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thelegges 09-07-2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1679388)
That's a whole different story...than what the OP is whining about.

Personally, I would have been tempted to race her back to her cart, grab her keys...then call the cops.

This person has been noticed in our neighborhood more than once. She was apparently looking at our landscaping which is next to our windows, and around our lanai. We have some whiteish bark plants, that flowers once a year. Our neighbor said she is looking for white crosses, and could not get to them without going thru our yard.
Since she set off all 4 of my cameras, it’s not paranoia, it’s gotten out of hand that she needs to walk around your home to see what one may be hiding in your flowers.
I get the deed restrictions, but for the traveling self proclaimed Creepy lady, she is going to get a rude awaking from someone one day.

Villageswimmer 09-07-2019 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1679332)
She has a pet peeve about "little white crosses" and American Flags on the lawn--those where the only houses she stopped at.


This flies in the face of the poster who alleges a woman looking in her windows, etc. could there be more than one SNOOP?

The plot thickens...

npwalters 09-07-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1679339)
+1. While I never had strong feelings one way or the other with respect to anonymous violation reporting, I sure do understand the reason for it now and fully support the concept.

I hope the TV powers that be read this thread and never change the policy. We don’t need self-appointed vigilantes.

If I were stopped by someone and asked what I’m doing, I’d have some choice words, and if that person started videoing me, I’d call the Sheriff.

Maybe the heat got to the OP. We can only hope.

One has no right to absolute privacy when on a public street. It is entirely legal to photo/video anyone when in that venue. Calling the sheriff would accomplish nothing except taking them away from their critical tasks.

thelegges 09-07-2019 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 1679377)
Paranoia is beginning to set in, really?

Be happy to send her to your home and then you can choose if a weird person walking around your home is paranoia. My hope is she picks the house where that 100 pound dog comes out to protect their space. Since my security picked up her movements, from the front of our home up the drive, down the side of our home between houses, and then walking around our lanai, looking in the beds, I don’t have to make it up. It’s all there in color and her face all the video is very clear

Velvet 09-07-2019 06:14 PM

Yes, when I was house shopping we had a short time only and drove through most of TV so hubby could choose an area he liked. I went around many properties first. Not looking inside just to see if there were fences or how big the property was in order to see if we wanted an agent to show the house to us. On one property a lady came out leaving her barking dogs inside. I saw a shotgun too but she did not point it. I remember thanking her for that and mentioning that I was looking at her property to buy. She invited us in and told us her plans to move to the new area etc.

I gave up looking at houses that way, the grass was too painful to walk on in sandals anyways.

Barefoot 09-07-2019 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by FenneyFanatic (Post 1679389)
Why can’t grown up people simply follow the rules as they agreed when they purchased their home??

I have no idea why grown up people have so much difficulty with deed restrictions.
No need for complaints, anonymous or otherwise, if everyone adhered to the rules they agreed to when they purchased their home.

seoulbrooks 09-07-2019 06:16 PM

Audio recording without permission will get you in deep trouble in Florida. deed restrictions were hopefully read before signing. It is not about crosses or other yard fixtures, it is about rules.

If the lady is trespassing or peeking in windows that is a different problem. Walking on a public street taking notes is her right.

Villageswimmer 09-07-2019 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1679395)
Be happy to send her to your home and then you can choose if a weird person walking around your home is paranoia. My hope is she picks the house where that 100 pound dog comes out to protect their space. Since my security picked up her movements, from the front of our home up the drive, down the side of our home between houses, and then walking around our lanai, looking in the beds, I don’t have to make it up. It’s all there in color and her face all the video is very clear


What did the Sheriff say?

Velvet 09-07-2019 06:36 PM

If she had an acceptable reason for doing what she did, she would have said it.

As it is, the police should have a copy of your camera’s video. (I’m talking about the one looking inside.)

Bowtorc 09-07-2019 06:38 PM

I think that people driving around doing this have another agenda than deed restrictions. I would have stopped her and asked about what she was doing. I have had my home broken into and am always suspicious of something like this. Never hurts to ask !

Trayderjoe 09-07-2019 06:47 PM

Was the woman on the PUBLIC street or on private property? Maybe she was noting covenant compliance violations, or maybe she was checking out different landscaping for ideas for her property. Maybe she is doing a home appraisal and is making notes about the condition of the home and property. We had our home appraised for a refinance and not only did she take notes, but she even took photos of the property. If she is on a public street and taking notes, that may not be enough to warrant asking her about what she is doing. How many women, by themselves on a public street, would feel comfortable with a stranger approaching her asking her of her business? If she was using binoculars to appear to be looking in windows, well that would reasonably considered to be suspicious, but then, why not call the police or at least Community Watch and let them handle it? If she is actually on your property, you have every right to ask her to leave. If she was on private property looking into windows, the call that should be made is to the police. You could make that video of her and show that to the police when they arrive on the scene. She could then explain to them what is going on.

