Old people can't even park correctly much less navigate a roundabout safely. The Villagers should have to drive "Bumper Cars" like at amusement parks (that's what TV is, isn't it?).

Do not pass another vehicle while in the two lane roundabout which eliminates a lot of problems.

The signs posted before entering a round-about show how it should be navigated. The outside lane is limited to 2 exits. You can exit the circle at the first exit or the 2nd from the outside lane but you can never travel to the 3rd exit. The inside lane can exit at the 2nd and 3rd exits. Stay in the same (inside) lane to exit the 2nd exit. To exit the at the 3rd, change from the inside lane to the outside lane after passing the 2nd exit IF the exit is only one lane, otherwise stay in the inside lane.

If you travel more than 2 exits in the outside lane and get into an accident, be prepared to pay the ticket and all other accident costs.

Seems to me ridiculous to make a turn from the center lane. Anyone over 60 knows that is a mistake anywhere you drive to make a right turn from the left lane. Yet, here in Florida that is the suggested method. Why not just continue around the roundabout until you can merge into the right lane and then turn right? Crossing lanes to make a turn was always a no-no. I simply do not understand the concept. For example, those idiots who cut you off on the interstate to make a right onto an exit ramp! Roundabouts are very similar.

Costco and Trader Joe's threads beats them all!

Funny how so many say, you can't make a right turn from the left lane unless you are going straight or turning left. When going around a circle, there is ONLY right turns. If you are in the center lane (left lane) you are allowed to make a right turn anytime after the first two(2) exits. Fine, but if some one finds that they are in the right lane and discover that they need to go one more exit or even two more than the original two allotted when entering the circle, they can still turn right. You have to. You are not going to say "oh my, I need to go to the third exit, therefore I need to move out of my right lane to the center so that I can turn right at the next exit. Folks on the inside CAN turn right onto the left lane on the turn only, but anyone that has just entered the circle from the previous entrance, wishing to go to the second exit can easily Tbone them if the one on the left is not observant enough to realize that the car in the right lane is not turning with them. Confusing? Yep and that is why two lane roundabouts are bad for at least 50% of The Villagers driving here. If traffic is busy, just stay in the right lane no matter which exit. You will be safe.

Nope, right now it's "masks."

The problem is the people who are navigating correctly in the inside lane to exit 3/4 around will often get hit by people entering the turnaround in the outside lane and will broadside them. Everyone takes the round-a-bouts too fast. I've lived here for since 2011 and still think I'm safer staying in the outside lane no mater where I'm exiting especially when there's a lot of traffic.

If you did a search, there are probably 10 threads in past that are at least 80 posts each, it's the most discussed topic in history.
I'll call your Traffic Circle threads and raise you 50 Dog Poops.


I'll call your dog poop and raise you 20 executive course condition threads...

The roundabouts are NOT confusing it is the driver that is confused. Being from Boston there roteries every where.

Probably was not NICE to say "HER" in that last statement, at least not politically correct, or even a "good" joke. "Her" implies that women are stupid and worse drivers than men, which insurance statistics say is NOT true. If it was intended as a JOKE that is not TOO terrible and misogynistic - but it is still a too -old joke and ceased to be funny after 1950!

Just buy a Hummer and add extra bumpers to the front, back, and both sides. No problem, then you are good to go!

I agree with that - and I rarely agree with poster Mr. B. The world truly IS full of surprises.

That's only because you don't understand. The inner lane is NOT making a right turn from the left lane

2 lane roundabouts
 

Most states have 2 roundabout lanes (like we do) so that fire trucks, semi's, motor homes, etc. can get through the roundabout easily using both inner and outer lanes. Most states raise the inner lane surface approximately an inch and use bricks that have a rougher surface so cars naturally stay off the inner lane. That way everyone in the roundabout is in single file so there is no need for complemented and confusing instructions. It's that easy folks! I would imagine The Villages will retrofit all roundabouts to conform with this method thus eliminating the majority of roundabout accidents that occur on a daily basis. To make it further uncomplicated (for those that need it) a sign reading 'INNER LANE FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ONLY' could be placed at each entrance to the roundabout, although that's not needed in most states.

Too bad. Get a life!

Seriously? There are signs at the roundabouts now that provide perfect instructions on how to navigate them safely. This thread (and I take it there are several others) exist because some drivers choose to ignore those signs.

Also, I can't see turning a two lane circle into a one lane circle by changing the surface of the inside lane and then adding a sign that references a lane that visually doesn't exist as a way to uncomplicate anything.

How many roundabout accidents happen on a daily basis? Granted, I don't visit many roundabouts each day, but in over five months of living here I have seen exactly zero accidents; I would have expected to see at least one.

Leave the two-lane circles alone and spend time on driver training. Driver training will be less costly, will not create bottlenecks to increase congestion, and will benefit the drivers when they encounter circles elsewhere.

They have to take the first or second exit. Regardless you enter in the outside right lane you are commenting to turn at the first or second exit. It you don’t you better be yielding at the second exit. If you hit car in the left lane going STRAIGHT through at second exit you will be at fault.

You can't always SEE traffic in both lanes. Traffic directly across from you is obscured by trees. You have no idea that they're even there, until you've already entered the circle and they come around behind you.

