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CFrance 11-06-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jblum315 (Post 964146)
If you would rather they P on your lawn, just put up a sign workers please P here

NO WAIT!!! Some dog might misinterpret that.:cryin2:

TheVillageChicken 11-06-2014 10:02 AM

Somewhere in The Villages someone who just peed in the swimming pool says, "The nerve of that landscaping guy...using our restroom."

sunnyatlast 11-06-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by theorem painter (Post 964200)
Both my husband and I were probation officers for 35 years so we certainly are not naive when it comes to service people in our home. I would never be home alone with a service person or would I allow them to use our bathroom unescorted.

Thank you.

And again, the pool restrooms are not public toilets.

The developers built nice public restrooms that look like beach cabanas beside Lake Sumter at the town square.

Maybe they should build some designated public restrooms at the shopping centers like Colony and Pinellas.

Also, it can be quite unnerving as a female taking a shower at Mulberry, Colony or Laurel Manor sport pools, knowing that any tom, dick and harry stops in off the highways of 42, 466 and 466-A to use the toilets whose doorways are shared with the shower and dressing rooms, and the doors simply push/pull open without latches!!

Bogie Shooter 11-06-2014 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 964309)
Thank you.

And again, the pool restrooms are not public toilets.

The developers built nice public restrooms that look like beach cabanas beside Lake Sumter at the town square.

Maybe they should build some designated public restrooms at the shopping centers like Colony and Pinellas.

Also, it can be quite unnerving as a female taking a shower at Mulberry, Colony or Laurel Manor sport pools, knowing that any tom, dick and harry stops in off the highways of 42, 466 and 466-A to use the toilets whose doorways are shared with the shower and dressing rooms, and the doors simply push/pull open without latches!!

Is this the first mention of sports pools?

redwitch 11-06-2014 01:20 PM

You couldn't pay me to take a shower at the sports pool. I'm not overly concerned about one of the workers barging in for a peek, I'd be more worried about Villager barging in for a quick peek.

As to more public restrooms in the squares or shopping centers, get real. One, it would take up space needed for shops and parking. Two, the distance would be too great for most workers to get to the bathroom, use the toilet and return to the worksite. Three, most employees of lawn maintenance personnel ride in their supervisor's vehicle. I really can't see the supervisor being willing to go out of the scheduled route for a worker to use a toilet when there are easily accessible, legal facilities available.

handyman 11-07-2014 12:34 AM

aminity fees are paid by property owners ,not contractors
 
Port a johns could easily be placed at the many maintenance facilities all over the Villages,the restrooms at the pools are not public,this should have been nipped at bud years ago before it became a common practice!

mulligan 11-07-2014 06:17 AM

OK folks, time for a little common sense. There are literally hundreds of pickup trucks with 12' trailers full of lawn equipment in TV every day. Suppose just 8 laborers had need for a toilet at the same time, and they all headed for the public restrooms at LSL. What would traffic look like when all 12 parked there ? What would their fellow workers do when their 10 minute lawnmowing job was completed, and the truck didn't come back for another 1/2 hour ? How many of you would whine about all the extra traffic ? Give these guys a break. They're just trying to make a living. The bathrooms get cleaned daily, and most (I said MOST) pool users don't actually use them anyway.

jblum315 11-07-2014 06:37 AM

Right. Pool users mostly pee in the pool, I suspect

CFrance 11-07-2014 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 964704)
OK folks, time for a little common sense. There are literally hundreds of pickup trucks with 12' trailers full of lawn equipment in TV every day. Suppose just 8 laborers had need for a toilet at the same time, and they all headed for the public restrooms at LSL. What would traffic look like when all 12 parked there ? What would their fellow workers do when their 10 minute lawnmowing job was completed, and the truck didn't come back for another 1/2 hour ? How many of you would whine about all the extra traffic ? Give these guys a break. They're just trying to make a living. The bathrooms get cleaned daily, and most (I said MOST) pool users don't actually use them anyway.

Good point.:clap2:

And as for placing portajohns all over the place... Ew.

graciegirl 11-07-2014 08:28 AM

Be nice. Share.

No big deal. The folks who build our houses aren't a bunch of aliens and perverts. Well maybe a few, but we have our own homegrown ones too.

I say, the most important thing is to keep the adjoining developments from not using our pool toilets. Who KNOWS what they have?

I am JUST kidding about the adjoining developments.

But what difference is it going to make if we allow someone to relieve themselves in our pool restrooms?????

