. How many since the revolution have fought and died for liberty, freedom only to loose it to a tyrannical and irrational set of "laws" handed down by who ? Oh, a group of commissions ? Yes, always go to the most experienced medical advice before passing "laws" on others. Personally I CHOOSE to wear a mask when out shopping and dining; some neighbors do not. That is their personal choice. I certainly do not feel they are selfish or any of the other vile names people here in the V's call anyone who chooses not to wear a mask. I for one am really tired of the trashing of people that goes on here daily, saw an incident in Publix just three days ago, it was an ugly moment for such a "friendly" hometown. No RESPECT for your neighbors because you wear a mask and they don't ? NO, there is no respect for others because "others" choose to make them villains and outcasts because of their own personal irrational fears.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1860443)

People that HAVE to work outside of their homes deserve to have better testing and clothing than they do at present. The DPA was never initiated (blame that). That held back testing and put frontline workers out there in hospitals and other situations without proper equipment and at risk of CV and possible death. Yes, it IS a PROBLEM! Good to point that out. And good luck.

Originally Posted by lisafolker@gmail.com (Post 1860469)

You have the right to live your life but you don’t have the right to take mine. WEAR a MASK!

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1860464)

Having a right to do something is exactly what some on here are attempting to take away. :boom:
Being able to produce a child is a female thing, for a reason I'm sure. Maybe you think it is funny? Sorry, but I do not know of very many men that would choose to bear a child, even if possible.
And yes, I also realize that you are just being facetious. But, in reality one should face the truth and not attempt to live in a SyFy imagination.

Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1860471)

Your personal safety is not an element or function of the Gov. Maybe in a communist future America will get there. USSA?

Originally Posted by JanetMM (Post 1860233)

When you don’t wear a mask it is like you are playing RUSSIAN ROULETTE. And if you want to play Russian roulette go right ahead. Does not bother me. But when you play LET’S SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES ME TO KILL MYSELF and you keep spinning that gun around the room at different people as you play that is where we need to draw the line. Anyone’s imaginary RIGHTS end when they interfere with the real RIGHTS of LIFE for anyone else. Don’t pull the rest of us into your game of RUSSIAN ROULETTE.

Originally Posted by Pairadocs (Post 1860338)

Sure makes sense compared to the "mandatory mask law" person who wrote previously. Good by Sumter County Hello China is what they mean. How many since the revolution have fought and died for liberty, freedom only to loose it to a tyrannical and irrational set of "laws" handed down by who ? Oh, a group of commissions ? Yes, always go to the most experienced medical advice before passing "laws" on others. Personally I CHOOSE to wear a mask when out shopping and dining; some neighbors do not. That is their personal choice. I certainly do not feel they are selfish or any of the other vile names people here in the V's call anyone who chooses not to wear a mask. I for one am really tired of the trashing of people that goes on here daily, saw an incident in Publix just three days ago, it was an ugly moment for such a "friendly" hometown. No RESPECT for your neighbors because you wear a mask and they don't ? NO, there is no respect for others because "others" choose to make them villains and outcasts because of their own personal irrational fears.

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1860474)

I don't understand your point.

Preserving PUBLIC safety is, in fact, the primary function of government. Since the Florida state government has failed to do so with respect to COVID-19, it is incumbent upon our County Commissioners to act. It is just a matter of time before masks are mandatory throughout the U.S. It is only a question of how many more people need to needlessly die before our politicians act.

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1860473)

Yes I am facetious, poor hubby is cringing that I wrote the post. In fact, I am a mother and love it! But as far as SiFi goes we progress through imagination.

Originally Posted by sail33or (Post 1860455)

for those advocating for mandate to wear masks:

Exactly what death rate or daily positives will be acceptable for you to stop wearing masks and give us your permission????

Note: Any vaccine is only 90% effective and i promise there will be at least 20 - 40 % of folks that will not get vaccinated.

