We must live in different areas. I have gone to dozens of events by at least seven clubs in at least six rec centers and have had my ID checked at EVERY SINGLE ONE.

If someone is in the pool and has removed their “I don’t live here” t-shirt then how do you know they are non-residents? When you learned that they were non-residents, did you get on the phone and alert the staff?

It’s far too easy to “know” something in these posts while having absolutely no knowledge in real life.

We should be using gate cards like Lakewood Ranches uses.

Who owns the roads there?

I did. See #148

See # 148

Yes, and after learning this what did you do to remedy the situation? (A fistfight is the wrong answer, recounting a story on ToTV is ineffective)

My area must be very sheltered, there have been a few subjects of major concern that I have not experienced in the areas of the Villages that I frequent.

I totally agree with your "extensions ".
See, I told you, I'm not a complete idiot. 😃😃😃

Notified the appropriate oversite individual. What they did is unknown to me.

Lucky you. Being sheltered can be nice.

Never thought that. A bit misguided perhaps, but there's always hope of finally seeing the light :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You must not live in the right village. Any possibility of admission of not being a resident, a phone call would be immediate by no less than 3-4 residents. Our last four neighborhoods were so territorial, they would bash a resident from different neighborhood. We found it so comical the first time we went to the pool, we would routinely say “I don’t live in this village, but like the location of pool to sun ratio.

Just for S**t & Giggles, sometimes my comment “yeh finished cleaning a house, and wanted to cool off, before the next job” since we never frequented the same neighborhood pools, kept things interesting. One CW guy would laugh when the old ones would loudly say they don’t belong here they are too young. Make them leave.:a20: we were friends with a few of CW’s, alway smiled “you make my job interesting”.

So maybe a resident with a warp sense of humor, just trying to stir up some fun

The “monitors” do not check everybody at the pool for ID’s. Those without ID’s know that those in the pool are not checked for ID’S. I have personally seen people who forgot their ID actually get in the pool when they see the Monitor coming - sort of funny, huh. Apparently Monitors are told by their supervisor not to make people get out of the pool to show their ID’S.

I get it, maybe the non-resident might buy a house someday. Just saying. I don’t think our pools are over run by non-residents illegally using our pools we pay to use. At least, not that I’ve seen and it could be that residents sometimes forget to get their guests passes or just are too busy (lazy maybe). Fore.

TV could install a card reader at the gate that will unlock once the ID card is approved. The gate would need to be locked all the time.

I agree. My point was that many of those complaining about the pools being overrun have absolutely no idea who is a resident/guest and who is not. I have no doubt that there are violators out there. I would love a workable idea for how to stop them. I haven’t seen anything yet that would cost less than $5M.

I could get behind being asked to get out of the pool to show IDs. It would be annoying and an inconvenience but I think it would be okay with me. If that is enough to solve the problem or quiet the online complaints then let’s do it.

Plus, that swimsuit bottom has a velvet purse in addition the pocket. Most of those purses can fit a can of soda if they wanted to do so.

I've never been at a public pool in the 11 years I've been here, but God help the person that would attempt to "bash" me.

Gosh, the last time I was at my neighborhood pool, there were over a hundred non residents on the pool deck. When the pools and rec person came by, they all jumped in the pool causing a tidal wave.

I know this for a fact!

Geesh, most people at pool side, at best, know a few of their neighbors. Most people would not be able to detect a non-resident if their life depended on it. Of course, in The Villages, we always accept the word of a person who says they "KNOW" that other pool attendees were non-residents. What total hogwash!!!

Once in a while
 

Once in a great while we have Middleton residents using our pool. We have never reported it because they are respectful and don’t cause problems.

Unfortunately, because of Lifestyle Visits and the Villages company's rental division, you can't forbid short-term renters having passes.

However maybe the rules of the pools and amenities can be changed so that ONLY short-term renters who rent through the Villages holding llc can get those passes, and any other short-term renters must have an actual resident (snowbird or full time) accompanying them to any amenities.

The Villages Property Management does a pretty good job of vetting tenants for short-term stays, and maintaining the properties that it manages.

Another option would be to make it so that the only people who can rent short-term and get guest passes, are people renting in properties that are managed by an actual licensed property management company (not just the Villages PM). Airbnb tenants, or tenants of individuals who don't go through websites to rent - can't get guest passes unless they are IN the residence when their guests are there.

If they get caught letting guests use amenities when the resident is not in the community at the time, then they lose their right to having any guest passes for the next year. If they get caught doing it again, they lose their right to have any guest passes at all.

Guests stay with the homeowner for free, tenants pay rent. Guest passes are for guests, not short term tenants (business customers). Short term tenants should not be allowed to have guest passes at all since they are not guests. Long term tenants (those renting for a month or longer), can get resident passes for a $50 fee if the homeowner renting to them turns in their resident ID.

And that proves what? Just cause you say it does not make it true.

You going to pay for all of them. Do not look to most people to pay for something that is not really needed.

