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Advogado 11-13-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chitown (Post 1860322)
“These people are endangering not only themselves (which, frankly, doesn't particularly bother me), but they are endangering everybody else as well (which does bother me)”. ———————————————— ———


WOW! Just as you feel so strongly about wearing your mask in public, I and all the neighbors and friends I associate with feel no need or fear to wearing a mask when visiting each other or walking outside. I had COVID in April when it was at its peak. Minor symptoms and I fully recovered without complications. I know of several relatives and friends who have had it all fully recovered with most with minor symptoms. All feel fine today. If you feel that you are that immune or medically compromised then wear your mask when out or stay home. Let’s get something straight. There will never be a time that any official will order me to wear a mask in Public. When will you realize that vaccine or no vaccine this virus will be with us for some time. 98% of people who get it will recover. I and my friends are seniors and lived through it chances are you or your family will as well. Again if your that sickly wear your mask outside or stay home otherwise stop the criticism of people that don’t think like you.

It is that kind of attitude that necessitates the kind of mask mandate that 34 states and the District of Colombia have enacted. You do not seem to care about other people. Look at your figures: if 98% of people with COVID-19 recover, that means that potentially 6,600,000 Americans will not. Don't you think that we ought to do what we can to reduce that number? Also, remember that the fact that you had COVID-19 and recovered does not mean that you cannot get it again at some point.

coffeebean 11-13-2020 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Garwood1 (Post 1860216)
I’ll listen to my Dr not one of the keyboard experts -period

And....what has your doctor told you to do?

Pairadocs 11-13-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1860091)
I don't see all of Sumter county going for mandates but I could see how there might be demand for a new contained "social distancing" village with strict rules on masks, 14 day in house quarantines for guests and after residents return from travel, stepped up sanitizing procedures, enhanced store/restaurant/pharmacy delivery options. There seems to be a market for this sort of lifestyle and the developers should take advantage of the demand.

Sure makes sense compared to the "mandatory mask law" person who wrote previously. Good by Sumter County Hello China is what they mean. How many since the revolution have fought and died for liberty, freedom only to loose it to a tyrannical and irrational set of "laws" handed down by who ? Oh, a group of commissions ? Yes, always go to the most experienced medical advice before passing "laws" on others. Personally I CHOOSE to wear a mask when out shopping and dining; some neighbors do not. That is their personal choice. I certainly do not feel they are selfish or any of the other vile names people here in the V's call anyone who chooses not to wear a mask. I for one am really tired of the trashing of people that goes on here daily, saw an incident in Publix just three days ago, it was an ugly moment for such a "friendly" hometown. No RESPECT for your neighbors because you wear a mask and they don't ? NO, there is no respect for others because "others" choose to make them villains and outcasts because of their own personal irrational fears.

Bill14564 11-13-2020 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1860290)
Hey, dummy....you have those freedoms BECAUSE of our government!

No, dummy, you have those freedoms because the Constitution forbids the government from taking them away. Periodically the government tries but eventually it is brought to the court and reversed.

I cannot believe so many people here want to give up their freedom to the commissioners, governor, or president! Do not ask them to run your lives, history shows they will gladly do it but not in the way you would like.

stanley 11-13-2020 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1860330)
So wait - if it's about forcing you to wear a mask to protect the public, it's your right, your body, your choice?

And if it's about a woman's right to deal with her own body to protect her physical, mental, and emotional health and NOT the public, it's godless?

Which is it? Is it godless, or is it my body my choice? If you're going to pin your "right" on the same right a woman has to handle her own body her own way, then it has to be one or the other. Either women are not really godless afterall, or you are.

Which is really worse?
https://pregnancylansing.com/abortion/methods/

Bonnevie 11-13-2020 09:43 AM

I don't know why mask wearing had to become such a divisive issue. it's unfortunate that the current leader of the free world didn't just advocate for it forcefully. we know his supporters are devoted and they would have been more apt to do it. many lives could have been saved and he may well have won re-election.

EviesGP 11-13-2020 09:43 AM

RING...

SCSO: "Sumter County Sherriff's Office, what is your emergency?"

CB: "This is Citizens Bank, and we are being robbed!"

SCSO: "I'm sorry, but all our deputies are backed up with mask mandate calls. But, can you provide a description of the suspects, while we make our way there?"

CB: "There are 3 men with masks on."

SCSO: "Well...FINALLY someone listens!"

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-13-2020 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1860282)
Why would The Villages be the only area in the US to self quarantine? Because we are smart. Because we care about others. Because we want to stem the virus sooner than later. Because we can. Because we could set a very good example for others.

