When judges start making their decisions not based on the law but on the reputation of a wonderful community, it is time for them to be impeached.

What is your basis for knowing this is what happened? I don't know that wasn't true but I certainly don't know that it is true.

I don't think that it's a question of making us safer. Imprisonment usually has three purposes. One is to get dangerous people out of society and make us safer, the second is to try to rehabilitate these people and the third is to punish them. Her sentence is punishment and as has been pointed out, she was found guilty of three crimes and is lucky to be serving her sentences concurrently.

I think that having victims impact statements is fairly common these days in court. The reason is that the damage to people or a community that some has caused should be taken into consideration when sentencing them. Just as priors is taken into consideration. This woman had a DUI, a probation violation and now this act.

Someone who commits a crime while on probation doesn't seem to have learned from their mistakes. I'm sure that was also taken into account in the sentencing.

And remember, this was a plea bargain. Imagine what she could have gotten.

Peggy did indeed damage the reputation of a wonderful community. If she gets into AA, gets herself a sponsor and works the program she will make amends in accordance with one of AA's 12 steps. I will not hold my breath but anything is possible.

If her family members got into Al-Anon they could learn about enablement and other behavioral issues as well as learn to cope with her substance abuse.

Let us hope there is no encore of the sex on the square event.

A person who is an alcoholic needs to go to a detox and then a rehab and then into a lifetime of a recovery program.

A person that commits a crime should go to jail whether they are an alcoholic or not.

You are correct in that alcoholism is not a choice. But committing a crime is. You should not be able to use being drunk as an excuse for committing a crime.

I agree 1,000,000 %. May she find the grace of God to help her long her path.

The reputation of The Villages was beginning to come back as more and more people were shown that that statistic was false. A lot of people worked hard to spread the word. This is a major setback for this community. Especially after the newspaper hack job.

Perhaps she needs some sex and relationship counseling, to boot.

That is so ironic when this mother of four, 14 grandchildren, looks at the camera and mouths, "I love you." Her one-legged husband is a saint, and how embarrassing for her family.

An utterly ridiculous sentence. There are drug dealers & thugs who get less time.

Thank You. Margaret Klemm has done a disservice to us all. Especially her husband and family. Do any of you think The Villages will live this down? The laughter has been heard around the world. She deserves to pay for the crime.

According to her son "Steve Klemm wouldn’t say what he thought happened that night, but added his mother hasn’t consumed alcohol since the DUI charge", Does that mean she was sober when ,according to the conviction, she was exposing her organs?

Maybe someone slipped her a pill or she'd had a reaction to a medication. Everyone is so quick to judge, you still have no idea what went on. It's between this lady and her husband/family. She didn't shame this community. This community has had its share of problems for quite some time. STDs, drunks, domestic violence, peds... The media just latched on and wouldn't/won't let go. It seems many have lived a VERY sheltered life or choose to not believe this happens EVERYWHERE. Mr. Usedtobe is long gone.

Ever hear of a "dry drunk"? -assuming she truly had not been drinking for a substantial period of time -

Urban Dictionary: Dry Drunk

The good news, she's out for December, perhaps she could turn on the Christmas tree lights in the square, I always felt the event would benefit from the inclusion of an organ.

I think that if she were drugged, it certainly would have come up in court. Mr Bobilya would have been charged with drugging her.

As far as her loving her husband and all that, I don't see where there is a conflict. This poor woman has gotten a terrible deal in life. Her husband is wheelchair bound and she was spending all of her timing taking care of him. She started to drink and it caught up with her. That's not to excuse the drunk driving or the sex act.

I have a friend who knows this woman. My friend's wife called her the day after the square incident. She said she really didn't want to talk, but did say, "I allowed my loneliness to get the better of me and I did a very foolish thing".

I can see how she still loves her family but was succumbed to the temptation to numb her pain with alcohol and seek relief in unhealthy ways. Again, this does not excuse her, but it also doesn't mean that she doesn't love her husband or her family. It just means that when the emotional pain got too great she chose the wrong path.

Having said that, she did make the choice and because of that, she will still pay
the price.

I feel very bad for her, her family and her husband. I also feel bad for our community which has ben damaged. But I also think that she is getting what she deserved and I believe that she does as well.

I hope that she can take this in turn it into a positive life experience.

Nice weather today, doncha think?

with the attitude she brought shame to all of us! which i dont believe, just because i lived in dallas i didnt shoot jfk!
yes this is the Bible Belt of justice! just look at the doctor that had his hands all over a woman , and he still practicing with zero involvent of law enforcement,, to me is more unsafe to go to the doctor than go to the square! thank you so much Bible thumpers!

this poor woman is a victim of the system! get some help and enjoy life here in " Gods waiting room"
the bait shack will always be here for you dishing out the juice of the devil!

Again with the studs?
 

I wish people would get their facts straight about this. Garbage rumor based on misinformation taken out of context from a book trying to enrich the writer. I'm so tired of answering this point and it's promulgated for sensationalism only.

