The subject is Measles Measles, not the virus virus.

Not much of that is accurate either.

Have your Dr. do an IGG blood work to check for the antibodies for the measles. The results will tell you if you still have the antibodies and how much of them. I did it a few years ago for measles, mumps, rubella and chicken pox. All were still high. Two weeks ago I had my antibodies checked for Covid. I have the Moderna vaccine 7 months ago. My antibodies were still high. The Dr. said to check every three months and if the level goes down, then I should take the booster.

Most of us had measles and chicken pox as a child, long before the vaccine was available. That provided you with a pretty strong immunity, likely life long. Most children are vaccinated with MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) as a condition to enter school. So for the most part, those at risk of contracting the very contagious measles are very young children. That’s a scary thought. Anyone entering the country from another may not be vaccinated for the basics and I can only presume that there will be an all out effort to get those entering from Afghanistan vaccinated quickly.

:ohdear: Sure, yeah, uh huh, because we all know that people from Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa don’t travel to The Villages in the winter.

I and my siblings had the measles when we were young and it was miserable. Headache, aches, rash that looked like a red blanket an our bodies and we were pretty uncomfortable until it passed. I don’t want that again but maybe we still have antibodies loaded in us.

What's your moniker, "Rich the Racist"! If I were you. I would worry more about the people in Florida who are not vaccinated and/or are anti-maskers.

Except........There are multiple antibodies involved in COVID immunity, and we still don't know which ones they are. The antibody test is only for one of them, and that one may not even confer immunity. In other words, neither you nor your doctor should put too much faith in the results of the current antibody test.

Measles
 

When my husband was in the army, my son and some of the army kids got the measles. One mother did not as her kid didn't either. Later she was pregnant and got the measles. Her baby was born without arms or legs. I had measles in college and so did my daughter. Now it is not prevalent in the US, but I wonder about immigrants bringing it in if they haven't been vaccinated.

100% agree. Get the booster when the booster is recommended. By the way, do you expect your insurance to pay for your four times a year antibody test? There is no established medical reason to be doing it. You might ask your doctor what evidence or recommendation he or she used in developing this suggestion.

From the CDC
"Antibody testing is not currently recommended to assess for immunity to COVID-19 following COVID-19 vaccination"

From Quest
"Antibody testing for the purposes of vaccine decision making is not currently recommended by the CDC."
The shot costs the government or your insurance about $20. TheQuest charge for antibody testing is $69 dollars.

Why don't you get the facts instead of spouting off half assed ignorance? 🙄🙄

Measles
 

People who previously had measles have antibodies that protect them the rest of their lives. Those who are over 50 & who were vaccinated (had the entire series) typically have sufficient antibodies to get them through to adulthood and probably to old age. However, lots of college kids get measles because, according to research, their antibody levels wane so it is recommended that kids get a booster at 18. You can get a measles titer drawn to check your level and it will tell you whether you need a booster or not. Ask your doctor!

CDC Requirements for immigrant vaccination
 

Please, please, PLEASE! Let's not spread fear of these poor people who have lost EVERYTHING. They came here with nothing but the clothes on their backs, to escape a government who has killed ther family members and friends because they helped US in the war effort.

Here is information from the CDC about vaccinations required for immigration:

https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugee...Surgeons-H.pdf

Is the OP really serious? Sorry, but I just don’t get this kind of a post. Is it really to get an answer to the long term effectiveness of measles vaccination or to provoke nasty conversations that tend to draw out the worst in people. These Afghans? Many of these people have put their lives and families at risk to help us, and they have had to pick-up and leave, likely forever, their homes and the ancestral homes of their mothers and fathers and grandparents, also their neighbors and friends, and we are concerned about possible measles?

Do you have any idea to whom you’re speaking? If so, use the QUOTE button.

Lol, it was reported that only about 8000-9000 Afghans should have been evacuated and the rest rode their coattails.

With the majority of Americans vaccinated or had the measles, the risk of an epidemic is about zero.
This is just fear mongering, and giving some people a political platform to bang their anti-whatever drums.
Get real!

I suppose I am nit-picking a little, even if you don't have lice... but that's not how strep works. Strep includes a large number of different strains, like Covid does. Some of those strains not only cause sore throats but also produce a toxin that causes the typical rash and strawberry tongue of scarlet fever. Some strep strains cause sore throats and do not produce the toxin.
Those strains which make the toxin are not more likely to lead to heart complications [rheumatic heart disease] than those that do not produce the toxin. Only about a dozen strains of the over 200 strep variants produce almost all the cases of rheumatic fever. Having strep throat from one of these strains does not mean you will get the complication. The others simply are not rheumatogenic.

Your explanation of the heart disease is wrong.
The strep bacteria does not infect the heart. Rather the body produces antibodies to fight off the strep throat infection. In rare cases these antibodies errantly also attack the heart valves. So it is your own immune system that gives you the complication.

The events you describe of a person having a strep infection then developing heart disease are accurate. This is one of the reasons why strep throat is treated with antibiotics, to prevent heart and other rare complications. Viral sore throats should not be treated with antibiotics.

History details. The injection for polio was available beginning in 1955 and the oral vaccine in 1962. The unapproved experimental injection was tested on school children in the largest such study ever done, with some media warning parents that the shot was dangerous and could kill your kids. One batch in fact was errantly manufactured and contained live virus and killed. But Americans understood that the benefit outweighed the risk not only for their own kids but as a community health measure to stop disease spread. Pop culture figures helped by showing themselves being vaccinated, publicly getting a shot, not secretly. Polio at its worst was killing a few thousand a year

Done nit picking.