What if, at the end, when we climb the pearly stairs, that the first thing out of St. Peter's mouth is...."ARE YOU THE ONE WHO DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE THE POOL JOHN's in THE VILLAGES? Just look over my shoulder, Gary Morse is holding a big party, and you are not invited. You have to spend five years banging on the potty door before you are let into upper paradise."

Think about it.

janmcn 11-07-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by handyman (Post 964693)
Port a johns could easily be placed at the many maintenance facilities all over the Villages,the restrooms at the pools are not public,this should have been nipped at bud years ago before it became a common practice!


The developer still owns 95% of the facilities south of CR466, and as the owner, would be the only one to set a policy on the use of these facilities. Once they are turned over to the districts, then residents might have a say in this matter.

graciegirl 11-07-2014 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 964788)
The developer still owns 95% of the facilities south of CR466, and as the owner, would be the only one to set a policy on the use of these facilities. Once they are turned over to the districts, then residents might have a say in this matter.

AND may that NEVER happen.

Uptown Girl 11-07-2014 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 964788)
The developer still owns 95% of the facilities south of CR466, and as the owner, would be the only one to set a policy on the use of these facilities.

Exactly.

tommy steam 11-07-2014 10:17 AM

I met a couple who moved down here a short while ago from Murrell Inlet SC . He said it was a wonderful place to live when the developer ran the show. Some years later, the residents got control and it went down hill fast. He said the residents who were elected to run the place had thier own personal agenda and there was a lot of infighting.

Wandatime 11-07-2014 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 964181)
What was said on this issue some time ago.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...y-pools-15655/

Yes, it sure seems what goes around comes around. Maybe we should start a thread on dog poop. THAT's never been discussed before.

Bogie Shooter 11-07-2014 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by tommy steam (Post 964821)
I met a couple who moved down here a short while ago from Murrell Inlet SC . He said it was a wonderful place to live when the developer ran the show. Some years later, the residents got control and it went down hill fast. He said the residents who were elected to run the place had thier own personal agenda and there was a lot of infighting.

A lot more information is needed to accept this with a grain of salt.
How many homes, number of board members, their term in office, etc.
You cannot compare that place with TV and make any assumptions.

Barefoot 11-07-2014 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mulligan (Post 964704)
OK folks, time for a little common sense. There are literally hundreds of pickup trucks with 12' trailers full of lawn equipment in TV every day. Suppose just 8 laborers had need for a toilet at the same time, and they all headed for the public restrooms at LSL. What would traffic look like when all 12 parked there ? What would their fellow workers do when their 10 minute lawnmowing job was completed, and the truck didn't come back for another 1/2 hour ? How many of you would whine about all the extra traffic ? Give these guys a break. They're just trying to make a living. The bathrooms get cleaned daily, and most (I said MOST) pool users don't actually use them anyway.

Well said. :agree:
It's preposterous and unworkable to expect workers to use the bathrooms at LSL or hold their P all day.
Workers would have to start charging more for their time because lengthy P breaks would have to be added into the pricing structure.
And who would be the first to complain about that?
Have a heart.

sunnyatlast 11-07-2014 01:10 PM

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FlamingoFlo 11-07-2014 01:24 PM

I'm trying so hard to understand why people are against workers using the bathrooms. Gosh, it's a bathroom at a pool. I just don't see the big deal here.

Barefoot 11-07-2014 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingoFlo (Post 964950)
I'm trying so hard to understand why people are against workers using the bathrooms. Gosh, it's a bathroom at a pool. I just don't see the big deal here.

If you figure out why, please share it here.
Like you, I don't understand the problem.

iaudit 11-07-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 964788)
The developer still owns 95% of the facilities south of CR466, and as the owner, would be the only one to set a policy on the use of these facilities. Once they are turned over to the districts, then residents might have a say in this matter.

The recreation facilities will never be controlled by the residents. They will eventually be turned over to the central CDD which are controlled by the developer.

Bogie Shooter 11-07-2014 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 964943)
A "quick peek"???? You must be kidding. Have you ever heard of abductions, rapes and murders?

And I didn't say that "any tom, dick or harry" was a construction or lawn worker. Some Villagers being perverts and criminals is a given!

We have gate cards to open the gates here. I think we could have such cards to open recreation facility bathroom/dressing room doors, too.