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Oops, I edited my post to remove your name (not sure who said it as there have been a number of edited posts or maybe I imagined it?)
Yes, I am sure you can get into enough trouble without my assistance ;-)

I said something like that. Only that it might cause some troubling questions and emotions from the very young kids that sometime go to Old Mill Playhouse movies. And, kids visiting from CA and their parents may still be on CA time.

And I often get myself in trouble by voicing my opinions.

I wouldn't worry about The Villages living this down. The out of state people who have sent me texts or emails about this have been very good natured about this. It's almost like a break from the mundane for them.

Why do you say "might " have seen them.??? Couldn't a person just as well say, "might not have seen them ""??

88 ???????? I don't think so..

Think you are missing the point of why she got this harsh sentence. The sex was in a public place at a time of day where there were kids around or where these two should have known that there were children present.

I agree with the above posters, the punishment did not fit the crime, no-one was hurt.
I'm sure the family experienced embarrassment, however her son has written a letter in the online newspaper asking for our support for his mom.
It makes me sad to see so many judgmental comments. Why not try compassionate, as requested by her son.
Let he among you who is without sin, cast the first stone.

I agree. We don't have the problems that were mentioned in that post. It's ridiculous.

I would agree if this were her first offense and had nothing before. I think that the harsh sentence may have been because she did this while on probation. Courts don't take kindly to people breaking probation.

This sentence might just be the most compassionate thing for her. It might help her to get the help she needs for her problems and set on the right path. If they let her off with a slap on the writ, who's to say that she might not be back in court in another month.

We're not talking about sin here, we're talking about crime. If you apply the "whoever is without sin" adage here why not apply it to every crime.
Jesus was talking about sin when he said that. He was making the point that we are all sinners. We all do not commit crimes.


Forgiveness is one thing but not punishing people for bad behaviour is something all together different. People need to suffer the consequences of their actions.

I agree that the violation of parole was a crime and should be punished.
However on this thread, I get the feeling that people find Peggy's sexual behavior to be sinful rather than criminal.
Because she didn't hurt anyone.
And therefore I feel that the six-month verdict was over kill.

According to news reports, the Young man who robbed a woman at TJ Maxx had an extensive criminal record.
He put a woman in the hospital. He was out on parole the next day.

Peggy's son asked for compassion for his mom.
I'd like to think we are a compassionate community.

Kids visiting from Tokyo may also still be on Tokyo time. Oh, never mind. Then it would be tomorrow.

Could someone answer this for me: I thought the square was private property? Belongs to TV. Did (or should) this have any bearing on the crime? For example I would think that if I left my windows open with the lights on in my home and let anyone see a sexual activity, is that a crime?

I'm joking of course but I'm just curious about the jurisdiction rights of public safety officers who 'patrol' the squares.

I feel bad for the Klemm family...Not so much for Ms Klemm...sounds harsh I know .

I don't know if the sentence in this case is reasonable according to the law or not, but let me tell you what I do know.

I have attended al anon meetings for over 30 years. I know about Alcoholism. I know about Alcoholics. I have known and loved a few. I imagine we all have had an addict somewhere close to us in our lives. I know that some experts think alcoholism is a disease and some do not. I really don't know what I think, but here is what I DO know. Addiction causes diseases like high blood pressure, heart trouble, liver disease and the list goes on. Addiction causes broken people, broken homes and broken relationships. Addictions cost a lot of money, not just to the addict but to our entire economy.

I also know about being an enabler. I have been one but not so much any more. I know that addicts don't need sympathy. Sympathy only enables them. Addicts don't need excuses made for them. Making excuses for them only enables the behavior. Addicts don't need sympathy.......they need tough love. If you are an enabler, you are part of the problem.

Well said! I hope this period of incarceration helps both parties straighten out their lives.

I suppose there could be some kids visiting from Tokyo to the Villages. There sure are those visiting Orlando. Maybe, they took a wrong turn somewhere?

It's now on Youtube
Grandma Will Spend 6 Months In Jail For Public Sex

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=RbOwSN5ji1A

The story made it on " Drudge Report". It has a link to the story on "The Smoking Gun".

When you type, I read. I have found you to be thoughtful, reasonable and very kind. People like you make this forum helpful to people like me. I understand exactly what you are saying. I appreciate you telling us this. I hope it will be helpful to others.

100% correct. Also the same with gamblers. They are enabled by family members that make excuses for them. They try to get over on other people people too. When their options start to run dry, they become con artists.

The only way for them to get help is to get tough love and hit rock bottom. Only then, they have a chance to redeem themselves, to become productive members of society.

Peggy seems to have some deep rooted problems that need professional help.
Until she accepts her actions into what her consequences will be, then she will at least have a chance for recovery. Getting a DUI once is not good, but to be drunk two weeks after is stupidity. Stupid is, as stupid does.

Getting the police involved three times for her behavior, cannot be excused by her family or others.

No excuses, just results is what she needs to do. Do the right thing!!!!