Do customers pass on those taxes passed on to them back to the corporations in the form of higher wages? If you knew basic macroeconomics you would see the fallacy of your assumptions on how the economy works.

You seem to be trying to correct some misunderstanding on my part but I understand the impact fee issue exactly as you describe it.

As for whether "40% of the max rate allowed only covers 40% of the actual impact costs," I made an assumption that might not be true. I assume the 2019 study gave the estimated impact costs for the different types of structures and that the impact fee schedule was created from that. It isn't like the study generated a number and the Commissioners then added a fudge factor when generating the fee schedule.

So there would be no "max rate allowed," it would instead be the actual impact costs as determined by the study. It would not be 40% of the max rate allowed but instead would be 40% of the actual impact costs.

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What exactly do you expect from a newspaper that is owned by the developer. It’s the same as watching CNN.

It does seem ODD that the Sun/Developer did not go nuts 2-3 years ago over the increase in RE taxes WE had.

Actually it is worse, it is masquerading as a newspaper but it is nothing but a propaganda newsletter.

The Lie
 

Here we go again! The Villages Daily Sun Propaganda Machine!

I looked out the window during this mornings rainstorm and noticed my neighbors home (approx $350,000.00+) does not have gutters. That cost would have most likely added $1,000 or so to the cost of the home. Then remembered the sales pitch of the subdivisions that surround TV. Their cost is expressed as being 50 to 60% of a similar home in TV. Perhaps the developer has a gold mine and I have no issue with that, however perhaps some of the costs of that home such as infrastructure are being passed along through taxes (which go on forever) to others rather than included in the(one time) cost of the home. If that is correct the developer has a choice, raise the selling price, or reduce their markup. Impact fees should be paid by the developer, and then added to the developers cost of the individual homes.

Same for the radio station.

I agree that you would find better information on this subject by going to Facebook. But, Facebook causes polarization of views and I do NOT like Zuckerdingaling! So, I do NOT use Facebook. I may (?) join if and when the Zuck is gone.

No more unbiased news
 

Seems to me no news outlets are unbiased any more. They all edit the real news to make their biased points.

Look at any unedited streaming video compared to the supposedly unbiased news shows and you will clearly see biased reporting.

I can make my own opinions based upon unbiased reporting but really have to research to find it.

Probably because all the news shows are just that a show pandering to a specific audience to boost their ratings.

The death of real news happened years ago.

Kudos on the expression," the circus has gotten too big for the tent". And in this circus, the NEWSPAPER can be used to wipe off the elephant's posterior. And on a bigger scale, maybe the US population has gotten too big for its geographic bounds and natural resources?

I read the comics, but even that is slanted in viewpoint because DOONESBERRY was eliminated about 12 years ago. So sad!

Comics................it's crazy they are infected too.

Yes, this IS a "company town". That is a good way to put it. To generalize, I would call it an autocratic Kingdom. TV Land is like the Magic (or tragic) Kingdom of Disney World, just for old adults. WE are the peasants, the peons of this Kingdom. Like all Kingdoms, our Kings protect us, peons, from something - namely reality. WE are made to believe that we are young and powerful. So, we will accept our delusion. The newspaper, radio, and the square entertainment help keep us controlled in this delusion.

It sounds like voting in 3 more democratic, resident-leaning new commissioners has put a burr under the saddles of our Kings. If the residents wanted to send the Kings a more forceful message, they would have to organize and come up with some action like boycotting all restaurants, theaters, squares, and commercial establishments for SAY.....1 week. The Development Kings might take that hint seriously. And maybe some threat of some kind of lawsuit. Unfortunately, those actions are unlikely because the PEONS, like sleeping giants, are too engrossed in enjoying their DELUSION.

Good post, kudos!

True about the "on and on". But, that ever-increasing population at some (?) point causes "quality of life" to go down. The US is ranked 30th in that quality. Scandinavian countries are in the top ten. Have we passed that point in TV Land?

How about this analogy - if a person were to physically KEEP growing, eventually they would CRASH their head and shoulders out through their roof - or the circus gets too big for the tent. Pick one.

I would say that the TV Landers that you know must be way smarter than 70% of the ones that I know.