That card reader is just above the button to open the gate.........by anybody.
I have not heard of any abductions, rapes and murders at the pools. Who you trying to scare?

jbdlfan 11-07-2014 03:35 PM

Boy, the next thing you know, those Stonecresters will be here using our toilets.....

kcrazorbackfan 11-07-2014 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vinricci (Post 963755)
Tried to use the bathrooms at the Dunedin neighborhood pool and they were both occupied. After a while men came out of both restrooms and got into a landscaping vehicle. When I entered the ladies room it was filthy. My question is, are construction, landscapers and other trades permitted to use those facilities?

Ok, there has been a lot of discussion on this topic; was it ever defined what the filth was? vinricci, would you care to elaborate? Mud slapped on the bank or floaties left are one thing, but if it is just a sink left a little dirty - come on now.

CFrance 11-07-2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jbdlfan (Post 965044)
Boy, the next thing you know, those Stonecresters will be here using our toilets.....

Ew... Stonecrester cooties! :MOJE_whot:

dotti105 11-08-2014 12:02 AM

Just today as I was running errands, I wished there were some convenience stores in TV south of 466. I have seen the circle K's up there, but south of 466 there is NOTHING!!
I was "jonesing" for a Diet Mt Dew, not a restroom.

But if you look at the number of Service providers here, lawn care, electricians, window tint, painting, etc, etc, etc. These guys do have NOWHERE to find a restroom between Brownwood and Lake Sumter Landing. When at the neighborhood pools we have seen guys come in and get water from the fountain and use the restroom. They have always been polite and in and out quickly and quietly.

I certainly do not object to that. We call for repairs and they are always prompt and polite. Why on earth deny them the use of the neighborhood pool restrooms?? I see that as very insensitive!

Oh, and the comment about showering before using the pool. Growing up in Fl. we always used the shower AFTER swimming to get the chlorine off, not BEFORE swimming. That seems to be a practice of our neighbors to the north and seasonal residents. The same with the showers at the beach. Shower AFTER, to get the sand and salt off. No real reason to shower before in either case.

sunnyatlast 11-08-2014 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 965022)
That card reader is just above the button to open the gate.........by anybody.
I have not heard of any abductions, rapes and murders at the pools. Who you trying to scare?

The point is that key card entry can be done affordably. A bypass button to enter without the card is a different matter and doesn't have to be with a card reader.

As for your accusations of "trying to scare" people, are the Sheriff Departments and FL Dept. Of Law Enforcement just whipping up hysteria by publishing the online sex offender registries for us to use?!??!??

https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/of...hoodSearchMain

Bay Kid 11-08-2014 07:43 AM

Better for the workers to use the toilet than go behind the bushes....

graciegirl 11-08-2014 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Bay Kid (Post 965320)
Better for the workers to use the toilet than go behind the bushes....

That's it. You got it Bay Kid.

There are no classes in The Villages. No one group is better than any other group. What would we do without the contractors, builders and lawn care people? And old white women who are know it alls???? That would be me.


Good Morning EVERYONE. It's another wonderful day in THE VILLAGES!!!!

Bogie Shooter 11-08-2014 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 965317)
The point is that key card entry can be done affordably. A bypass button to enter without the card is a different matter and doesn't have to be with a card reader.

As for your accusations of "trying to scare" people, are the Sheriff Departments and FL Dept. Of Law Enforcement just whipping up hysteria by publishing the online sex offender registries for us to use?!??!??

https://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/of...hoodSearchMain

Didn't see anything about any abductions, rapes and murders at the sports pools.

jblum315 11-08-2014 01:41 PM

Hasn't this thread lived long enough?

Uptown Girl 11-08-2014 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 965317)
The point is that key card entry can be done affordably.]

Just because one has/must use a 'key card' does not insure they are of good character.

The real point, is that the developer is in charge and has chosen to allow workers to use the facilities. It is unfortunate if that troubles your sense of security.

To my knowledge there have been no attacks in restrooms here in the long history of our community. If there were, I am certain the news would spread like wildfire. I would invite any real knowledge of dangerous restroom episodes occurring here. I think we all would.

There are people of questionable intent in this world. They can live anywhere and look common, weird or wonderful.

Allowing a guy who works hard for a living, under company supervision, to use a public bathroom when needed is how it is done here.

caseycasebeer 11-08-2014 02:29 PM

It's comforting to know that with all the globe-girdling events going on
(economics/finance, ISIS, ebola, 66% of American's not having faith in their gov't, global warming/cooling, domestic vs international terrorists, the welfare vs warfare State, et al.) we (in The Villages) still have time to devote EIGHT pages of our attention to the truly (sic) important matters of our 'Time. Amazing.

sunnyatlast 11-08-2014 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by caseycasebeer (Post 965507)
It's comforting to know that with all the globe-girdling events going on
(economics/finance, ISIS, ebola, 66% of American's not having faith in their gov't, global warming/cooling, domestic vs international terrorists, the welfare vs warfare State, et al.) we (in The Villages) still have time to devote EIGHT pages of our attention to the truly (sic) important matters of our 'Time. Amazing.

