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pandres 11-28-2019 01:03 PM

We are all individuals with individual tastes. It's hard to please everyone and I think that is why we have entertainment at three squares to choose from every day. I have my favorite musical performers that I frequent and I think most residents also have their favorites. I know what to expect in terms of loudness from each of my favorites and I am never disappointed.

Fredster 11-28-2019 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1697719)
My opinion is, when you go somewhere to listen to music, and it's too loud for you, you are getting too old to relax and have a good time. The name is Johnny WILD and the delights, not chamber music.

:bigbow:

Fredster 11-28-2019 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1697707)
When we first came here for a visit four years ago, we enjoyed the music at Lake Sumter.

Tonight we were up there and they had Johnny Wild (or Dee) and his group playing some good music. At the first part of the second set, they turned it up so loud that we could not stand it, even if sat back by the lake. So we left.

We have noticed that other groups are louder than they used to be.

What is your opinion?

We were there and back by the radio station and the music was fun and most enjoyable!

VApeople 11-28-2019 01:24 PM

It is nice to see that some of you agree with me that the music can be painfully loud when certain groups are playing.

We sometimes sit back by the lake so the sound is not too bad, but then we can't see the performers, so it is not any better than just hearing music on Youtube. Actually, Youtube is better because there are a lot of good videos, even some of the homemade ones.

Anyway, thanks for all of your opinions.

graciegirl 11-28-2019 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by wielen (Post 1697774)
Yes the music is way way too loud at the squares!! When you ask the sound guy to please turn it down he laughs at you and then proceeds to turn the volume higher!! You know what we pay for this music would be nice if we could enjoy it at a decent noise level!! But then who are we only the people who live here and listen to the sound barrier breaking music!!!

The musicians are paid for by the merchants on the square. But perhaps you are a merchant.

talktome 11-28-2019 02:11 PM

Agree! I won't go to the squares anymore for that reason. MUSIC WAY TOO LOUD!

OlifOlif 11-28-2019 03:56 PM

What about the band that played that set the other week? Tony says is was not enough for him to hear! Betty though so too!

Ben Franklin 11-28-2019 04:46 PM

Don't sit next to the speakers ;-)

Altavia 11-28-2019 06:15 PM

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My Apple Watch Noise app often triggers over 90 dB at the squares in the seating areas.

More than 30 minutes day or over 4 hrs a week at that level can cause hearing loss.

Impact may be more diminished in those with cumulitive hearing loss but I'd be especially careful limiting the time with children in the squares.

How to Protect Your Hearing With the Apple Watch Noise App | PCMag.com

UpNorth 11-28-2019 06:36 PM

Better enjoy the performers while you can. Most of them will be getting deaf soon, so new acts will need to take their place.:icon_wink:

EdFNJ 11-28-2019 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie0723 (Post 1697893)
My Apple Watch Noise app often triggers over 90 dB at the squares in the seating areas.

More than 30 minutes day or over 4 hrs a week at that level can cause hearing loss.

Impact may be more diminished in those with cumulitive hearing loss but I'd be especially careful limiting the time with children in the squares.

How to Protect Your Hearing With the Apple Watch Noise App | PCMag.com


I have the A.W. 4 also but use another APP called Decibel X Pro. As I mentioned in an earlier post that app has a coupe times hit over 100db at the square by the booze house and often above 90db sitting in front of Starbucks for the louder groups. The answer is NOT "move out of The Villages" or "go somewhere else to listen to music". It is just possible they have their levels turned up a bit high at various times. For the SAME BAND (Johnny Wild as a specific example) sometimes it is not bad but sometimes it is painful. They have no set levels. The guy from the sound booth runs all around playing with the levels on his tablet. He controls each connected instrument, and each microphone. individually. The "consistency" changed after LSL and SS squares upgraded their sound system and lighting. Brownwood always had the newer equipment. Sometimes even the
relatively "quiet" solo performer with the prerecorded music behind her has vocal volume turned way too high. They are not as bothersome but still not properly balanced for the area and way above what it should be for the size of the listening area.

EdFNJ 11-28-2019 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 1697897)
Better enjoy the performers while you can. Most of them will be getting deaf soon, so new acts will need to take their place.:icon_wink:

Like Rocky and the Elders? :D :D

laryb 11-28-2019 07:33 PM

Every concert I've ever been to, and I've seen many of the greats, was loud. IMHO, unless you're listening to ballads, love songs, or the old standards, rock n' roll is supposed to be loud. Maybe a pair of foam earplugs might be the answer.