So there will always be some deaths and infections forever just like the flu. But what is your number so we can end this.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1860093)

What is the use of rules that cannot be enforced. Most of us are following all of the suggestions to the letter from the health authorities both Nationally and our own physicians. Any death is a disaster but deaths in Sumter County have risen very very slowly in the last two months, and I believe that is due to most residents being very aware of the risks.

Originally Posted by jaj523 (Post 1860449)

Is that 89 deaths for Sumter County? Or 89 deaths for The Villages?

Originally Posted by Indiana Randy (Post 1860259)

If masks worked, why then need there be social distancing? If social distancing works, then why wear a mask?

I can not support a government regulation that takes away our freedom.

If those advocating that we all wear a mask were enlightened with the actual DEATH rate from Covid-19, perhaps the fear would be less and more rational informed decisions would be made.

Originally Posted by lisafolker@gmail.com (Post 1860469)

You have the right to live your life but you don’t have the right to take mine. WEAR a MASK!

Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1860490)

You are wrong. You have the responsibility to protect your own life.

Originally Posted by ScottS (Post 1860264)

When you and people like you, ruin our economy because of over inflated numbers, my company will be buying homes in the Villages for .50 on the dollar..... here’s the problem with your false numbers directly from health care workers... people come in and test positive, then they return every day to test until they test negative all of those tests get reported as positive tests, even though it’s the same person with the same original positive test. The death rate in the Villages hasn’t changed percentage wise from last year or previous years! The Villages is growing like crazy! More people equal more deaths. Common sense people common sense. Stop being sheep.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1860491)

So if you come within 6 feet of me, not wearing a mask, I can shoot you? Awesome.

2A FTW

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1860304)

Yes, progress in vaccine is good news, but apparently it will not be available for everyone until the end of next year. In addition, it reportedly is 90% effective, which means that one in ten people (33 million Americans) who get it will not be protected. In other words, we will be dealing with the virus for a long time, and thousands of Americans will be needlessly dying because of the obstinate and irrational refusal of some people to wear a mask in public and the failure of some of our politicians to require masks in public.

Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1860494)

You most certainly can try. I would not if I were you. You would most certainly not fair well. Esp. since walking near people is not a crime that requires a deadly force response. Get a grip and read up on Constitutional law and FL Statutes.

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1860117)

Please go to the World Health Organization website. They have an extensive explanation of the importance of masks in containing the spread of the virus.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1860501)

If I feel that my life is being threatened by you walking too close to me, then I have a responsibility to protect my own life. That is EXACTLY what you said.

If you have a problem with me exercising my responsibility to protect my own life, then I recommend you not come too close to my person if you ever see me. Keep your distance, and I'll keep mine.

Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1860322)

“These people are endangering not only themselves (which, frankly, doesn't particularly bother me), but they are endangering everybody else as well (which does bother me)”. ————————————————� �———


WOW! Just as you feel so strongly about wearing your mask in public, I and all the neighbors and friends I associate with feel no need or fear to wearing a mask when visiting each other or walking outside. I had COVID in April when it was at its peak. Minor symptoms and I fully recovered without complications. I know of several relatives and friends who have had it all fully recovered with most with minor symptoms. All feel fine today. If you feel that you are that immune or medically compromised then wear your mask when out or stay home. Let’s get something straight. There will never be a time that any official will order me to wear a mask in Public. When will you realize that vaccine or no vaccine this virus will be with us for some time. 98% of people who get it will recover. I and my friends are seniors and lived through it chances are you or your family will as well. Again if your that sickly wear your mask outside or stay home otherwise stop the criticism of people that don’t think like you.

Originally Posted by Advogado (Post 1860088)

Sumter County is home to the world's largest retirement community. Because of its elderly population, Sumter County is undoubtedly the Florida county that is most vulnerable with respect to the new wave of the COVID-19 virus. Fortunately, most residents are following the advice of the experts and wearing a mask in public places. Unfortunately, however, there are still a number of residents who are not-- either because of ignorance or selfishness or both. These people are endangering not only themselves (which, frankly, doesn't particularly bother me), but they are endangering everybody else as well (which does bother me).

