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OrangeBlossomBaby 09-12-2024 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Battlebasset (Post 2370029)
Why does a little white cross bother anyone? If it were a hammer/sickle flag I would look at it and roll my eyes, but I wouldn't get my undies in a bunch. You do you, I'll do me. Live and let live.

Are you okay with your neighbor's swastika on their front lawn? How about a pagan pentagram? Or a Muslim crescent moon? If you find any of those to be offensive, then you have your answer to your question.

Personally I consider the white crosses to be stupid. I'm not Christian. But I've read the old and new testament, along with several other religious texts. Nowhere have I read that a white cross on the front lawn was an important part of anyone's religion.

I've also read in the New Testament various statements to the effect of - if you have to advertise, you're doing it wrong.

Byte1 09-13-2024 03:37 AM

Personally, I have no problem with my neighbors personalizing their property, regardless of "deed restrictions." I am lucky that I live in a district that has very a very limited amount of restrictions and it does not bother me whatsoever. In my opinion, many folks that are "offended" by the little white crosses, have more issues than a mere violation of the deed restrictions. Many do not even understand the meaning/reasoning behind the display of the white cross in public. I am not going to quote the story that caused the issue to go viral because it is very easy to search the story on the Internet. For those that compare the white cross violation with the idea of displaying a swastika, or some other symbol that they feel one should be offended by, I don't easily offend. What offends one, may not offend another. Like I said, I like the idea of personalizing ones property. Maybe the new districts being built should set a restriction that all residents have only white cars and must park their vehicle in their garage after dark. The village of Valdosta consists of CYV all painted gray. Not my cup of tea, but the villas are occupied with folks that are probably content with their Navy base housing gray mimic. The next village on Tally Ridge consists of CYVs that consist of several different colors. C'mon folks, lets get it together....left, right, left, right, one two three four. We have a lot of nosey folks here, that seem to be easily offended by the actions of others. "But, but, but...." Some find it easy to rely on the old "rules are rules" until they break a rule or law. I find it amusing that we have so many easily offended folks in The Villages.....land of good neighbors....
BTW, I put a little white cross in my front yard. I didn't NEED to display my religious preference. I did it in support of the issue. And yes, I do know what I am supporting. Hint: Look up "White Cross Movement started in Frankenmuth, Michigan in 2008"

Byte1 09-13-2024 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2370099)
Are you okay with your neighbor's swastika on their front lawn? How about a pagan pentagram? Or a Muslim crescent moon? If you find any of those to be offensive, then you have your answer to your question.
Nope, those symbols do not offend me. It's a free country.....or it was.
Personally I consider the white crosses to be stupid. I'm not Christian. But I've read the old and new testament, along with several other religious texts. Nowhere have I read that a white cross on the front lawn was an important part of anyone's religion.
Other than the crosses being an inanimate object, what do you find "Stupid?" Just curious.

I've also read in the New Testament various statements to the effect of - if you have to advertise, you're doing it wrong.

Hmm, for someone that has also read the Bible, I know that there is also a New Testament instruction to go throughout the world and witness. Some folks do misquote scriptures conveniently, to support their opinion.

Rocksnap 09-13-2024 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Battlebasset (Post 2370029)
Why does a little white cross bother anyone? If it were a hammer/sickle flag I would look at it and roll my eyes, but I wouldn't get my undies in a bunch. You do you, I'll do me. Live and let live.

Rules are rules. If you let crosses in, then where does it stop? Everyone would then want their own “symbol” out on their property. Where would the line be drawn?

Rocksnap 09-13-2024 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 2370047)
The issue everyone seems to be ignoring is that any type of lawn ornament, be it a white cross or a deer statue, is that any of them need to be located under the eaves of the house. If these people had complied with this district restriction, they wouldn’t be in court today. This is not a religious issue. Rather it is a deed restriction issue.

Common sense prevails!

Rocksnap 09-13-2024 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2370117)
Personally, I have no problem with my neighbors personalizing their property, regardless of "deed restrictions." I am lucky that I live in a district that has very a very limited amount of restrictions and it does not bother me whatsoever. In my opinion, many folks that are "offended" by the little white crosses, have more issues than a mere violation of the deed restrictions. Many do not even understand the meaning/reasoning behind the display of the white cross in public. I am not going to quote the story that caused the issue to go viral because it is very easy to search the story on the Internet. For those that compare the white cross violation with the idea of displaying a swastika, or some other symbol that they feel one should be offended by, I don't easily offend. What offends one, may not offend another. Like I said, I like the idea of personalizing ones property. Maybe the new districts being built should set a restriction that all residents have only white cars and must park their vehicle in their garage after dark. The village of Valdosta consists of CYV all painted gray. Not my cup of tea, but the villas are occupied with folks that are probably content with their Navy base housing gray mimic. The next village on Tally Ridge consists of CYVs that consist of several different colors. C'mon folks, lets get it together....left, right, left, right, one two three four. We have a lot of nosey folks here, that seem to be easily offended by the actions of others. "But, but, but...." Some find it easy to rely on the old "rules are rules" until they break a rule or law. I find it amusing that we have so many easily offended folks in The Villages.....land of good neighbors....
BTW, I put a little white cross in my front yard. I didn't NEED to display my religious preference. I did it in support of the issue. And yes, I do know what I am supporting. Hint: Look up "White Cross Movement started in Frankenmuth, Michigan in 2008"