I have no sympathy for anyone reported for violating a covenant that they AGREED TO when they bought their home. There is a process that was set up to seek official approval for changes/additions that are potentially desired. Should one choose to not follow the process (which also doesn't guarantee approval), then they basically are crossing their fingers that a violation report doesn't get filed. Just because someone was violating their covenants for years without being reported doesn't entitle them to get a free pass. We are after all, an advanced age community, which means that homes on average will turnover faster than in non-age restricted communities. There may be new neighbors who may not be of the same opinion on the "tasteful aspects" of yard decorations that are violations.

I readily admit that the covenants are one of the reasons we chose to live here. No one held a gun to our head when we signed the paperwork and agreed to comply with the covenants, and I have yet to hear that such drastic measures have ever been needed to make a sale in the Villages. If the covenants are personally too restrictive, why not sell and move out of the Villages to a home without covenants or homeowner associations? Or, even better, just say NO and don't buy here.

EdFNJ 09-07-2019 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1679394)
One has no right to absolute privacy when on a public street. It is entirely legal to photo/video anyone when in that venue. ---clip---

Yes, absolutely correct, but not (IN FL) to record and share a conversation (if any) one has with a person on a public street without their explicit permission.

Barefoot 09-07-2019 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by npwalters (Post 1679394)
One has no right to absolute privacy when on a public street. It is entirely legal to photo/video anyone when in that venue.

I don't understand.
If one has a right to absolute privacy on a public street, wouldn't photographing someone mean a lack of privacy?

tophcfa 09-07-2019 07:15 PM

With all the fun things to do in the Villages, even the longest days of the year are way too short. It is beyond my imagination how someone could be so pathetic that they choose to wast their time driving around neighborhoods with a clipboard recording deed restriction violations when it is not their job?

manaboutown 09-07-2019 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thelegges (Post 1679359)
Hummm had a women last week walking through our property. I was sitting on lanai, asked what she was doing, I startled her, she said she didn’t she me sitting there. And quickly left to her awaiting cart.

What gives anyone the right to snoop around my windows or lanai. Or I could look at she is looking for a way into my home. Now you want creepy that’s creepy. If she is looking for compliance issues, this is way over the top. Plus she is now on all of my cameras.

She could be legally shot as a burglar for crossing the curtilage in some parts of the country. Curtilage - Wikipedia

coffeebean 09-07-2019 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 1679420)
I don't understand.
If one has a right to absolute privacy on a public street, wouldn't photographing someone mean a lack of privacy?

The statement was "One has NO right......"

JoMar 09-07-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1679423)
With all the fun things to do in the Villages, even the longest days of the year are way too short. It is beyond my imagination how someone could be so pathetic that they choose to wast their time driving around neighborhoods with a clipboard recording deed restriction violations when it is not their job?

Well, actually it's all our job.

tophcfa 09-07-2019 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JoMar (Post 1679439)
Well, actually it's all our job.

Not if you don't get paid for it!

I agree it is all our jobs to report BLATANT and OBVIOUS deed restrictions in our IMMEDIATE neighborhood. But it is not our jobs to travel throughout the Villages with the sole intention of finding any nit picking little thing to report. Get a life!

Yung Dum 09-07-2019 09:22 PM

I'm selling torches and pitchforks to anyone interested.

the square 09-07-2019 09:26 PM

Please , please, please post it on a Villages group on fb. PM me and I'll post it myself..

EdFNJ 09-07-2019 09:29 PM

Maybe this person who is "snooping" was tagged for a violation and is trying to find examples to appeal her violation based on other untagged similar violations?

That being said she has absolutely no right to trespass on anyone's property without their permission. She should be told to get off or the police will be called. There was a guy in a SUV in front of our house a couple weeks ago taking photos. My wife and I approached him and he was a rep for a title company taking photos of homes 1 and 2 houses away from a property that was just sold. He provided ID and never left his vehicle.

BobnBev 09-07-2019 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1679264)
I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone

You are now promoted to Detective 1st class, and you get the substantial pay raise that goes with it.:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

Topspinmo 09-07-2019 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1679264)
I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone

Good job! :bigbow::bigbow:

manaboutown 09-07-2019 10:44 PM

Why not follow her home, video and review her yard with a fine tooth comb. Then report any violations, no matter how minor.

Topspinmo 09-07-2019 10:44 PM

Amazing stalker is now hero of compliance. I still say good job chatbrat for being observant to what going on in you’re village.

Madelaine Amee 09-08-2019 06:56 AM

I KNOW we all signed this, that and the other to live here, but I really dislike the idea of someone (with nothing better to do) going around with a clip board looking for violations. What may be a violation to her, maybe a piece of yard art that I have had for years and has memories for me. I am not talking about putting an elephant in the middle of the yard, but a small piece of yard art in a flower bed is certainly not a problem for me.

I guess the bottom line for me is that I do not like nosy old snoops. Reminds me of my grandmother who used to sit behind lace curtains to watch what the neighbors were doing. I loved the old girl, but what a miserable habit.

Bay Kid 09-08-2019 06:58 AM

Pictures? She needs something positive to do.

