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Barefoot 11-08-2014 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 965580)
This has gone from concern about some guy using the bathroom at the neighborhood pools, to adding some kind of card reader to the doors of the sports pools, to now building rest stops along 466, 466A, Morse Blvd, Buena Vista Blvd and who knows where else. DUH!

And of course our amenity charges would pay for the "enhancements".

sunnyatlast 11-08-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 965601)
And of course our amenity charges would pay for the "enhancements".

Our amenities fees already provide for the bar code reading of our resident ID cards whenever we enter a neighborhood rec center for any activity in there. The pool restrooms are part of the facility which is not public.

skip0358 11-08-2014 06:37 PM

OK it's a Bathroom. You can go into ANY Rec Center to use the Bathroom. The Workers lawn, masons etc. are allowed to use these Bathrooms. Where would you like them to go. Who are we to not allow anyone from using a Bathroom? Contractors clean the pools and Rec Centers at night, so they can't use the Bathroom then either? Guess not many of you have EVER been an outside worker. Are we really the high and mighty? How few people in the pools ever get checked to see IF they belong there? If your in the water you don't get checked. Lighten up a little and give a little kindness to the contractors it might just go a long way. JMO

graciegirl 11-08-2014 06:38 PM

This is the reason I FEAR that someday we will vote on people to run the villages.

Everyone most sincerely believes that they know what is best for all of us.

I hope, hope, hope that nothing changes in my life time.

JSR22 11-08-2014 06:42 PM

Pool Bathrooms
 
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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 965622)
OK it's a Bathroom. You can go into ANY Rec Center to use the Bathroom. The Workers lawn, masons etc. are allowed to use these Bathrooms. Where would you like them to go. Who are we to not allow anyone from using a Bathroom? Contractors clean the pools and Rec Centers at night, so they can't use the Bathroom then either? Guess not many of you have EVER been an outside worker. Are we really the high and mighty? How few people in the pools ever get checked to see IF they belong there? If your in the water you don't get checked. Lighten up a little and give a little kindness to the contractors it might just go a long way. JMO

I 100% agree that the workers be allowed to use the pool bathrooms. The Villages covers many square miles putting a public rest room off of 2 roads would not work. The geographical area is too big. I have never changed my clothes in the pool bathrooms. When I use the bathroom I put on my shoes.

sunnyatlast 11-08-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by skip0358 (Post 965622)
OK it's a Bathroom. You can go into ANY Rec Center to use the Bathroom. The Workers lawn, masons etc. are allowed to use these Bathrooms. Where would you like them to go. Who are we to not allow anyone from using a Bathroom? Contractors clean the pools and Rec Centers at night, so they can't use the Bathroom then either? Guess not many of you have EVER been an outside worker. Are we really the high and mighty? How few people in the pools ever get checked to see IF they belong there? If your in the water you don't get checked. Lighten up a little and give a little kindness to the contractors it might just go a long way. JMO

It's not about being "high and mighty". It's just as the o.p. said: "After a while men came out of both restrooms and got into a landscaping vehicle. When I entered the ladies room it was filthy."

What are men doing in the ladies' room?

I would like to hear how many times, in your former homes and neighborhoods, that you told lawn workers, tree cutters, construction workers, and any other person driving down your street that they could use the restrooms at a neighborhood private pool and tennis club.

That is exactly what you are promoting here. Our neighborhood and regional pool complexes here in TV are private, not public!

For us, the answer is "NEVER" would we have told workers or whomever to use the bathrooms at the private pool-tennis club a couple of blocks away from us in our former neighborhood in the suburbs.

If we had a repair or installation person at our house and they asked to use the bathroom, we allowed them to. But never would we have told the guys outside to go and use private facilities belonging to somebody else. Somehow, they found a place to go, like the gas stations, McDonalds, or wherever else they got their food and drinks.

CFrance 11-08-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 965604)
Our amenities fees already provide for the bar code reading of our resident ID cards whenever we enter a neighborhood rec center for any activity in there. The pool restrooms are part of the facility which is not public.

Setting the entitlement attitude aside, do you really think it would not cost an extra dime to install and maintain card readers at every single pool in TV?

sunnyatlast 11-08-2014 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 965634)
Setting the entitlement attitude aside, do you really think it would not cost an extra dime to install and maintain card readers at every single pool in TV?

Was it "entitlement attitude" when you wrote Mr. Rohan and published the letters on a thread here, about people taking over the neighborhood pools for their own group aerobics etc., which disrespects those who want the facility used for its intended purpose which is relaxation?

Is it "entitlement attitude" when executive golf workers are put in place to log in resident and guest ID cards and to collect trail fees and pull-cart fees when playing executive golf courses?