WickedMike 11-28-2019 08:21 PM

Yes some residents may be hard of hearing but with the loud music we will all develop hearing problems. Usually the break time music is much lower and tolerable. There a difference in loud and intolerable!!

EdFNJ 11-28-2019 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by laryb (Post 1697906)
Every concert I've ever been to, and I've seen many of the greats, was loud. IMHO, unless you're listening to ballads, love songs, or the old standards, rock n' roll is supposed to be loud. Maybe a pair of foam earplugs might be the answer.

THese are NOT CONCERTS that you are going to in professional venues. it's daily entertainment for the Villages "in the park." You're missing the point (well, my point, maybe not everyone's). We've gone just about every night for the last 2 1/2 years and the music was never THIS loud. It changed markedly and varies greatly. Loud is one thing, painful is another. It was not always that way. Now the same band on 2 different appearances at the same place can be twice as loud as the time before which was only a week or 2 earlier. These shows aren't intended for people in their 20's and 30's it for people generally 55+++. There is no need for dangerously loud music especially when it is different for the same band from one performance to the next. It's NOT THE BAND, it's the guy playing with sound levels in the booth.

Challenger 11-29-2019 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1697920)
THese are NOT CONCERTS that you are going to in professional venues. it's daily entertainment for the Villages "in the park." You're missing the point (well, my point, maybe not everyone's). We've gone just about every night for the last 2 1/2 years and the music was never THIS loud. It changed markedly and varies greatly. Loud is one thing, painful is another. It was not always that way. Now the same band on 2 different appearances at the same place can be twice as loud as the time before which was only a week or 2 earlier. These shows aren't intended for people in their 20's and 30's it for people generally 55+++. There is no need for dangerously loud music especially when it is different for the same band from one performance to the next. It's NOT THE BAND, it's the guy playing with sound levels in the booth.

We go sometimes in the evenings to LSL for a sit out dinner. The last two times, the music has been so loud, that we could not carry on a conversation over dinner. Probably will avoid LSL in the evenings, until things get back to normal db ranges

Love2Swim 11-29-2019 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN (Post 1697853)
I am trying to post a new idea but can’t find where you click on new post. My question is does anyone know for sure if they will be charging for premier seating at New Years squares. Three very good entertainers. Scooter, Johnny Wild, and the hooligans. I’m sure if they charged 50 bucks to see a tree lighting, they will charge for New Years eve

Good question.

gmpipi@aol.com 11-29-2019 07:14 AM

Most enjoy the added vibes the added volume produced!

Villagevip 11-29-2019 07:50 AM

The music has to be loud for those that desire to hear it...This, B/C everyone sitting around, are loudly yapping away to everyone around them..Really, not there to listen to music! NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!

VApeople 11-29-2019 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1697920)
It's NOT THE BAND, it's the guy playing with sound levels in the booth.

That is not true.

When Johnny Wild was playing at LSL a few days ago, one of the band members asked to have the volume increased.

After they sang "Surfin Safari" at a reasonable volume at the beginning of the second set, the curly haired guy on Johnny's left asked to have the amplifiers increased, and the next piece of music was unbearable. So we left.

dennisgavin 11-29-2019 08:09 AM

Depends on the group. I actually complimented a group one night for their sound levels. Their music was full but not blasting. It is a mix between the band and whoever is working the sound board. One night months ago American Martian was playing and it was intolerable.
I played in a band when I was young and know the difference between a good full sound and too loud. Louder does not mean better. IT can ruin what is otherwise good talent.

Bay Kid 11-29-2019 08:40 AM

Beauty of hearing aids.

brookesil 11-29-2019 08:51 AM

Agree

Fredster 11-29-2019 09:01 AM

There are just too many ways to deal with it if you feel it’s too loud,
like earplugs, hearing aid adjustment, add distance between you and speakers, or just don’t attend.

Shambles 11-29-2019 10:30 AM

I played in quite a few bands and did a lot of recording sessions back in the 60s and 70s. In a couple of our bands, we had a professional, experienced sound engineer and a high quality sound system. The sound man is, in effect, the producer of the band when they're on stage, and his competence and preferences can either enhance or diminish their performance. Every venue has different acoustics and it's difficult for the band to know how they sound out front. If you think it's too loud, moving further away from the stage would help. Or, you could try going over to the sound booth and politely asking them to turn it down. Occasionally if I think it sounds really good, I'll go over and compliment the sound man.They really appreciate that.

