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Wavy Chips 01-09-2017 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1344555)
As I understand it, the Clubs that are in danger are those considered Villages Clubs(sanctioned/licensed?) by The Villages. These clubs are allowed only to enlist members who are residents of TV. As such these clubs have access to rec center sites without charge. There are other groups which meet in TV that are not so sanctioned and allow outsiders to join (three Rotary Clubs ) for example).

Interesting point. Are Rotary Clubs and similar organizations required to follow ADA and RA laws?

Challenger 01-10-2017 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wavy Chips (Post 1345040)
Interesting point. Are Rotary Clubs and similar organizations required to follow ADA and RA laws?

Not that I have ever heard in 35 years of membership

villagetinker 01-10-2017 09:20 PM

Just checked the court log, and no update yet, on the appeal.

outahere 01-11-2017 02:40 PM

The court's opinion is now listed on the unpublished page:

http://media.ca11.uscourts.gov/opini.../201611122.pdf

I am not an attorney, but if I'm reading it correctly, it appears that the plaintiffs lost their appeal.

manaboutown 01-11-2017 03:43 PM

Apparent great news on the LLLC on the online source that cannot be named...

Carla B 01-11-2017 03:55 PM

Yes, the Plaintiffs lost their appeal in Atlanta, so the Resident Lifestyle Groups are not under threat anymore. The Ocala judge, Marcia Morales, who wrote the original order obviously did a thorough job. Still to be tried in District Court is the Charter School matter.

pauld315 01-11-2017 06:03 PM

Great news on all fronts !

villagetinker 01-11-2017 06:39 PM

Yes, this is great news. There was also great news from the VHA meeting. I have a suggestion for the VHA version of the Life Long Learning College, use the former site through a rental agreement. This greatly limits impacts to the recreation centers. I think we should no start a new thread on the NEW LLLC.

Wavy Chips 01-14-2017 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Carla B (Post 1345998)
Yes, the Plaintiffs lost their appeal in Atlanta, so the Resident Lifestyle Groups are not under threat anymore. The Ocala judge, Marcia Morales, who wrote the original order obviously did a thorough job. Still to be tried in District Court is the Charter School matter.

Do we know when that court date is? And where?

EPutnam1863 02-21-2017 11:11 AM

I believe the jury is now in deliberations. They have a lot of work to do as there are several issues to take into consideration for each of the plaintiffs.

EnglishJW 02-21-2017 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EPutnam1863 (Post 1363612)
I believe the jury is now in deliberations. They have a lot of work to do as there are several issues to take into consideration for each of the plaintiffs.

Did each of the plaintiffs have separate counsel or separate trials? I was under the impression that this was a class action suit.

Wavy Chips 02-21-2017 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by EPutnam1863 (Post 1363612)
I believe the jury is now in deliberations. They have a lot of work to do as there are several issues to take into consideration for each of the plaintiffs.

What court is this in? Will the verdict be published online?

If this case is to decide damages, anything short of a complete win for the defendants will leave the door open for future litigation. I believe the defendants have prevailed at every turn so far.

EPutnam1863 02-21-2017 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1345684)
Not that I have ever heard in 35 years of membership

In a nutshell, no club or private organization (such as HOAs) are required to comply with ADA and RA as long as they are not open to the public or nomembers and do not receive public funding.

EPutnam1863 02-21-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Wavy Chips (Post 1363698)
What court is this in? Will the verdict be published online?

If this case is to decide damages, anything short of a complete win for the defendants will leave the door open for future litigation. I believe the defendants have prevailed at every turn so far.

It is UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
M
IDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
OCALA
DIVISION
but I believe the trial is in Orlando. The defendants did agree that they should have complied with ADA when it came to LLLC, so this is what the jury is doing...assessing the damages the plaintiffs claim they suffered. (IMO, they suffered none) The Villages will need to watch from now on because the lead plaintiff will continue to sue. He is thinking already of filing a lawsuit regarding the speed bumps near some tunnel. Confrontational advocacy, not facilitative advocacy, is his thing.

ColdNoMore 02-21-2017 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by EPutnam1863 (Post 1363732)
It is UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
M
IDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
OCALA
DIVISION
but I believe the trial is in Orlando. The defendants did agree that they should have complied with ADA when it came to LLLC, so this is what the jury is doing...assessing the damages the plaintiffs claim they suffered. (IMO, they suffered none)

The Villages will need to watch from now on because the lead plaintiff will continue to sue. He is thinking already of filing a lawsuit regarding the speed bumps near some tunnel. Confrontational advocacy, not facilitative advocacy, is his thing.

And you know this how? :confused:


I'm just curious, given that you joined the site yesterday, have made all 7 posts about the LLC...but seem to know a lot about it. :shrug:


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