Is it "entitlement attitude" when people from surrounding towns who are at Spanish Springs for the night go to Katie Belle's and they're told they cannot enter without a resident ID card?

Nobody seems to have a problem with the costs of checking ID cards at those facilities, so why should the pool complexes be open to anybody who comes around and leaves them dirty??

CFrance 11-08-2014 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sunnyatlast (Post 965639)
Was it "entitlement attitude" when you wrote Mr. Rohan and published the letters on a thread here, about people taking over the neighborhood pools for their own group aerobics etc., which disrespects those who want the facility used for its intended purpose which is relaxation?

Is it "entitlement attitude" when executive golf workers are put in place to log in resident and guest ID cards and to collect trail fees and pull-cart fees when playing executive golf courses?

Is it "entitlement attitude" when people from surrounding towns who are at Spanish Springs for the night go to Katie Belle's and they're told they cannot enter without a resident ID card?

Nobody seems to have a problem with the costs of checking ID cards at those facilities, so why should the pool complexes be open to anybody who comes around and leaves them dirty??

We're not talking about outsiders trying to use our pools, golf courses, and Katie Bell's. We're also not talking about people taking over our facilities and using them for purposes not intended by TV. We're talking about workers who are maintaining our homes and TV property having to go to the bathroom, for Pete's sake, and the people who think they don't deserve so much as to take care of a bodily need in our precious restrooms.
How mean-spirited can you get.

JSR22 11-08-2014 07:29 PM

Honestly, I have never seen the pool bathrooms dirty and I use our neighborhood pool 5 days a week. I have been to Katie Belles a number of times and never showed an ID.
I truly believe workers using the neighborhood pool bathrooms is a non issue.

redwitch 11-08-2014 07:53 PM

Sunny, I know you don't believe this but anyone can go into a rec center and use the bathroom. They can even walk around the center and enjoy the decor. They cannot play an activity or join a club (barring a support group or a private event rented by a Villager). If you want, just anyone at the rec centers or call the recreation department.

Personally, there is no way I would walk or step with bare feet in ANY public bathroom. If it is a bathroom used by toddlers or seniors, I will balance myself -- too many misses and too many wet toilet seats and floors. I worry less about a lawn worker using the bathroom than I do many Villagers.

I'm sorry that you have so little compassion for others. I'm sorry your world is upset by humans having human needs.

Maybe those who object could set up a Port-A-Potty in their backyards with a discrete sign in front for these workers.

sunnyatlast 11-08-2014 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 965643)
We're not talking about outsiders trying to use our pools, golf courses, and Katie Bell's. We're also not talking about people taking over our facilities and using them for purposes not intended by TV. We're talking about workers who are maintaining our homes and TV property having to go to the bathroom, for Pete's sake, and the people who think they don't deserve so much as to take care of a bodily need in our precious restrooms.
How mean-spirited can you get.

Call me names if you want, but it's not just the workers we hire at our homes or that TV hires to maintain community property.

It's also the people in and around and passing thru TV who Seniors Against Crime protects against, and it's also the workers being discussed on the thread titled "Liability is on you" who are not bonded (maybe due to criminal record) and who are not insured.

There are lots of workers and people just passing thru who stop in to use the rec center pool bathrooms and dressing rooms who have not been background checked as TV employees or our own service people have been checked out. There was also a home invasion in Duval a couple of months ago, discussed at length on two prior threads here.

I think it could be called "mean spirited" to ridicule those of us who have seen danger or misuse of facilities, and warn others against it.

Walter123 11-08-2014 08:00 PM

To pee or not to pee, that is the question.

dillywho 11-08-2014 08:01 PM

Had the o.p. been in the restroom prior to these men? Did she know anyone who had? If not, then it could be that someone else had left if "filthy". Why was the rec department not called immediately with the name of the landscaping company to make a formal complaint? TOTV is great for airing frustrations but normally does not result in meaningful change.

Just my thoughts on it.

joldnol 11-08-2014 08:46 PM

for those of you who are ignorant on how construction goes, you have had dozens of men use your plumbing while your house was being built. All of those white pvc pipes you see coming out of a slab make convenient urinals and not all of the workers have deadly aim. The nastiest job to have is be the poor smoe who has to break the cap on the sewer line before it's hooked up to the sewage system.

CFrance 11-08-2014 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Walter123 (Post 965665)
To pee or not to pee, that is the question.

Apparently, not in our backyard!

Campbell soup 11-08-2014 09:04 PM

I am sure they both had to go very bad as they don't just come in the pool area very often. We don't say anything when these same people call the police or have actually assisted in catching criminals....who do live in The Villages. There are rules and then there is common sense and politeness. Lets not worry so much relax and enjoy the beautiful pools these landscapers are human beings working hard to make an honest living....they are not out slaves they are our equals...


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