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Shimpy 06-23-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy-Guy (Post 897395)
A couple of years ago there was a mobile home park on the east coast that had a hundred or so plots that a developer wanted to buy. The developer was offering a million dollars or more for each plot but it was all or nothing. There was a lot of people that wanted to sell and there were many that said they didn't care about the money and wouldn't sell for any amount. The deal fell through and as far as I know the mobile home park is still there and it was on the coast.


That was in the West Palm Beach area on A1A.

Bizdoc 06-23-2014 04:45 PM

Of course, if you want a fun rumor, maybe they want to build a theme park there based on The Lord of The Rings... "One Ring to rule them all..." I nominate Grace to be Galadriel.

mrfixit 06-23-2014 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Indy-Guy (Post 897395)
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A couple of years ago there was a mobile home park on the east coast that had a hundred or so plots that a developer wanted to buy. The developer was offering a million dollars or more for each plot but it was all or nothing.

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.... also happened to "Briny Breezes, Fl 33435" in Palm Beach County.......

Jean Francois Roy offered $510 Million for the 488 lots in 2006....
..........................................that was also an all or nothing deal.

Places for sale...NOW between $ 130,000 and $192,000 for 1 BR trailers.


NOW...can anybody explain to me exactly how the Historic side became part of
"The Villages"..........
ALL residential property IN The Villages are located in CDD's numbered 1 thru 11.
Nothing on the Historic side is in any of the residential CDD's in The Villages.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-23-2014 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mrfixit (Post 897533)
.... also happened to "Briny Breezes, Fl 33435" in Palm Beach County.......

Jean Francois Roy offered $510 Million for the 488 lots in 2006....
..........................................that was also an all or nothing deal.

Places for sale...NOW between $ 130,000 and $192,000 for 1 BR trailers.


NOW...can anybody explain to me exactly how the Historic side became part of
"The Villages"..........
ALL residential property IN The Villages are located in CDD's numbered 1 thru 11.
Nothing on the Historic side is in any of the residential CDD's in The Villages.

The Villages was started in the historic district.

Harold Schwartz, a Michigan businessman, began selling land tracts via mail order in The Villages area in the 1960s. He and his business partner Al Tarrson were put out of business by a 1968 Federal law that banned mail order sales of real estate.

Stuck with considerable portions of Florida land, in the early 1970s Schwartz and Tarrson began development of a mobile home park, Orange Blossom Gardens, in the northwestern corner of Lake County. By the early 1980s, the community had sold only 400 units. Trying to improve the business, Schwartz decided to buy out Tarrson's interest and bring his son, H. Gary Morse, on board in 1983.

Morse noted that the successful retirement communities (such as Del Webb's Sun City developments) offered numerous well-maintained amenities to the residents. They also had diverse and nearby commercial development. Morse began to significantly upgrade the development. Their sales improved in the mid-1980s. Schwartz began to buy large tracts of land in nearby Sumter and Marion counties for future expansion. In 1992 Morse officially changed the overall development name to The Villages. The development is still controlled in all major aspects by descendants of Schwartz and Morse.

There are people in my neighborhood that knew Harold Schwartz. They all say that he was a wonderful guy whose only goal in life was to give people an affordable Florida retirement. He was often seen walking around the neighborhood and would often invite residents that he didn't know into his home for lemonade. His house is still there on the corner of Tarrson and Aloha.

So the question really should be, how did everything southwest of 27/441 become part of The Villages.

BTW, I believe that we are included in the VCCDD

VT2TV 06-23-2014 07:23 PM

unbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!!

andercat 06-23-2014 07:43 PM

30 to 40 mobiles
 
We just purchased a home on the Historic side one week ago. We are going to remodel it. It is a stick built home that needs to be freshened up. When we were under contract but not yet closed, our sales representative called and told us that the developer had bought 30 to 40 mobiles and he would be tearing them down and replacing them with stick built homes. They would put up homes similar to Villa homes because the lots would be a good size for Villa homes. She said it was an attempt to revitalize the area.

That's all I know.

chuckinca 06-23-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mrfixit (Post 897533)
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NOW...can anybody explain to me exactly how the Historic side became part of
"The Villages"..........
ALL residential property IN The Villages are located in CDD's numbered 1 thru 11.
Nothing on the Historic side is in any of the residential CDD's in The Villages.