EdFNJ 11-29-2019 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 1697928)
We go sometimes in the evenings to LSL for a sit out dinner. The last two times, the music has been so loud, that we could not carry on a conversation over dinner. Probably will avoid LSL in the evenings, until things get back to normal db ranges


Exactly my point and experience. Many folks here have my favorite intelligent answer to solve every comment which I see in just about every thread where someone complains (ie. posts their opinion) about something they don't agree with:


1) If you don't like it here move
2) Quit whining
3) grow up
4) move further away
5) eat somewhere else
yada yada yada


:1rotfl:

EdFNJ 11-29-2019 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1697947)
That is not true.

When Johnny Wild was playing at LSL a few days ago, one of the band members asked to have the volume increased.

After they sang "Surfin Safari" at a reasonable volume at the beginning of the second set, the curly haired guy on Johnny's left asked to have the amplifiers increased, and the next piece of music was unbearable. So we left.

That's a good data point for that specific experience but in general it doesn't happen in that way. A couple days ago when some single performer singing jazz was onstage it was just as bad and I'm sure she didn't ask the volume to be turned up. Her mic was so hot that you could hear the hairs in her nose wiggling when she breathed across the street. :D

bagboy 11-29-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by EdFNJ (Post 1698012)
Exactly my point and experience. Many folks here have my favorite intelligent answer to solve every comment which I see in just about every thread where someone complains (ie. posts their opinion) about something they don't agree with:


1) If you don't like it here move
2) Quit whining
3) grow up
4) move further away
5) eat somewhere else
yada yada yada


:1rotfl:


6) contact the entertainment department and have a conversation with someone who may actually be able to look into the volume and determine if there is a problem and fix it if one exists.

Topspinmo 11-29-2019 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1697707)
When we first came here for a visit four years ago, we enjoyed the music at Lake Sumter.

Tonight we were up there and they had Johnny Wild (or Dee) and his group playing some good music. At the first part of the second set, they turned it up so loud that we could not stand it, even if sat back by the lake. So we left.

We have noticed that other groups are louder than they used to be.

What is your opinion?

Yes, there too loud, but the drunks don’t care 🤷*♂️

Topspinmo 11-29-2019 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1697970)
There are just too many ways to deal with it if you feel it’s too loud,
like earplugs, hearing aid adjustment, add distance between you and speakers, or just don’t attend.

I like the just don’t attend

Topspinmo 11-29-2019 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 1697956)
Beauty of hearing aids.


Don’t you mean ear plugs

Topspinmo 11-29-2019 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1697871)
We were there and back by the radio station and the music was fun and most enjoyable!

Naturally on the back side of the speakers

Topspinmo 11-29-2019 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JimJohnson (Post 1697739)
Considering the cost, I think they are perfect.

Yep, can’t put price on deafness

jackie wark 11-29-2019 01:28 PM

we agree........we had same experience. Couldn't hear it partly because people in the back rows were making such a noise

Fredster 11-29-2019 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1698026)
Naturally on the back side of the speakers

So if the music is too loud, the back side
might be a solution for many!

Aces4 11-29-2019 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1697970)
There are just too many ways to deal with it if you feel it’s too loud,
like earplugs, hearing aid adjustment, add distance between you and speakers, or just don’t attend.

Easier to deal with it if you have poor hearing, turn down your hearing aids.

That would save the hearing that the normal people and children have in the area.

retiredguy123 11-29-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Fredster (Post 1697970)
There are just too many ways to deal with it if you feel it’s too loud,
like earplugs, hearing aid adjustment, add distance between you and speakers, or just don’t attend.

Your last suggestion applies to me. I just don't attend. I stay away from all musical events. Too loud.

tophcfa 11-30-2019 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by VApeople (Post 1697707)
When we first came here for a visit four years ago, we enjoyed the music at Lake Sumter.

Tonight we were up there and they had Johnny Wild (or Dee) and his group playing some good music. At the first part of the second set, they turned it up so loud that we could not stand it, even if sat back by the lake. So we left.

We have noticed that other groups are louder than they used to be.

What is your opinion?

I have never heard any music that is unbearably loud, but I have heard lots of music that is unbearable to listen to. This is especially true most recently, as the trend in the music selection has changed to more disco etc.... Bring back the old rock and roll bands and get rid of the newer stuff, my wife and I can't dance to that garbage.

Lovey2 11-30-2019 06:58 AM

:Yes. The music has been raised for about a year now. When I mentioned it I was told the squares aren't places to socialize, just listen to music. :shocked: I disagree. The squares aren't as enjoyable to me as they once were. You cannot quietly socialize with friends, but are forced to yell...which is annoying...both to the yeller and the listener and the surrounding people.

billlaur 11-30-2019 07:59 AM

the louder the better ….LOUD IS GOOD....They should crank it up more...:coolsmiley:


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