There's your problem. Maybe you should start hanging out with smarter people. :1rotfl:

I agree, but the ultimate goal or motivating principle should be "quality of life", not always JUST PROFITS. You may say that there is no other way but the Scandinavian countries rank in the top 10. The US used to be there too.......in 1950.....What happened?

Sounds to me just like a regurgitation of the article in the Daily Sun happy talk, everything-is-wonderful propaganda machine.

Agreed, crazy.

Good advice. I will try that and maybe I will get a Doberman puppy.

Me thinks the Covid Pandemic has addled a lot of minds and brought a lot of the negativism. We have been living in TV for nearly five years. We did our due diligence before we decided to buy here; we knew we were buying into a lifestyle that fit our desires for the remaining retirement years of our lives. We knew about bonds, infrastructure costs, amenity fees, annual maintenance fees, property taxes, CDD style of government, covenants and restrictions. We knew we could find comparable housing in retirement communities at a lesser cost; but these communities did not offer the plethora of activities that are available here. We knew the role the developer plays in major decision making about how TV is run, and we like it. We liked the availability of churches, social clubs, sports activities, entertainment, restaurants (although we wanted some that were a little more upscale for special occasions). We liked the ability to go most places within TV by golf cart. The only thing that we did not know was that the development was not going to stop at hwy 44; had we known that, we would have still purchased here. We enjoy living here and look forward to resuming the lifestyle we had before Covid.

What has changed that has affected our lifestyle in the five years is not the expansion of TV south. It is the past year dealing with the Covid pandemic and how it has really negatively affected our ability to enjoy all the things that brought us here in the first place. Initially so many things shut down---rec centers, pools, churches, restaurants, theaters, most entertainment, dancing,, social clubs, sports activities, etc.. Then we had to deal with hoarding of toilet paper, disinfectants, paper products, etc. Then masking everywhere along with social distancing and capacity restrictions, carry out rather than eat in, golfing one person per cart, etc. We had two cruises cancelled as a result of the pandemic. As this year has progressed we have noticed more negativism and more complaining about TV and about the developer and about the expansion. We have noticed more people expressing anti-developer views. We have come to believe the POA is more anti-developer that pro residents. Covid pandemic related???????

Someday we will get back to normal. But none of the expansion has negatively affected us; in fact we like what we have seen of the future plans south including the medical complex, new charter school, sports complex, additional 18 and 27 hole champ courses, etc.
The Covid-19 is the cause of our choosing to put our normal lifestyle on hold. We don't complain about it or blame the developer or anyone else. We can still go to our neighborhood pool. We can still get tee times to play golf. We choose not to eat indoors at restaurants, but do a lot of carry-out. We can't go to the Savannah Center or the Sharon or the town squares for entertainment, not because of the expansion, but because we still don't feel safe indoors with crowds which also has caused us to put ballroom dancing on hold. We will receive our second Covid Vaccine in two weeks which will make us feel a little more safe. What we don't understand is all the people who stay here who do not like what the developer has done or is doing; it seems the same ones complain over and over on TOTV. There are plenty of places any of us can live, and I can not imagine continuing to live in a community where I was unhappy.

I’m trying to search the Daily Sun archives. Can someone please direct me to the stories in the Daily Sun reporting on the Butler, Printz, Burgess Tax Increase of 25%? I would like to read all about the Butler, Printz, Burgess Tax Increase of 25%. I’m having difficulty finding stories about the Butler, Printz, Burgess Tax Increase of 25%.

First, it was not the Butler, Burgess, Printz tax increase. It was the Butler, Burgess, Printz, Gilpin, Breeden tax increase, enacted when the Developer had all 5 of his puppets on the County Commission. It was enacted in order to preserve the Developer's sweetheart impact fee while paying for county infrastructure necessitated by the Developer's massive expansion of The Villages.
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Second, to quote Captain Renault in Casablanca, "I am shocked, shocked" that you might find that the Developer's newspaper buried the true story. If you want the facts, go to the on-line newspaper and use the Search feature. There is also a little video on youtube that explains the essentials: Scott Fenstermaker--How can five guys screw 125000 people? - YouTube

tax bias issues in 'paper;
 

Be cautious of any Oped that Corder sponsors - usually just a talking/market point.

They are never labeled "Oped". They are disguised as news.

I'll credit you with this: You ARE consistent. Monotonous, but consistent

Something I do not understand.

What has been the history of the impact fee over the past 20-25 years?