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Originally Posted by Battlebasset (Post 2370029)

Why does a little white cross bother anyone? If it were a hammer/sickle flag I would look at it and roll my eyes, but I wouldn't get my undies in a bunch. You do you, I'll do me. Live and let live.

Drive through a community that do not have restrictions, or chooses not to enforce, and you will see your answer.

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Originally Posted by MrLindy (Post 2370190)

In America, we have a Constitutional Right to Freedom of Speech. Whether a White Cross, a Red, White, and Blue flag with 50 white stars, or a Grey Sandhill Crane...the choice & place of display belongs to the citizen. Look away if you don't like it. Sometimes it's better to say nothing at all.

Placing "white crosses" is not speech, in case you haven't noticed .... it's a "display". "Speech" is generally verbal.

& even if you have some constitutional right to say whatever you think you should be able to speak, you signed away that right, when you bought a home in TV.

If you prefer to exercise your supposed "right of free speech", perhaps you should dress yourself up as a "little white cross", stand on your front porch and scream as loud as you're able ... "I am a little white cross".

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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 2370117)

Personally, I have no problem with my neighbors personalizing their property, regardless of "deed restrictions." I am lucky that I live in a district that has very a very limited amount of restrictions and it does not bother me whatsoever. In my opinion, many folks that are "offended" by the little white crosses, have more issues than a mere violation of the deed restrictions. Many do not even understand the meaning/reasoning behind the display of the white cross in public. I am not going to quote the story that caused the issue to go viral because it is very easy to search the story on the Internet. For those that compare the white cross violation with the idea of displaying a swastika, or some other symbol that they feel one should be offended by, I don't easily offend. What offends one, may not offend another. Like I said, I like the idea of personalizing ones property. Maybe the new districts being built should set a restriction that all residents have only white cars and must park their vehicle in their garage after dark. The village of Valdosta consists of CYV all painted gray. Not my cup of tea, but the villas are occupied with folks that are probably content with their Navy base housing gray mimic. The next village on Tally Ridge consists of CYVs that consist of several different colors. C'mon folks, lets get it together....left, right, left, right, one two three four. We have a lot of nosey folks here, that seem to be easily offended by the actions of others. "But, but, but...." Some find it easy to rely on the old "rules are rules" until they break a rule or law. I find it amusing that we have so many easily offended folks in The Villages.....land of good neighbors....
BTW, I put a little white cross in my front yard. I didn't NEED to display my religious preference. I did it in support of the issue. And yes, I do know what I am supporting. Hint: Look up "White Cross Movement started in Frankenmuth, Michigan in 2008"

Well. Thank you I did not know what the white crosses meant so I looked it up

So the white crosses represent Christian nationalism. That this country was founded on Christian principles and must remain so. The Christian nationalism movement

And Project 2025 is the result and playbook

Not inclusive and very Scary

Lanai is considered inside the home.

The white crosses I have seen are nearly invisible unless you are looking for them. I find it humorous that political signs are restricted in some locations (in a window) but are allowed on a golf cart or car.

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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 2369813)

What is the status of the case of the villages against the house with the little white crosses. I know they owed a lot of fines but I thought they took it to court. I just started walking and in my travels along Bailey trail around sea breeze I have seen 6 or 7 houses with the white crosses. Some have them stuck in flower pots. The most innovative one was 3 crosses stuck inside the lani which faces the road but clearly visible from the road.

You got 3 pages of responses to add to the thousands already in the archieves.
Ad nauseam.

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Originally Posted by opinionist (Post 2370208)

Pretty simple, there is no deed restrictions against it. Plus the carts are driven on public roads.

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2370215)

Pretty simple, there is no deed restrictions against it. Plus the carts are driven on public roads.

Please don't confuse posters with logic, law and common sense.

little white cross

These single little white and plain cross does not bother us as long as they r in their lawn by house. What about over numerous lawn ornaments, giant seasonal decors such as Skeleton, balloon Santa, Bunny, ugly cactus, etc.?

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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 2369813)

That was an issue when we lived in TV 5 yrs. ago. If my memory serves me right TV said you couldn’t put anything out in the yard, it had to be back where your bushes are. To make it short somehow the homeowners don’t own from the bushes to the street. If I’m wrong correct me, not trying to make trouble but this has been an earlier issue.

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Originally Posted by Rocksnap (Post 2370126)

Rules are rules. If you let crosses in, then where does it stop? Everyone would then want their own “symbol” out on their property. Where would the line be drawn?

Agreed. First it’s crosses then it’s a giant ***** sculpture. There are plenty of places you can live with no rules or restrictions but here in TV we’ve got certain standards to uphold. Inside your house go nuts. Outside…..let’s keep things within the rules.

Joe

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2370065)

It's great to see that we weren't able to get through a week, without a "little white crosses" thread.

You can't have one! You signed a Deed Restriction that they are NOT ALLOWED in TV.

SIMPLE.

Depends on which district you live in. :oops: That’s a problem rules are not all same :wave:

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Originally Posted by harby (Post 2370235)

Don’t forget the bronze cranes. :beer3:

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Originally Posted by Bilyclub (Post 2370077)

How about reading and complying with the deed restrictions that you agreed to when buying a house in TV. This is not government overreach at all.

Totally up to interpretation. Most Christians would never think to call a single white cross a violation of any law, let alone call it a lawn ornament. Personally, I must question the morals of anyone who agrees that a single, small religious symbol is objectionable.

It's odd that they don't allow the little white cross but at Christmas time they allow all types of Christmas ornaments outside your house.

Personally I couldn't care less.