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Number 6 10-22-2015 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1133452)
In that case, it goes back to the question--exclusively for use by Moffitt?, and is Moffitt non-profit? Every imaging procedure has two separate billing components---a professional fee (physician interpretation) and a technical fee, which is meant to help pay for the equipment. IF, IF, IF it was something only Moffitt would use, and IF, IF,IF Moffitt is for profit, then I would view it as double dipping

My understanding is that Moffitt was only billing the Professional Component as some part of TVH owned the equipment and building (and employed the techs, etc.). The Technical Component is still pretty profitable, especially if you do not have to fund the equipment purchase. How do you suppose Cancer Treatment Centers of America can afford a national ad campaign? Or the for profit cancer care chains.

trichard 10-22-2015 09:25 AM

I would point out that united healthcare Medicare advantage plan dropped Moffit from its provider list and replaced with another group. The referrals from the villages health will then dry up.

dbussone 10-22-2015 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Number 6 (Post 1133512)
My understanding is that Moffitt was only billing the Professional Component as some part of TVH owned the equipment and building (and employed the techs, etc.). The Technical Component is still pretty profitable, especially if you do not have to fund the equipment purchase. How do you suppose Cancer Treatment Centers of America can afford a national ad campaign? Or the for profit cancer care chains.

N6 - I was with you until your last two sentences. As for profit organizations, CTCA and other for profits typically purchase equipment from funds resulting from operations. Another route is by selling stock on the markets, or selling bonds. They do not have foundations supporting the purchase of equipment.

NYGUY 10-22-2015 10:17 AM

This is from Wikipedia:

H. Lee Moffitt Cancer Center & Research Institute is a nonprofit cancer treatment and research center located in Tampa, Florida. Established in 1981 by the Florida Legislature, the hospital opened in October 1986, on the University of South Florida campus.[1] Moffitt is the only National Cancer Institute-designated Comprehensive Cancer Center based in Florida.[2]

Here is a link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Lee...arch_Institute

It is probably just as well known as any of the other National Cancer Institute designated centers are known outside of their geographical areas.

golfing eagles 10-22-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by NYGUY (Post 1133540)
This is from Wikipedia:

It is probably just as well known as any of the other National Cancer Institute designated centers are known outside of their geographical areas.

I would venture to say Sloan-Kettering, Dana Farber, MD Anderson, Mayo Clinic and St. Jude's Children's are far more well known outside their geographic areas than Moffitt

dbussone 10-22-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1133552)
I would venture to say Sloan-Kettering, Dana Farber, MD Anderson, Mayo Clinic and St. Jude's Children's are far more well known outside their geographic areas than Moffitt


Interestingly when I lived out west, I learned that few out there knew about Sloan Kettering or MD Anderson. Reputation, except for a few exceptions, seems to be regional.

golfing eagles 10-22-2015 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1133582)
Interestingly when I lived out west, I learned that few out there knew about Sloan Kettering or MD Anderson. Reputation, except for a few exceptions, seems to be regional.

Doesn't matter. Let's just be happy we have a first class cancer center within 100 miles.

Number 6 10-22-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1133515)
N6 - I was with you until your last two sentences. As for profit organizations, CTCA and other for profits typically purchase equipment from funds resulting from operations. Another route is by selling stock on the markets, or selling bonds. They do not have foundations supporting the purchase of equipment.

I was just pointing out that cancer care is still a very profitable business, especially radiation oncology. It just seemed strange to me that the residents were supposed to pay for the equipment up front. Well, that was an argument for anther day.

dbussone 10-22-2015 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 6 (Post 1133644)
I was just pointing out that cancer care is still a very profitable business, especially radiation oncology. It just seemed strange to me that the residents were supposed to pay for the equipment up front. Well, that was an argument for anther day.


We agree. Regarding the equipment, it is fairly common for not-for-profit hospitals to try and raise charitable contributions for any number of purposes. So that did not surprise me.

Number 6 10-22-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dbussone (Post 1133666)
We agree. Regarding the equipment, it is fairly common for not-for-profit hospitals to try and raise charitable contributions for any number of purposes. So that did not surprise me.

Thinking back to that time, what bothered me was we were not "asked to", but were "expected to" donate.

circletrack 10-22-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Number 6 (Post 1133688)
Thinking back to that time, what bothered me was we were not "asked to", but were "expected to" donate.

Seems a little extreme. I don't think anyone was ever obligated to donate to anything. If everyone here was expected to donate, we'd probably have a world class cancer treatment and research facility.

The only thing I remember being an issue was the Moffitt fundraiser vs. Relay for Life fundraising.

Buffalo Jim 10-22-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bimmertl (Post 1133380)
And all the donors who use it will be billed for their use.

What a great business plan! If I can get a bunch of suckers to contribute to something like that money making possibilities are unlimited!

How much did you actually donate that you are so offended ?

I donated and I am not the least offended .

Do you really believe that this was some type of scheme to collect donations for equipment ?
If so that`s just amazing . :1rotfl::1rotfl:

DrThunder 10-24-2015 08:25 AM

Interesting Article on the Subject in Orlando Sentinel
 
Lauren Ritchie: Central Florida Health Alliance sold linear accelerator donated by Villagers to for-profit cancer company - Orlando Sentinel

graciegirl 10-24-2015 08:32 AM



Look up Lauren Ritchie under search above.


I don't think she is a huge fan of The Villages.


Here is one thread with a mention of her.




https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...Lauren+Ritchie

graciegirl 10-24-2015 08:41 AM

Dr. Thunder, your link opened elsewhere. I think this is what you were referencing.




Lauren Ritchie: Central Florida Health Alliance sold linear accelerator donated by Villagers to for-profit cancer company - Orlando Sentinel


I just can't get to like her style of writing.


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