Originally Posted by boxcarwilly (Post 1900410)

IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf.:MOJE_whot: I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.

Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1900582)

You're thinking like it's okay to take a right from the left lane is what causes accidents. The inner lane is not the "straight" lane. That would ONLY work if the right lane entering the roundabout HAD to take the first exit. They don't have to take the 1st exit.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1900427)

Yes, but the blue car at the top SHOULD NOT EVEN CONSIDER ENTERING THE RB until traffic in both lanes has cleared. He may intend to turn into the first exit in the outer lane, but the car in the RB already may have come from the first entrance to his left and intend to (legally) go straight to the same exit

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1900427)

Yes, but the blue car at the top SHOULD NOT EVEN CONSIDER ENTERING THE RB until traffic in both lanes has cleared. He may intend to turn into the first exit in the outer lane, but the car in the RB already may have come from the first entrance to his left and intend to (legally) go straight to the same exit

Originally Posted by Hiltongrizz11 (Post 1900805)

WRONG! Nobody should stop

Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1900823)

You hit the nail on the head, these roundabouts are way too small to work correctly and the speed of the cars are about 20 miles per hour too fast. I come from Jersey and the random pads are at least 100 or 200 ft across larger. Also it is ridiculous to say stay on the inside or staying on the outside Lane depending on where you get off the only safe way to drive them is to stay on the outside Lane make sure no one is next to you or trying to come in when you're going around. I really wish they would have some lights

Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1900828)

This is why there should be no roundabouts and we should just have traffic lights. Everybody is an idiot when they're driving and I don't know anyone over the age of 50 that can change lanes three times in the space of 100 ft safely

Originally Posted by banjobob (Post 1900831)

I think that if the roundabouts were traffic lights in season the villages would become a giant parking lot. Check traffic backups at Morse and 466 ,traffic flow around El Camino Real roundabout and imagine what it would be with traffic light and all the turn signal wait times. Thank God we have roundabouts.

Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1900424)

All true, and add
***watch out for drivers going the wrong way in the RB
***watch out for cyclists in a pack of 20 blowing through the yield sign as if they were one entity
***beware non-street legal golf carts cutting across lanes in front of you
***beware cars going 270 around the RB in the outer lane, and cars exiting at 90 from the inner lane
***Be especially concerned if a car with out of state handicapped plates is approaching the entrance to the RB
***and my favorite, beware the driver who just stops dead in the middle of a RB, usually just far enough ahead that you can't see her around the circle

Enjoy your drive today!:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Originally Posted by boxcarwilly (Post 1900410)

IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf.:MOJE_whot: I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.

Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1900416)

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My #1 rule re roundabouts.

Keep eyes and head on a swivel, NEVER go side-by-side with another vehicle, distrust all signals etc, NEVER assume that the vehicle will stop before entering the roundabout as you're approaching them, be ready to brake at any time, and ALWAYS assume the worst from other drivers.
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Originally Posted by Arctic Fox (Post 1900514)

This is the key, along with indicating your intention to exit the roundabout.

Give others room to move - if you are in the outside lane and someone is in the inside lane and wants to turn right, it is up to you to let them do so.

Having both lanes of Buena Vista merge into one before every roundabout would result in far more accidents.

Originally Posted by boxcarwilly (Post 1900410)

IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf.:MOJE_whot: I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.

Originally Posted by J1ceasar (Post 1900823)

You hit the nail on the head, these roundabouts are way too small to work correctly and the speed of the cars are about 20 miles per hour too fast. I come from Jersey and the random pads are at least 100 or 200 ft across larger. Also it is ridiculous to say stay on the inside or staying on the outside Lane depending on where you get off the only safe way to drive them is to stay on the outside Lane make sure no one is next to you or trying to come in when you're going around. I really wish they would have some lights

Originally Posted by Surf Daddy (Post 1900844)

I can make it simpler. "Just don't get hit"

Originally Posted by boxcarwilly (Post 1900410)

IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf.:MOJE_whot: I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.

Originally Posted by Jayhawk (Post 1900448)

I'll call your Traffic Circle threads and raise you 50 Dog Poops.

Originally Posted by boxcarwilly (Post 1900410)

IMOP....too compact to be safe..drivers are more confused than a goat on astroturf.:MOJE_whot: I treat all roundabouts like a single lane rotary and use a turn signal when exiting.

Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1900523)

I'll see you and raise you a Reverse Mortgage.

Originally Posted by John_W (Post 1900420)

If you did a search, there are probably 10 threads in past that are at least 80 posts each, it's the most discussed topic in history.

Here is a quick lesson, if you follow this you will be more than OK. Just think of a 2 lane roundabout as a 2 lane 4 way stop. If you were making a left turn you would be in the left land (inside lane 3rd exit) and if you were making a right turn you would in the right (outside lane 1st exit). If you were going straight you would be in either lane (2nd exit is straight). There is even a sign before every roundabout showing where each lane can go.

https://www.drivesmartbc.ca/sites/de...rningPaths.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8wIoR7fpPJM/hqdefault.jpg

In this diagram, the yellow car at the bottom in the left lane, where can he proceed to? He can go straight using either lane, or go to the third exit using the left lane.

Originally Posted by xcaligirl (Post 1900889)

I do the same. I'll never understand the inside lane able to turn right!! I will always think they are set up for more crashes.

Originally Posted by toeser (Post 1900933)

It's not always that simple. Let's say you are entering the Villages on Morse off from #441. When you proceed to the gates after going around the roundabout, those who use the resident gate must be in the right lane and those wishing to use the guest gate must exit from the left lane and pray no one hits the right side of their car.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1900735)

After getting over the terror that is "first-time experiencing two-lane roundabouts occupied by a lot of people who might need cataract surgery and younger reflexes" - I realized the fully two-lane roundabouts are entirely manageable as long as you pay attention. And as long as YOUR reflexes are better than the other guy's.

What IS a big problem - is the two-lane roundabouts that exit into one lane exits. Imagine the circle - north, south, east, west...

I'm coming FROM the south. Heading West. If it were a normal intersection it'd be a left turn. But it's not a normal intersection. It's a circle. By the time I get to that exit, it is now a right turn.

But I'm coming from the INSIDE lane, because that's the rule. If you are entering a 2-lane roundabout and you're wanting to go to the "third" exit, you have to enter into the inside lane.

And you now have to make a right turn, from the inside lane, into a single lane where people who are coming from the east, and from the north, also exit.

If you're coming from the south, you won't always even SEE someone heading toward that western exit, if they are coming from the north. Because you are entering while looking to your left. And to your left - is the western exit. You're not looking north. You're looking west. Entering from the south, going in a counter-clockwise position.

So that's where I think roundabouts are horribly flawed. Entering a two-lane roundabout with the intention of exiting into a one-lane exit 3/4 of the way around the circle.