I believe the historic side and other villages in Lake County are in the Town of Lady Lake and have city services from the town.

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ilovetv 06-23-2014 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by andercat (Post 897560)
We just purchased a home on the Historic side one week ago. We are going to remodel it. It is a stick built home that needs to be freshened up. When we were under contract but not yet closed, our sales representative called and told us that the developer had bought 30 to 40 mobiles and he would be tearing them down and replacing them with stick built homes. They would put up homes similar to Villa homes because the lots would be a good size for Villa homes. She said it was an attempt to revitalize the area.

That's all I know.

Sounds like a great idea. A large infusion (even bigger than 30-40) of new homes (that would sell fast) would prove to the other owners that it is worth it to invest in renovating or rebuilding their old, decaying mobiles. It would bring up all the property values if many would get replaced with a new home.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-23-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by andercat (Post 897560)
We just purchased a home on the Historic side one week ago. We are going to remodel it. It is a stick built home that needs to be freshened up. When we were under contract but not yet closed, our sales representative called and told us that the developer had bought 30 to 40 mobiles and he would be tearing them down and replacing them with stick built homes. They would put up homes similar to Villa homes because the lots would be a good size for Villa homes. She said it was an attempt to revitalize the area.

That's all I know.

There are several homes over here that are in or about to go into foreclosure. maybe the developer is planning on buying those. There are also several frame homes and block home on sites where manufactured homes once stood. Some of these were people who just wanted to upgrade and some were homes that were foreclosed on or abandoned and were purchased for about $39,000 which is about the value of the lot.

Believe it or not, some people live over here because they want to.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 06-23-2014 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 897565)
I believe the historic side and other villages in Lake County are in the Town of Lady Lake and have city services from the town.

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Well, I get an amenities and water bill from VCCDD every month.

2BNTV 06-23-2014 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andercat (Post 897560)
We just purchased a home on the Historic side one week ago. We are going to remodel it. It is a stick built home that needs to be freshened up. When we were under contract but not yet closed, our sales representative called and told us that the developer had bought 30 to 40 mobiles and he would be tearing them down and replacing them with stick built homes. They would put up homes similar to Villa homes because the lots would be a good size for Villa homes. She said it was an attempt to revitalize the area.

That's all I know.

:agree:

VLS agent informed me that 40 houses were bought and will be upgraded for resale.

Who knows if that number will increase..... but Gary Morse knows!!! :D

chuckinca 06-23-2014 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 897579)
Well, I get an amenities and water bill from VCCDD every month.

http://www.ladylake.org/wp-content/u...g-Town-Map.pdf

recognize anything?

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mrdarcy 06-24-2014 12:15 AM

Gary and Mark Morse are acting consistently with how they've acted for the past 4 decades. They want to maintain the value of real estate in The Villages. They are purchasing manufactured homes in the historic district in order to replace them with site built homes (cottages and villas). They are paying fair market value for the homes. Owners are getting pretty much what they're asking for their properties. No one is cheating or being cheated in the process. The evidence of quality and value is everywhere in The Villages. The Morses are simply doing more of the same that attracted each of us to this community in the first place.

Halibut 06-24-2014 01:15 AM

The historic side is part of Village Center district.

Bonanza 06-24-2014 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Indy-Guy (Post 897395)
There are between 600 and 700 homes in the historical side of The Villages. That would be 600 to 700 separate negations which would be a nightmare.

A couple of years ago there was a mobile home park on the east coast that had a hundred or so plots that a developer wanted to buy. The developer was offering a million dollars or more for each plot but it was all or nothing. There was a lot of people that wanted to sell and there were many that said they didn't care about the money and wouldn't sell for any amount. The deal fell through and as far as I know the mobile home park is still there and it was on the coast.

You are exactly correct about the mobile home park in southeast Florida.

I was living in that area at the time. That park, just under 500 units, is called Briny Breezes (located just east of Boynton Beach) and it is old and kind of shabby. You can barely drive a car down what they call a street.

BUT . . . it was right on the ocean! And yes, it was no big surprise that they couldn't get all the residents to agree, even for a million dollars!

:shocked:


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