As long as the "mask shaming" goes the other way around, the Villages will reject science. More and more people are refusing to wear masks inside crowded buildings. Most are still wearing masks - but the % of people wearing them is reducing, and the % of them refusing to wear them is going up.

The signs on the windows still say "must wear a mask." But more people are ignoring the signs and rejecting the stores' orders. Maybe they're the people who just never evolved beyond the "no Mommy I won't brush my teeth!" phase in their lives.

But there comes a time in life, when you have to just respect the rules of other peoples' property OR accept that people will give you nasty looks (at best) and avoid you entirely (at worst).

My aunt learned this, when she died alone, without a single friend, and most family wanting nothing to do with her. Why? Because she refused to stop smoking 3 packs a day, and when stores stopped allowing people to smoke inside, she refused to shop at those stores. Friends stopped inviting her over because she refused to NOT smoke in their homes. Family stopped going to visit her at her house because the brown film covered the walls and the windows and her house reeked of stale smoke, bad enough to make even a smoker retch.

If that's what you want to do with yourself, awesome. If that's how you want to be remembered when you die, have at it. As for me, I'll wear a mask inside any building that has a sign asking me to, out of respect for the establishment. And I'll bring one with me wherever I'm invited, in case they request that I put it on before coming inside. That will be even AFTER I get a vaccine, whenever that happens to be.

Uphillputt330 11-13-2020 09:48 AM

Certainly Should Mandate
 
Yes the commissioners should mandate masks!

I am not naive — realistically it is not totally enforceable but even if it only influences a few more people to wear them it is an improvement. One way to make it more enforceable is to require businesses to require masks of customers. I avoid businesses where the clerks and/or a large portion of the customers are not wearing masks.

Believe the science. It is not a big deal to wear a mask!

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-13-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by stanley (Post 1860341)

Not the question, and not the topic. Someone is comparing abortion rights to "freedom to reject masks" and claiming that abortion rights is godless. If you can COMPARE the two - then that means mask-refusers are also godless. Regardless of which is worse.

Either they're both godless, or you can't compare them. Choose one.

Nordhagen 11-13-2020 09:50 AM

Obey!!!

stanley 11-13-2020 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1860348)
Not the question, and not the topic. Someone is comparing abortion rights to "freedom to reject masks" and claiming that abortion rights is godless. If you can COMPARE the two - then that means mask-refusers are also godless. Regardless of which is worse.

Either they're both godless, or you can't compare them. Choose one.

Right...............you started it.............

kanoa1kale2 11-13-2020 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1860105)
How to "enforce" a mask mandate without fines or penalties:

Mandate it for any and all buildings that are open to the public, except AT tables in restaurants, mess halls, cafeterias, and in private stalls of public rest rooms (so you and the guy next to you at the urinal have to have your masks on. If he goes into the stall with the door he can take his mask off).

And if someone objects, they can call the police. If the police come they can order you to either put the mask on, or leave the premises. If you refuse - then you get arrested for trespassing. Remember all public places of business reserve the right to refuse service to anyone - as long as they don't violate civil rights. And you don't have the constitutional right to not wear a mask. It's just not in that document.

Many rights are not explicitly written in documents 244 years old. If you are that afraid, stay home and take advantage of the many options for having things delivered to you. We are slowly becoming used to totalitarian edicts from politicians and non-elected officials. This slow erosion of our independent thought is more deadly than the pandemic. Btw, if you are in a restaurant with recirculating air. removing your mask there is much more deadly than being outside. When you start dictating how I go to the restroom, you have way crossed the line. At that time, it's called anarchy and revolution time.

coffeebean 11-13-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Miguel 1952 (Post 1860219)
So if there is a mandate for face mask and social distancing, should there be also a mandate for vaccinating everyone?

Wearing a mask and social distancing are not invasive to the human body. I'm a huge proponent of wearing masks indoors in public spaces but I do oppose mandatory vaccination in adults. Having said that, before I set foot on a cruise ship (we LOVE to cruise), I'm hoping proof of Covid vaccination will be mandatory. I plan to be vaccinated before ever cruising again but I don't want to be on a "sick" ship and have to deal with the consequences of that.

Topspinmo 11-13-2020 09:57 AM

Here what the Chinese Method containment. Locked in you house, apartment, college dorm for 8 months and then claim zero virus numbers. Yes. It happening u tube China in focus News. Another thing I noticed none of the CCP has the virus? I find that strange Beings there are hundreds of regional leaders? Maybe they have an antidote?

It will never be contained in this country, only hope is vaccine. People will NOT stay put or apart. Another good example was the ND football game last week when crowd flooded the field at end of the game ( and why was there that large of crowd attending?) These are supposed to smart people?


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