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billethkid 05-13-2016 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1225739)
It could have something to do with the developer's lease terms and conditions. Just sayin'. And please don't read this as criticizing the developer.

TV leases are no different than leases in any other commercial enterprise or mall.

The issue is more likely, like it or not, most successful chain stores have profiles, demographics, population center requirements, access, egress, competition presence, etc.

It is obvious TV does not meet the criteria for select stores/shops.

Many of us have been here since the time when many national stores and restaurants did not exist. For instance there was nothing on Rolling Acres and 441....including no Home depot or the shopping centers both sides of Rolling Acres.
There was nothing past Publix to the railroad tracks on 466.....either side of the road.

One can better appreciate the number of national brands that have chosen to come to TV once a critical mass here met their criteria.

There will be more to come. And there will be no pleasing all as we all come from differing backgrounds and locations.

What some of us thought was great 12 years ago are happy as clams since. The same will repeat for recent newbies....takes a little time.

Bogie Shooter 05-13-2016 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 1225771)
TV leases are no different than leases in any other commercial enterprise or mall.

The issue is more likely, like it or not, most successful chain stores have profiles, demographics, population center requirements, access, egress, competition presence, etc.

It is obvious TV does not meet the criteria for select stores/shops.

Many of us have been here since the time when many national stores and restaurants did not exist. For instance there was nothing on Rolling Acres and 441....including no Home depot or the shopping centers both sides of Rolling Acres.
There was nothing past Publix to the railroad tracks on 466.....either side of the road.

One can better appreciate the number of national brands that have chosen to come to TV once a critical mass here met their criteria.

There will be more to come. And there will be no pleasing all as we all come from differing backgrounds and locations.

What some of us thought was great 12 years ago are happy as clams since. The same will repeat for recent newbies....takes a little time.

You are so right.

2BNTV 05-13-2016 09:11 AM

Latest thing I read awhile back, is that most Americans will buy products made in China over "Made in America" brand type products because they are cheaper and want to save money. I think most people would like to pay less for an item, if it is somewhat equal in quality.

Maybe this thought is for another thread.

I believe I read the developers plans to lease are based on the viability of businesses succeeding in TV. I would tend to think that large retailers can readily afford to do business in TV, rather than some small shop owners. IMHO

I think Traders Joe's would be welcomed in TV, as "Home Goods" was. A store that many people was anxious for them to come to TV. I was informed by a TJ's cashier that many people from TV ask, "when are going to put a store in TV"?

Every time I'm in Home Goods, I tease the sales staff by asking them if it's a slow day. They usually laugh and or roll their eyes.

Boomer 05-13-2016 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1225733)
That's usually why they are rich.
Read "The Millionaire Next Door".

Outlaw, funny you should mention that book. This thread made me think of it, too. In fact, I just looked it up on Amazon. Oh my! Hard to believe it has been 20 years since its publication.

The author, Thomas Stanley, later wrote The Millionaire Mind and Stop Acting Rich: ... And Start Living Lke A Real Millionaire.

Stanley did research on the psychology of money and the behavior of those who have a couple of bucks. Interesting stuff.

Boomer

bagboy 05-13-2016 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 1225712)
Certainly hope this new mini Walmart is not built on the vacant land between McDonalds and Walgreens opposite Publix. There is definitely enough land there to build a store, but the parking area would be way too small. There are already many complaints about the parking situation at this shopping area.

I agree that parcel seems too small. There is a larger empty tract on the south side of 466A behind the offices there. That parcel could be accessed using the traffic light between the tire store and Shell station. Just have to wait and see.
By the way, I think the parcel between Walgreens and McDonalds is where the new Bob Evans restaurant is going. Not positive about that though.

charmed59 05-13-2016 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by zonerboy (Post 1225712)
Certainly hope this new mini Walmart is not built on the vacant land between McDonalds and Walgreens opposite Publix. There is definitely enough land there to build a store, but the parking area would be way too small. There are already many complaints about the parking situation at this shopping area.

Inadequate parking? I'm shocked Trader Joes didn't pick that location. I think that is part of the Trader Joes brand, a parking lot with not enough parking.

jalopy54 05-13-2016 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by patfla06 (Post 1224977)
NOT happy about Walmart!

why not happy?

perrjojo 05-13-2016 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1225045)
You don't have to buy clothing and accessories from Walmart. Check their prices on common things like coffee pots and food and annual flowers and office supplies.