Arctic Fox 09-08-2019 07:02 AM

Why don't we just rename The Villages as "Salem" and be done with it?

collie1228 09-08-2019 07:05 AM

Myob

600th Photo Sq 09-08-2019 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1679264)
I live in Tamarind Grove, spotted a woman riding around with a clip board-she stopped in front of several residences. The residences had lawn ornaments , one of them had a little white cross-I followed and asked her what she was doing-she said she was on a scavenger hunt.

If my neighbors get a visit from community standards--I got a good description of her & her golf cart + a video on my phone

The Villages is a Deed Restricted Community. We follow the rules and expect others to do the same.

As for the person jotting down and taking notes, I call that nothing more than going the extra mile to remind others who choose to " Stray " from the rules that there are consequences.

The rules are crystal clear and super easy to follow. I am baffled when individuals get annoyed and in some way feel slighted when they get a notice that whatever rule that they broke needs to be corrected.

Your post is troubling and obvious that keeping the person (s) identity " Anonymous " is necessary.

Chatbrat 09-08-2019 07:07 AM

This person has made life miserable for people in other villages, recently a person had to remove a $600.00 piece of art work, which was barely visible, she is migrating south, after Tamarind Grove who will be next--again she hates American flags--every place she stopped at had an American flag-kinda shoots down her scavenger hunt story--by the way my cell phone pictures are gone, forgot to save them

Going to warn my neighbors to remove their stuff, for a few weeks , then when community watch comes buy their will be nothing for them to see

graciegirl 09-08-2019 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1679508)
This person has made life miserable for people in other villages, recently a person had to remove a $600.00 piece of art work, which was barely visible, she is migrating south, after Tamarind Grove who will be next--again she hates American flags--every place she stopped at had an American flag-kinda shoots down her scavenger hunt story--by the way my cell phone pictures are gone, forgot to save them

Going to warn my neighbors to remove their stuff, for a few weeks , then when community watch comes buy their will be nothing for them to see

How do YOU know these things? I didn't think Community Watch had anything to do with deed restrictions. As Judge Judy would say, How do you know what she hates? I think you are warming to the subject, fella.

Bogie Shooter 09-08-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1679508)
This person has made life miserable for people in other villages, recently a person had to remove a $600.00 piece of art work, which was barely visible, she is migrating south, after Tamarind Grove who will be next--again she hates American flags--every place she stopped at had an American flag-kinda shoots down her scavenger hunt story--by the way my cell phone pictures are gone, forgot to save them

Going to warn my neighbors to remove their stuff, for a few weeks , then when community watch comes buy their will be nothing for them to see

Sure a lot of assumptions here:
people in other villages...how do you know?
she hates American flags....how do you know?
community watch.....has nothing to do with deed compliance.

Chatbrat 09-08-2019 09:06 AM

Sorry should have said-community standards--she was sighted in Buttonwood doing the same thing, a friend of mine mentioned her cart, on the unnamed news sight American flags have beed mentioned as victims of anonymous complaints

Villageswimmer 09-08-2019 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1679508)
This person has made life miserable for people in other villages, recently a person had to remove a $600.00 piece of art work, which was barely visible, she is migrating south, after Tamarind Grove who will be next--again she hates American flags--every place she stopped at had an American flag-kinda shoots down her scavenger hunt story--by the way my cell phone pictures are gone, forgot to save them

Going to warn my neighbors to remove their stuff, for a few weeks , then when community watch comes buy their will be nothing for them to see


OTOH, maybe she LOVES American flags and is developing a coffee table book of her photos. This whole thing is preposterous. And now you don’t have your photos. SMH.

Chi-Town 09-08-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Villageswimmer (Post 1679569)
OTOH, maybe she LOVES American flags and is developing a coffee table book of her photos. This whole thing is preposterous. And now you don’t have your photos. SMH.

OPsaid that he didn't save his photos and they're gone. Strange, because when you take a picture on a smart phone it goes into photo file where you have to delete it, and it goes into a trash file which you have to empty.

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Chatbrat 09-08-2019 09:23 AM

I don't have smart phone, refuse to be a smart phone zombie- I use my phone for just calls

Chi-Town 09-08-2019 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chatbrat (Post 1679578)
I don't have smart phone, refuse to be a smart phone zombie- I use my phone for just calls

OK, just curious how your cell phone pictures disappeared. Now I know.

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Chatbrat 09-08-2019 09:34 AM

Forgot to hit the save button,

New Englander 09-08-2019 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 1679502)
I KNOW we all signed this, that and the other to live here, but I really dislike the idea of someone (with nothing better to do) going around with a clip board looking for violations. What may be a violation to her, maybe a piece of yard art that I have had for years and has memories for me. I am not talking about putting an elephant in the middle of the yard, but a small piece of yard art in a flower bed is certainly not a problem for me.

I guess the bottom line for me is that I do not like nosy old snoops. Reminds me of my grandmother who used to sit behind lace curtains to watch what the neighbors were doing. I loved the old girl, but what a miserable habit.

:agree:


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