I always appreciate your knowledge and insight. Thanks!

This is incorrect. Really I hope you're just confused but this is so wrong. For starters the measles shot as a stand alone was only approved in 1963 so very few people born before 1960 got that shot. The combination MMR was only released in 1971. I don't know what you mean by the "entire series" as there has not been a series ever recommended. Just a single booster was recommended in 1989 for those who got the earlier shots. If you were born in the 40's or the 50's you might have never had a measles shot as it was not required for school until into the 70's.

Since the introduction of universal MMR vaccination in the US, measles has gone to nearly zero cases per year except for outbreaks in unvaccinated pockets. There is no truth whatsoever to your claim that there is a problem with college age students. There is no truth that there is a recommendation for a booster at age 18.

make sure you have the shingrx vaccine (shingles) which is caused from the measles virus...

There is that and much more streaming across our Southern Boarder in much bigger numbers daily.

That statement needs some correction:

FYI, shingles is caused by the re-activation of the varicella virus (chicken pox) , which stays dormant in the dorsal root ganglia of your spinal cord after acute infection. It then, usually after advancing in years, or stressed by a major illness or trauma, crawls down a single dermatome of a spinal or cranial nerve and causes the distinctive rash of shingles. And that's why you should get a SHINGRIX vaccine. Nothing whatsoever to do with measles

Regular measles, rubeola, the kind we are talking about here does NOT cause birth defects but is in itself a significant illness in those who become infected.

There is an entirely different illness, rubella, AKA German measles that is a trivial illness in those who catch it. The only concern with rubella is the damage it can cause to the fetus. Rubella is the R in MMR. Rubella does not cause children to be born without arms or legs. So whatever illness your army friend had, it was not measles or german measles that led to this sad outcome. If this child was born in 1960-61 and the mother was in Europe, being the military, she may have been given Thalidomide which did cause this outcome.

Agree. Sounds more like the phocomelia caused by Thalidomide.

I understand they are being screened for and given required vaccinations, including for COVID. These people are not just being dumped out on the streets.

They are being screened for and given required vaccinations, including for COVID. There are several news articles about this. These people are not just being dumped out on the streets.

WELL, actually as far as RISKS go - it is just the OPPOSITE! Flu is REPORTED / PREDICTED to INCREASE this winter - due to society and schools OPENING up more THIS year than last. Last year more people tended to quarantine, traveled less, and wear masks. In general, they felt more risks and acted accordingly.
.........I am NOT sure about measles, but I would assume an increase this winter.
.........If post #2 was correct about 1,000 deaths per year from measles, that would be insignificant compared to CV deaths.
..........However, the Afghanistan population infusion could increase that unless at the US bases, they got shots? Somehow, I doubt that - probably due to religious reasons.
I consider that my information about predicted increased FLU - is solid information from respected TV news hosts and a respected newspaper.
........ These dashed ones are my OWN conjecture and opinions which I give over to the Forum for further discussion by the TV Land experts.....sincerely.
........Incidentally, the only LINKS that I could be sure that are more than opinion or worse - dark conspiracies - are CUFFLINKS ! I can't live my life going around memorizing LINKS that, anyway, would be shot down by 60% of posters as liberal, commie TV channels and newspapers. Sorry!

Personally, I am MORE afraid of getting CV than shingles, because I think (?) that shingles, while painful, IS not A KILLER. IMO.

Not unless you're immunocompromised and get disseminated Zoster, in which case you are dead.

As I understand it the scar was created on purpose so that everyone could tell who was or was not vaccinated.

Nope, you got that wrong

The majority isn’t everyone, get realer. Duh!

Btw, political discussions or remarks aren’t permitted here.

I am sure that it is well known. But, it is CAUSED by propaganda from abroad and internal regurgitation of that AFOREMENTIONED propaganda. And I am talking about the non-mainstream media.

Really? When I got Covid, I treated myself at home. I took antihistamines and aspirin and in about three days I was good as new -- just like the rest of the 99.6% of people who survive it.

Measles is actually MORE virulent than Covid, among people who have no natural immunity. It's estimated that nearly 90% of the indigenous population of America was wiped out by Measles from contact with the early Spanish explorers, before North America was even colonized.

The weirdest thing about this pandemic is that almost nobody seems to know any actual victims personally. I was born in the middle of a polio pandemic. My parents had friends who lost children. I went to school with crippled survivors. But even though I live in a community of old people at high risk from Covid, two years into this pandemic, I still don't personally know a single victim. However, I do have a neighbor who had a stroke the day after she got her Covid shot. I don't think that counts, though.

Iknow dozens of people who had COVID including 6 on my street!

Well, I don't know about panty-waists (that does NOT seem very fashionable) - but during WW1 MANY G.I.s DIED from the, so-called, Spanish Flu while on ships being transported to Europe. I believe that the Spanish Flu was a misnomer because it REALLY started in KANSAS. And I may be UNLINKED in my historical knowledge, but supposedly, a US President (maybe (?) Woodrow Wilson set up the FLU's name to change from Kansas to Spanish.
At least, today we do NOT want to change the name of the CV to something from Europe. We have "come a long way, baby".

Good post. That is putting the blame where it rightfully belongs. And why does government NOT live up to its main reason for existence - to protect and defend its citizens - from all enemies, from without and from within? Public Health IS responsible for defending US citizens against our invisible germ-type enemies.

Presume, but verify.

So do I. Several on our street and more that I know personally. One long-hauler as well.

Wow!
I learn something every day!:icon_wink: