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MidWestIA 09-09-2021 05:36 AM

immigrants
 
What about all the immigrants the liberals want to let flood in with NO VACCINATIONS or check at the border - some had TB

RICH1 09-09-2021 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thevillages2013 (Post 2000827)
Don’t know, not a doctor just curious how that clothing drive is coming along?:popcorn:

Not good, on the clothing drive... waiting for a Church to launch a drive for the people in LA.... evidently all the refugees receive brand new clothing and hygiene products.. Religious and cultural reasons....

jswirs 09-09-2021 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2000722)
Well, I think one thing that changed was that those were ordinary vaccines, instead of experimental gene manipulation vaccines not yet approved by the FDA for children.

And those diseases primarily effected children, unlike COVID that primarily effects old people.

And they weren't required by everybody -- just children enrolling in school.

But there was one similarity -- measles has a death rate almost identical to Covid-19: 0.6%

Odd, isn't it. I wonder why we didn't panic and hide in our basements from the Measles back in the '50's. We not only didn't panic, but back before the vaccines, we used to have Measles parties in the summer so the kids would get it over with and not miss school! Now we prevent kids from going to school to protect them from a 0.6% risk (actually much less than that, in the case of Covid and kids)!

So I guess that's changed. We used to be a nation that won a world war, while fighting a flu pandemic that killed millions. Now we're a nation of panty-waists who put working people on the dole and run their employers out of business, to save them from a disease that mostly only kills retired people!


Well said, and, unfortunately, seems to be so true, and not just what you have stated, because some of what we have done in the world lately is nothing less than disgraceful, but that's another story. You echo my sentiments...exactly.

MLuft 09-09-2021 06:02 AM

I was immunized as a child; when I was trying to get pregnant my doctor tested me and my immunity was not good so I got another vaccine and had to wait to get pregnant. Your doctor can check if you’re still good to go.

Luggage 09-09-2021 06:32 AM

When you go to your doctor is definitely a good question to ask as they are the experts however I was looking up just last month about vaccinations in general from our earlier childhood years and there are quite a few that you should get boosters that I recommended Tdap is a series for for four specific diseases that we can catch in our old age as well as of course shingles, and the regular Chinese flu yearly but the first few I mentioned are extremely important as they do weekend as we age so of course please talk to your doctor

MandoMan 09-09-2021 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 2000532)
For many of us vaccines against Mumps, Measles, Whooping Cough were not yet available. In Columbus, Ohio in 1945 people were quarantined by the health department for these illnesses and there was a sign on your door. They did kill, and caused brain damage, and deafness. I am so grateful for all of the scientists who worked over all of the years to give us vaccines that can now save us from these and Shingles, and three kinds of pneumonia AND seasonal flu and now Covid. I will have my sleeve rolled up for the boosters for all if they are needed.

Salk and Sabin and Francis Crick are heroes to me like some have sports figures.

Before it was standard to give antibiotics for Strep Throat, many people who got that then got Scarlet Fever, which sometimes led to an infection of the heart that could kill or could damage one or more valves permanently. One of my aunts had to have a heart valve replacement forty years after Scarlet Fever damaged her heart. I remember one of my. Fourth grade friends having heart damage because of it in 1964.

Last summer I talked with my 92 year old dad about how scary polio was for parents when I was little and how liberating it was when we kids were able to get vaccinated. It was like emerging from under an umbrella of fear. What I remember is fighting and crying over getting a shot, and how happy I was when the next polio vaccine came on a delicious sugar cube.

Some of you can remember the kind of smallpox vaccination where the doctor broke off the end of a tiny glass capillary tube and stuck the sharp end a dozen times or more into the kid’s arm in a half-inch circle. I remember my pediatrician telling me it would be like a “Little Indian Dance.” I disagreed. Violently. Fortunately I am braver now. I’ll bet plenty of you still have a smallpox vaccination scar. Later, there was a new version that was just an injection and didn’t leave a scar. I remember not being able to touch it until the scab fell off on its own, which took several weeks.

Luggage 09-09-2021 06:39 AM

The big difference is in the infection rate and the method of infection between measles and covid. Covid is much more virulent. Measles patient could be treated at home. Not covid . Covid patient may need lung machines . Not measles . The rate of death is only equal to measles because we have much better care today than 50 years ago. Both are highly preventable with proper vaccination and social distancing. Neither a measles or a covid patient would I kiss on the lips with a tongue insertion.






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Originally Posted by Blueblaze (Post 2000722)
Well, I think one thing that changed was that those were ordinary vaccines, instead of experimental gene manipulation vaccines not yet approved by the FDA for children.

And those diseases primarily effected children, unlike COVID that primarily effects old people.

And they weren't required by everybody -- just children enrolling in school.