From the District Weekly Bulletin April 10, 2025

https://www.districtgov.org/wp-conte...ition-15-2.pdf

And the:

Community Amenities: Facts About, April 8, 2025

Recent discussions within our community have raised questions about the use and protection of the amenity system in The Villages. To ensure everyone has accurate information, we’d like to remind residents about our established access policies.

See:

Community Amenities: Facts About Access and Usage - The Villages Community Development Districts


Guest & Resident ID Info

https://www.districtgov.org/wp-conte...25-1619669.pdf

Rest assured...
 

For any who want the bottom line details about the recent info provided by District Gov, here it is:

From October 2024 through February 2025, 1,026,767 IDs were checked, and 159,374 guest passes were issued. Only 168 instances (less than 1%) of guest ID non-compliance were recorded, with 514 instances (less than 1%) of residents without IDs.

Statistics.....

It would be nice to know how many of those ID checks were at the 100ish neighborhood and family pools where most of the concerns are coming from. If all of them were, then that amounts to about 65 checks at EVERY pool EVERY day. I doubt 65 people per day come to the two pools in my area COMBINED. Maybe there are neighborhood pools that had many more people use them in December and January.

If those checks include checks at events at the rec centers then I know I account for at least 14 of them but I didn't go to a pool at all during that time.

What is a "guest ID non-compliance"? Is that a bonafide guest who was not issued a pass, a guest who was issued a pass but was not carrying it, or a non-guest sneaking into the pool?

I believe there are non-residents sneaking into the pools
I don't believe the pools are being overrun with outsiders
I appreciate seeing numbers that speak to the issue
I don't appreciate feeling the numbers were carefully selected to look good

Well said. That whole "less than 1%" BS that they've been spouting for years means absolutely nothing. They are only taking into account people who WERE checked and didn't have ID. They like to skip over the thousands who NEVER get checked.

At any time you can request someone to check a pool for the Thousands you are identifying. Complaining won’t get things under control. The family pools at Recreation Centers have an on site employee. Point out the 50 or so that are in violation and have them removed.

Then again it is always fun to tell the territorial older people between the 6’s at the neighborhood pool. “Ya I don’t live in TV, I just like to stop and use the pool”

It’s so fun to see their :rant-rave: face when CW tells them “They have IDs”

First paragraph makes no sense. Of course, they didn't only check pools.

Second paragraph - Why ask here? Call District Gov if the answer to that interests you.

Way less than 1% so that immediately goes into "I don't care" territory for me.

I wish people would focus more on things that actually matter like actual TV residents doing things that they shouldn't be doing, or the developer doing things they shouldn't be doing.

Good for you if you think the pool use is unimportant to YOUR CDD bill

Well, for some of us that live here our number one priority is the use of the adult pools for keeping our health as many of us can't walk, pickle ball or golf for health.

I think many of you dismiss how important the pools are for those of that can't join in golf and other amenities. We wish we could.

But it's still important to US that the pools maintain villagers only, like you think it's important for golf courses, pickle ball, etc for members only. And we still pay the same CDD as YOU do. Be respectful for those of us that can't enjoy the mainstream amenities. We still pay the $200 like you do.

Willing to bet a lot of these people are "friends" of villagers and then you have villager family.
The amount we all pay for the upkeep is high and it will get much worse than this going forward.


Do you notice the higher amount of trash spewed around on the modal paths certain times of the year? That is from family, friends, and snow birds. We pay for that too.

In the end, there isn't much you can do unless you want to pay a lot more and have much more stricter rules placed on residents.

Our answer to these issues is to sell and move out. Then we can be one of "those " people!!

Everglades
 

Checking ID's this week

So, in other words, it is "fun" to waste the time of the community watch????? While they're checking the ID of a legitimate resident having "fun", how many non-residents are sneaking in and getting away with it?????

Below is a sign that I would like to see adapted to all our pools, courts and golf courses, clearly stating the trespassing statute. The statistics cited above are ambiguous, but if they CAUGHT 168 freeloaders in 5 months, we can assume there are many more, and even one is too many. Yes, it would cost a lot to stop them, but I would offer another solution---prosecute those caught to the fullest extent of the law and publicize it area wide. If these trespassers realize that the consequences of taking a dip in our pools significantly outweighs the benefit, the word will get around that we do not tolerate this type of behavior. If they are a minor, prosecute the responsible parents.

Has anyone brought up the possibility of using wrist bands similar to what the resorts use?

Every business has to weigh many factors when adopting (or choosing not to) comprehensive policies.

From marketing, publicity and general Villager experience perspectives - I get why TV manages it the way that they do. On the whole, it likely provides the greatest benefit this way....by utilizing spot checks and not creating a scene or public legal disputes.

There are problems with that idea. Would the bands be removable? They pretty much would have to be, in which case they can be lost, stolen, or lent to others. Could 6 people enter on one band? Maybe every resident should have an implantable chip that activates the gate :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Can I sign up to implant the chip? Need a new hobby

Only within the jurisdictional borders of the Village of Stu

Disagree. TV is not a department store or restaurant. The population that needs to be catered to are the residents and those that are likely to become residents. Teenager tenants of apartment buildings on our borders don’t fit into either category