By your “reasoning”, then any symbol on display is fair game. Religious preferences be damned. This does not compute. Where does it stop? Perhaps a nice LBGTQ+ display in your front yard! Giddy up!

CarlR33 09-13-2024 05:31 AM

[QUOTE=Byte1;237011
BTW, I put a little white cross in my front yard. I didn't NEED to display my religious preference. I did it in support of the issue. And yes, I do know what I am supporting. Hint: Look up "White Cross Movement started in Frankenmuth, Michigan in 2008"[/QUOTE]

Ok, I did look it up and the initial movement was because someone “tagged” a bridge which belonged to the city with something that he wanted removed (justified). Second, as a citizen he felt the city should consider changing their shield as it was something that he felt needed refreshed (a citizen within their rights to request this similar to a company changing its logo). However, citizens felt offended by a citizen acting within their rights so they felt they should go against their rules by further displaying the same thing for their neighbors to see? I really do not need your “powerful and inspiring message for all Americans passing them every day” unless you’re paying for it on a billboard on the Turnpike (then acting within the rules).

terryf484 09-13-2024 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2370017)
So everyone n your village is of the same beliefs in white cross. Must be a dedicated entire neighborhood to switch beliefs to prove a point. My parents could not have allowed a cross no matter how small in their personal space.

Big issue about white crosses, but nothing said about political flags flying year around, some of them not so nice. If not crosses, then make home owners take down their political flags.

nn0wheremann 09-13-2024 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2370099)
Are you okay with your neighbor's swastika on their front lawn? How about a pagan pentagram? Or a Muslim crescent moon? If you find any of those to be offensive, then you have your answer to your question.

Personally I consider the white crosses to be stupid. I'm not Christian. But I've read the old and new testament, along with several other religious texts. Nowhere have I read that a white cross on the front lawn was an important part of anyone's religion.

I've also read in the New Testament various statements to the effect of - if you have to advertise, you're doing it wrong.

“There’s a Merrseschmitt on the front lawn! Somebody clean it up!”
—Rodney Dangerfield

Sandy and Ed 09-13-2024 06:07 AM

And, unfortunately, there aren’t enough police on the roads to catch some of the excessive (like 20+ mph over !) speeders out tgerr

john352 09-13-2024 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2369829)
Still tied up in court as I recall reading recently. And probably will be forever.

The home, in that case, is located in CDD-8. The homeowner is Wayne Anderson, who is running for a seat on the CDD-8 Board of Supervisors in the November election. Only voters who live in CDD-8 can vote for that office. Wayne's profile is available on the Sumter County Supervisror of Election website.
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GizmoWhiskers 09-13-2024 06:28 AM

Don't need a little white cross in a garden. Just "the blood of a lamb" over your door for if shtf again. Ifkyk.

Justputt 09-13-2024 06:37 AM

It's my understanding TV does not go looking for these things and only responds to the squeaky wheel. Thus, someone must have been offended and reported it. Rules are rules, and when you buy here you sign documents that say you will follow the rules. It's pretty simple.

Tomptomp 09-13-2024 06:40 AM

Little white crosses ?
 
I know the church places them to represent abortions recently performed. Whatever anyone’s opinion about abortions, it is probably not the point of the villages. If these symbols are allowed what will be next ? A hammer and cycle as has been opined or a swastika.
Maybe little white cross is inoculating but The Villages does have a point.

MrLindy 09-13-2024 07:10 AM

This is America.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Battlebasset (Post 2370029)
Why does a little white cross bother anyone? If it were a hammer/sickle flag I would look at it and roll my eyes, but I wouldn't get my undies in a bunch. You do you, I'll do me. Live and let live.

In America, we have a Constitutional Right to Freedom of Speech. Whether a White Cross, a Red, White, and Blue flag with 50 white stars, or a Grey Sandhill Crane...the choice & place of display belongs to the citizen. Look away if you don't like it. Sometimes it's better to say nothing at all.


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