Well it looks like you've been reading it, too.

sunnyatlast 11-08-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Uptown Girl (Post 965487)
Just because one has/must use a 'key card' does not insure they are of good character.

The real point, is that the developer is in charge and has chosen to allow workers to use the facilities. It is unfortunate if that troubles your sense of security.

To my knowledge there have been no attacks in restrooms here in the long history of our community. If there were, I am certain the news would spread like wildfire. I would invite any real knowledge of dangerous restroom episodes occurring here. I think we all would.

There are people of questionable intent in this world. They can live anywhere and look common, weird or wonderful.

Allowing a guy who works hard for a living, under company supervision, to use a public bathroom when needed is how it is done here.

A key card, for one thing, registers an identity of who's entering. The gate cards register in who's coming thru.

If somebody is entering the restrooms/shower facilities for purposes of harming someone, are they going to log themselves in with their ID card? I don't think so.

While we're on that subject, why do we have resident ID cards to enter the rec centers and to use the golf courses, if it's okay for anybody on the street to stop in and use them?

I still think some "rest stop" areas with PUBLIC bathrooms should be built along the main highways like 466 and 466-A etc. They could be set up like the interstate rest stops, where there is area information and refreshments to buy in addition to restrooms. TV could provide sales/visitor information and point people to the sales centers for a tour etc.

And regarding this: "Allowing a guy who works hard for a living, under company supervision, to use a public bathroom when needed is how it is done here"……..

Who says all workers here are "under company supervision"? There are oodles of lawn workers who work on their own, without "company supervision". That's why there's another thread going right now about the LIABILITIES a homeowner can incur by having uninsured workers getting injured on your property, or if they steal or wreck something!

Barefoot 11-08-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by caseycasebeer (Post 965507)
It's comforting to know that with all the globe-girdling events going on
(economics/finance, ISIS, ebola, 66% of American's not having faith in their gov't, global warming/cooling, domestic vs international terrorists, the welfare vs warfare State, et al.) we (in The Villages) still have time to devote EIGHT pages of our attention to the truly (sic) important matters of our 'Time. Amazing.

We bat around a lot of topics on this website, some important, some trivial. :oops:
Please feel free to start a new thread on some of the weighty matters that concern you.

Bogie Shooter 11-08-2014 05:06 PM

This has gone from concern about some guy using the bathroom at the neighborhood pools, to adding some kind of card reader to the doors of the sports pools, to now building rest stops along 466, 466A, Morse Blvd, Buena Vista Blvd and who knows where else. DUH!

iaudit 11-08-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 965543)
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I still think some "rest stop" areas with PUBLIC bathrooms should be built along the main highways like 466 and 466-A etc. They could be set up like the interstate rest stops, where there is area information and refreshments to buy in addition to restrooms. TV could provide sales/visitor information and point people to the sales centers for a tour etc

Really? On whose land , built by who, maintained by who?

sunnyatlast 11-08-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by iaudit (Post 965583)
Really? On whose land , built by who, maintained by who?

The developers can build it, just as they built the public restroom building on Lake Sumter, across from the sales center.

sunnyatlast 11-08-2014 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 965580)
This has gone from concern about some guy using the bathroom at the neighborhood pools, to adding some kind of card reader to the doors of the sports pools, to now building rest stops along 466, 466A, Morse Blvd, Buena Vista Blvd and who knows where else. DUH!

Well DUH to you, too. Since you want the pool restrooms open to whoever comes down the street, how about letting the workers or whomever use the bathrooms inside the neighborhood rec center too. Then they could cool off by shooting some pool at the nice pool tables in there, and they could use the kitchen to make some lunch. Or they could use the picnic pavilion outside the rec center to have lunch and then play some shuffleboard.

Why is it okay to have non-residents use the pool bathrooms and track in mud where barefoot swimmers come in to change clothes and use the bathroom? Obviously many of you have never tried changing clothes in there after workers tracked in mud on their work boots, and the floors are absolutely filthy with no clean place to stand barefoot while dressing. I've done it and seen that mess many times and it's not right.


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