Yes, you are. If you are in the inside lane of a 2-lane roundabout, then you are in the LEFT lane. You are LEFT of the outside lane, of a roundabout that only has two lanes. Only one can be the left one, and only one can be the right one. The inside lane in a roundabout that goes counter-clockwise, is a LEFT lane.

If you are exiting the roundabout, no matter where that exit is when you get to it - you are exiting to your RIGHT. You -cannot- exit to the left. You're already left. Any further left, and you will be in the MIDDLE of the roundabout, and not in any lane at all.

NO, YOU'RE NOT. Of course you can't exit left, that's why you are NOT making a right turn from a left lane when you choose to go straight through a RB in the inner lane. DOH!!! Maybe it would help you, and all the others that don't understand, to not think of it as a left lane, just an inside lane

The only issue I have is if I am taking the second exit I have to fear a car in the right lane who isn't in the right lane. I have to either slow down or speed up and signal. I'm on but most aren't. Not sure our generation will ever get it right.

Here's a little experiment for you:

Look at an old fashioned watch. See how the hands connect in the middle. Now change the time to exactly 6 o'clock.

Look at those hands. They go straight up and down. Or, if you were in a roundabout, straight north and south. Or straight east and west.

Notice there is no way to go STRAIGHT through that clock, from south to north, without running into the center of the clock where the two hands meet.

If that were a traffic circle, and you were going STRAIGHT through the roundabout, you would do the same thing with your car. I can assure you, the results would be unpleasant.

No, in order to move your finger around counter-clockwise from "near-center" (the inside lane), you go around, UNTIL you see the 12 o'clock coming up on your...what is that called? Oh yeah. On your right. When you see that 12 o'clock number coming up on your right, you veer away from the counter-clockwise movement, and instead, go to your RIGHT.

If you don't go to your right, you will simply continue going around in circles, endlessly, until you run out of gas or get a blister on your finger (depending on whether you're driving a car or moving your finger around a watch face).

You are physically, literally, moving RIGHT when you exit out of a traffic circle. That is what you are doing with your hands on the wheel, it's what your car is doing, and that's why you're supposed to put on your RIGHT turn signal when you exit.

Accidents on a daily basis,,,,I think not. More accidents at intersections.
Darn it I told myself not to post on anymore roundabout threads.

Or you could think about the center of the circle like a box in the road - you steer around the box in order to continue going straight.

Let me try to educate you a different way:

It's a CIRCLE, with traffic continually moving around. It is NOT a traditional intersection with a left lane and a right lane. You are NOT making a "right" turn, EVER. You are exiting right, if you prefer that terminology. If it were an intersection of two 4 lane roads, you would go left from the left lane, right from the right lane, and straight from EITHER lane. That is exactly what happens in the RB, except the left turn is a 270 degree "travel" through the RB, a right turn is a 90 degree travel, and straight is 180 degrees. When you use the inner lane to go straight, YOU ARE NOT TURNING RIGHT.

Also, consider this. Ever travel of the turnpike to Orlando? Many "exits" are 2 lane exits, where the right lane MUST exit and the 2nd from the right lane MAY exit. If you view that situation in isolation, your premise is that the car in the inner/left exit lane is making a right turn from the left lane. Don't argue, it's EXACTLY the same thing as the RBs. To take it further, if there is an entrance lane just before the exit, those cars that are coming into the turnpike MUST YIELD to traffic in BOTH exit lanes, just like in a RB

Get it now??????

This thread is amazing. Something as simple as a traffic circle has people confused and befuddled. Two posters, whom I often disagree with, still don't get it. They are NOT dumb, I respect them both as highly intelligent and articulate (although a bit misguided:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:) What is it about these RBs?

Too much traffic for single lane. If that was the solution all roads should be single two lane roads. Just imagine how long it would take to go down 441 or 75.

Then get out your white cross and pray that you aren’t headed to Traders Joe’s, Cosco or an Executive Golf Course.

When I taught my kids to drive I cautioned them to drive as if every other driver was out to kill them. Watch them like a hawk.
That is the best way to go through the roundabouts.

It's the dumb drivers, not the roundabouts.

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

I don't have a problem with them. Just follow the rules and everyone will be ok. But be cautious for others .

IF ONLY that was what actually happens.........

Roundabouts are only as safe as the worst driver in the roundabout. If the GOAT on astroturf is TB12, there is no confusion.

It's not that bad when it's 2 lanes exiting onto 2 lanes, or 1 lane exiting onto 1 lane. But when it's 2 lanes exiting onto 1 lane it's confusing, dangerous, and a little scary.

ESPECIALLY when it's 2 lanes exiting onto 1 lane PLUS a golf cart path slicing right at that spot, AND the golf cart path is somewhat obscured by a wall, before everyone gets to that point.

All true

You are doing it wrong and you are the problem, not the solution.

You must be from the north. We all learned how to drive a rotary and it is one lane one car. Whoever is in the circle has the right of way otherwise you wait. Unless you are making an immediate right and think you an beat the car coming around the corner. I see at least one accident a week on Morse Blvd and these poorly planned circles. A true round about is one lane off set the the right designed to slow down traffic at an intersection.

So do I!