But there was one similarity -- measles has a death rate almost identical to Covid-19: 0.6%

Odd, isn't it. I wonder why we didn't panic and hide in our basements from the Measles back in the '50's. We not only didn't panic, but back before the vaccines, we used to have Measles parties in the summer so the kids would get it over with and not miss school! Now we prevent kids from going to school to protect them from a 0.6% risk (actually much less than that, in the case of Covid and kids)!

So I guess that's changed. We used to be a nation that won a world war, while fighting a flu pandemic that killed millions. Now we're a nation of panty-waists who put working people on the dole and run their employers out of business, to save them from a disease that mostly only kills retired people!


golfing eagles 09-09-2021 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2000862)
When you go to your doctor is definitely a good question to ask as they are the experts however I was looking up just last month about vaccinations in general from our earlier childhood years and there are quite a few that you should get boosters that I recommended Tdap is a series for for four specific diseases that we can catch in our old age as well as of course shingles, and the regular Chinese flu yearly but the first few I mentioned are extremely important as they do weekend as we age so of course please talk to your doctor

Just to clarify a bit. Tdap protects against THREE diseases---tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis. Plain tetanus is recommended as a "booster" every 10 years, pertussis in some situations, and we rarely give diphtheria vaccine boosters. You cannot "catch" shingles, it is a reactivation of the varicella (chicken pox) virus from childhood that stayed dormant in the dorsal root ganglia. And the "regular flu" is not necessarily Chinese. ( and that's weaken, not weekend). End of clarification.

GRACEALLEMAN 09-09-2021 07:07 AM

Measles
 
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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2000330)
According to Dr. Google, the measles vaccination is mostly good for life.
Fort McCoy is nearly 1400 miles from TV.
Think it's fairly safe to go out in public:icon_wink:

Excuse me but how far away was the Chinese virus virus? Didn't come over this way?? Not a very good answer you did

Jerseyborn 09-09-2021 07:12 AM

If you're concerned...
 
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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2000325)
I'm in my 60s and remember having the measles inoculation many years ago, are we still protected from the Measles?
Evidently these Afghans are bringing in measles and other diseases and are free to enter towns near the Bases! I'm hoping to get a Doctor to respond but I'm sure some expert will tackle this question

You can get a blood test to see if you still have immunity

Two Bills 09-09-2021 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GRACEALLEMAN (Post 2000877)
Excuse me but how far away was the Chinese virus virus? Didn't come over this way?? Not a very good answer you did

The subject is Measles Measles, not the virus virus.

golfing eagles 09-09-2021 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Luggage (Post 2000865)
The big difference is in the infection rate and the method of infection between measles and covid. Covid is much more virulent. Measles patient could be treated at home. Not covid . Covid patient may need lung machines . Not measles . The rate of death is only equal to measles because we have much better care today than 50 years ago. Both are highly preventable with proper vaccination and social distancing. Neither a measles or a covid patient would I kiss on the lips with a tongue insertion.

Not much of that is accurate either.

Gettingoutofdodge 09-09-2021 07:36 AM

Have your Dr. do an IGG blood work to check for the antibodies for the measles. The results will tell you if you still have the antibodies and how much of them. I did it a few years ago for measles, mumps, rubella and chicken pox. All were still high. Two weeks ago I had my antibodies checked for Covid. I have the Moderna vaccine 7 months ago. My antibodies were still high. The Dr. said to check every three months and if the level goes down, then I should take the booster.

DonnaNi4os 09-09-2021 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 2000325)
I'm in my 60s and remember having the measles inoculation many years ago, are we still protected from the Measles?
Evidently these Afghans are bringing in measles and other diseases and are free to enter towns near the Bases! I'm hoping to get a Doctor to respond but I'm sure some expert will tackle this question

Most of us had measles and chicken pox as a child, long before the vaccine was available. That provided you with a pretty strong immunity, likely life long. Most children are vaccinated with MMR (measles, mumps, rubella) as a condition to enter school. So for the most part, those at risk of contracting the very contagious measles are very young children. That’s a scary thought. Anyone entering the country from another may not be vaccinated for the basics and I can only presume that there will be an all out effort to get those entering from Afghanistan vaccinated quickly.

Aces4 09-09-2021 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 2000330)
According to Dr. Google, the measles vaccination is mostly good for life.
Fort McCoy is nearly 1400 miles from TV.
Think it's fairly safe to go out in public:icon_wink:


:ohdear: Sure, yeah, uh huh, because we all know that people from Wisconsin, Minnesota and Iowa don’t travel to The Villages in the winter.

I and my siblings had the measles when we were young and it was miserable. Headache, aches, rash that looked like a red blanket an our bodies and we were pretty uncomfortable until it passed. I don’t want that again but maybe we still have antibodies loaded in us.


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