In Sumter County, we recently elected a new slate of County Commissioners-- the EMS team of Estep, Miller, and Search. They have pledged to represent the residents, and not special interests. I personally know all three of the team members, and I did what I could to help them get elected. They are good guys-- smart, honest, intelligent, and experienced.

Here is hoping that the EMS team, who now constitute a majority of the Commissioners, will have both the foresight and the political courage to confront the COVID-19 crisis by following the lead of a number of other Florida counties and enacting an ordinance mandating a mask for anyone in a public building or at a public gathering. Who knows, maybe the other two Commissioners, who are generally described as “the Developer's puppets”, would support such an ordinance. After all, if The Villages becomes a COVID hotspot, it will put a crimp in the Developer's sale of new houses.

Many Florida counties and municipalities have enacted mask mandates. However, any ordinance adopted in Sumter County will have to be carefully drafted in light of Governor DeSantis's inane order suspending “collection of fines and penalties associated with COVID-19 enforced upon individuals.” Note that enforcement against businesses is not suspended; so businesses that don't require masks could be fined. Likewise, the enactment of mandatory-mask ordinances is not banned; so Sumter County could enact a mandate, with the fines and penalties “suspended”. That is, there are ways to attack the problem despite the DeSantis order.

In summary: COVID19 is the most serious problem facing Sumter County today. Let us hope that our Commissioners save lives by enacting an appropriate face-mask ordinance-- before it is too late!

Originally Posted by Mardarlowe (Post 1860244)

Yet another mask whiner. Get into the fetal position and return to your basement.

Originally Posted by sail33or (Post 1860455)

For those advocating for mandate to wear masks:

EXACTLY WHAT DEATH RATE or DAILY POSITIVES will be acceptable for YOU to stop wearing masks and give us your permission????

Note: any vaccine is only 90% effective and I promise there will be at least 20 - 40 % of folks that will NOT get vaccinated.

So there will ALWAYS be some deaths and infections forever just LIKE THE FLU. BUT WHAT IS YOUR NUMBER SO WE CAN END THIS.

Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1860457)

If, big IF, the vaccine works it will be lucky to be available to ordinary TV Bozos by DEC 2021. Then only 50% of the bozos will even get it - so we are right back to HERE - where we need to wear our masks and stay away from people, especially inside. The vaccine needs 2 doses and to be transported at negative 100 degrees F. It is people that want to propagandize you that are giving you FALSE HOPE - because it suits THEIR purposes. They are in no way concerned about you in the least. You don't exist to them! Just think for yourself.

Originally Posted by Seve1 (Post 1860523)

Yeah the WHO, who are you kidding, they are a puppet for ChiComs , and have been wrong repeatedly. As well as Chairman Fauci. I would follow the suggestions of our governor. Calling the cops on people for their mask behavior is ludicrous. You people need to get a life. What you’re posting is insane. most people wear masks in the Villages. If you don’t feel completely comfortable with those that don’t, you should all stay home. Don’t try to dictate to the rest of us.

Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1860520)

If you do not wear a mask, then you have no right to go out in the public. If you go in a store without a mask, that would be attempted voluntary manslaughter. If anyone gets in my face without a mask, I will react accordingly. :boxing2: Shame on anyone in public without a mask.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1860491)

So if you come within 6 feet of me, not wearing a mask, I can shoot you? Awesome.

2A FTW

Originally Posted by Joe V. (Post 1860527)

You are going to stop people not wearing a mask to go out? There are no laws that prohibit a person from not wearing a mask in FL. Attempted voluntary manslaughter? The insanity of some people here is truly amazing. Well, maybe not.

Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1860530)

Not at all. You do not have to wear a mask outside in Florida, but if that is what you choose to do, then you must insure you social distance from me or you will take your own life in your own hands. I do have the right to stand my ground in Florida, and you would definitely be threatening my life.

Love. :pray:

Originally Posted by Seve1 (Post 1860528)

I think you need psychiatric care.