Their corporate buyers have enormous buying power to get low prices for the consumer.

Too many people are Walmart snobs, quite possibly because they see a lot of people who don't have a lot of money shopping there. That in itself is a good thing. They do have low prices.

Gracie, always frugal.

That said, I love shopping for food most of the time at Publix...and Winn-Dixie for cookies. Wonderful cookies. The staff of life.

But Walmart has good glazed donuts, and cheap too.

Gracie, I guess I am a Walmart snob. I am a Walmart snob because I dislike the fact that too many Walmart employees have children on government health care programs, recieve food stamps etc. I do not think the tax payer should subsidize Walmart salaries because of their part time pay practices. They use part time hours to avoid benefits for their employees. When we lived in Georgia it was reported that there were 14 times more children of Walmart employees on Medicaid programs than any other employer. Yes, they have cheap prices but we subsidize those cheap prices with our tax dollars whether we shop there or not.

Villager Joyce 05-13-2016 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1225802)
Gracie, I guess I am a Walmart snob. I am a Walmart snob because I dislike the fact that too many Walmart employees have children on government health care programs, recieve food stamps etc. I do not think the tax payer should subsidize Walmart salaries because of their part time pay practices. They use part time hours to avoid benefits for their employees. When we lived in Georgia it was reported that there were 14 times more children of Walmart employees on Medicaid programs than any other employer. Yes, they have cheap prices but we subsidize those cheap prices with our tax dollars whether we shop there or not.

What would happen if all Walmart employees were unemployed?

perrjojo 05-13-2016 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1225814)
What would happen if all Walmart employees were unemployed?

What would happen if the Walton family paid a living wage and only had 147 Billion dollars rather than 149 Billion dollars?

graciegirl 05-13-2016 10:45 AM

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njbchbum 05-13-2016 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1225802)
Gracie, I guess I am a Walmart snob. I am a Walmart snob because I dislike the fact that too many Walmart employees have children on government health care programs, recieve food stamps etc. I do not think the tax payer should subsidize Walmart salaries because of their part time pay practices. They use part time hours to avoid benefits for their employees. When we lived in Georgia it was reported that there were 14 times more children of Walmart employees on Medicaid programs than any other employer. Yes, they have cheap prices but we subsidize those cheap prices with our tax dollars whether we shop there or not.

How long since you lived in Georgia or read about Walmart policies? Perhaps you should revisit Walmart policies that changed way back in Feb. 2015! And have you ever considered that the employee[s] might only want to work part-time hour so that they DON'T lose those govt entitlements?
Walmart raises pay well above minimum wage - Feb. 19, 2015

Why should Walmart or any employer be obligated to pay a 'living wage' to any employee rather than pay what the job is worth to be done in the face of competition for the same skill set?

How would you establish a 'living wage' when the cost of living varies so much in every area of the country?

Villager Joyce 05-13-2016 10:57 AM

Does Publix have full time employees? The Jenkins kids are at the very least big time millionaires.
What about McDonald's?
I could go on and on. If you want to get the point, you will. If you don't, you won't.

perrjojo 05-13-2016 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1225837)
How long since you lived in Georgia or read about Walmart policies? Perhaps you should revisit Walmart policies that changed way back in Feb. 2015! And have you ever considered that the employee[s] might only want to work part-time hour so that they DON'T lose those govt entitlements?
Walmart raises pay well above minimum wage - Feb. 19, 2015

Why should Walmart or any employer be obligated to pay a 'living wage' to any employee rather than pay what the job is worth to be done in the face of competition for the same skill set?

How would you establish a 'living wage' when the cost of living varies so much in every area of the country?

I guess I used the wrong word with "living wage" as it seems to be a political hot potato. I don't think it is the salary paid as much as the avoidance of benefits. And yes, some prefer part time but most do not. I also do not begrudge the Waltons their wealth. I prefer not to shop there and I choose not to approve of their employment practices, even those changed WAY back in 2015.

RickeyD 05-13-2016 11:03 AM

New Retail Announced by Developer
 
Walmart or any good corporate citizen should act accordingly and pay all employees a living wage. We are not living in the nineteenth century anymore when farm boys and girls fled to the cities and worked long hours seven days a week under deplorable conditions.
Unions organized to end these conditions for their members and all citizens.
Today, with all the good manufacturing jobs in third world countries because of corporate greed what are the farm boys and girls supposed to live on ?


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