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perrjojo 05-13-2016 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Villager Joyce (Post 1225841)
Does Publix have full time employees? The Jenkins kids are at the very least big time millionaires.
What about McDonald's?
I could go on and on. If you want to get the point, you will. If you don't, you won't.

Yes, I get the point and so do you...we just see it differently :laugh:

njbchbum 05-13-2016 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1225847)
Walmart or any good corporate citizen should act accordingly and pay all employees a living wage. We are not living in the nineteenth century anymore when farm boys and girls fled to the cities and worked long hours seven days a week under deplorable conditions.
Unions organized to end these conditions for their members and all citizens.
Today, with all the good manufacturing jobs in third world countries because of corporate greed what are the farm boys and girls supposed to live on ?

I ask you the same question:
Why should Walmart or any employer be obligated to pay a 'living wage' to any employee rather than pay what the job is worth to be done in the face of competition for the same skill set?

And further - How do you determine what is a 'living wage' in each of the many varied areas of this Country? perrjojo ducked the question - do you have a naswer? Just askin'.

RickeyD 05-13-2016 12:11 PM

New Retail Announced by Developer
 
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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1225878)
I ask you the same question:

Why should Walmart or any employer be obligated to pay a 'living wage' to any employee rather than pay what the job is worth to be done in the face of competition for the same skill set?



And further - How do you determine what is a 'living wage' in each of the many varied areas of this Country? perrjojo ducked the question - do you have a naswer? Just askin'.



They are obligated because they choose to do business in our country and our country belongs to it's citizens, not corporations. Living wage calculators are available online broken down to each county in each state. Besides, NY & California are going to $15 an hour, the rest will fill in. Those that don't will dry up.

perrjojo 05-13-2016 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by njbchbum (Post 1225878)
I ask you the same question:
Why should Walmart or any employer be obligated to pay a 'living wage' to any employee rather than pay what the job is worth to be done in the face of competition for the same skill set?

And further - How do you determine what is a 'living wage' in each of the many varied areas of this Country? perrjojo ducked the question - do you have a naswer? Just askin'.

I didn't really "duck" the question, I just know I have my opinion and you have yours. For you or I to explain our reasoning would take more time and space than a his forums allows and besides, neither of us will likely change our minds. Just because our opinions are different does not make one right or the other wrong. I stated my reasons for not shopping Walmart. You have your reason to shop Walmart. It is nice that we each have a choice.

njbchbum 05-13-2016 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RickeyD (Post 1225883)
They are obligated because they choose to do business in our country and our country belongs to it's citizens, not corporations. Living wage calculators are available online broken down to each county in each state. Besides, NY & California are going to $15 an hour, the rest will fill in. Those that don't will dry up.

If as you post, "..our country belongs to it's citizens, not corporations.", should the government then be paying the 'living wage'; and does it not attempt to do that by establishing a poverty level, minimum wage and welfare benefits?

I don't know where you spent your years in a career so I have to ask...if your employer[s] had been required to pay everyone in its/their employ a 'living wage' - how many employees would it/they have had and how long would they have stayed in business and what would it/they have had to charge for its/their product/service?

I spent 30+ years in fiscal work for private and public employers - each one paying employees within a broad salary range based on prevailing market rates for their appropriate and required skill set. Had either entity had to pay each of us a 'living wage' the private insurance company and hospital would have gone out of business and the public sector jobs would have pushed taxpayers into bankruptcy and onto welfare; and their failure to remit property/income taxes would have caused a government collapse.

NYGUY 05-13-2016 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bagboy (Post 1225783)
....By the way, I think the parcel between Walgreens and McDonalds is where the new Bob Evans restaurant is going. Not positive about that though.

Bob Evans is going on the opposite side of Walgreen's.

shumbapie 05-13-2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1225833)
What would happen if the Walton family paid a living wage and only had 147 Billion dollars rather than 149 Billion dollars?

Someone wants to play Santa Claus with other peoples money. A $15/hour minimum wage perhaps? Let's make it $75/hour and eliminate all poverty while we are at it...

dewilson58 05-13-2016 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shumbapie (Post 1225954)
Someone wants to play Santa Claus with other peoples money. A $15/hour minimum wage perhaps? Let's make it $75/hour and eliminate all poverty while we are at it...

I'm entitled to that!!!!


(Are we off topic yet??)

:popcorn:

Chi-Town 05-13-2016 02:46 PM

Anyhow, the Walmart Neighborhood Market I went to had nice wide aisles with good sight lines and neat shelves. Quick and courteous checkout was also a plus. Would like to see one on 466 also.

RickeyD 05-13-2016 02:53 PM

I'm looking forward to a Wally World food store [emoji847]

photo1902 05-13-2016 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1225591)
About a year ago I was sharing the benefits of having a Wegmans as an alternative to food shop in on TOTV and ripped apart by a women who just posted on this thread. She passed judgement on me...me...the man who has bang for the buck in his DNA. I let it go but never forgot. Having a nice choice of grocery stores is wonderful. Walmart is going to be a diamond for the million dollar buyers of homes. We'll be there saving money alongside of them while they are cutting corners to pay that big nut every month for their million dollar home. More power to ya! I can say safely that I know of a second poster now that we won't be bumping into at Walmart. Be kind to the little people when you make it to the top.:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

Well said!

perrjojo 05-13-2016 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 1225956)
I'm entitled to that!!!!


(Are we off topic yet??)

:popcorn:

Are we off topic yet? Yes, my point was only the reason that I am a Walmart snob". Others have chosen to make it a social/political discussion. Sorry my opinion started all of this nonsense.

dewilson58 05-13-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1225989)
Are we off topic yet? Yes, my point was only the reason that I am a Walmart snob". Others have chosen to make it a social/political discussion. Sorry my opinion started all of this nonsense.

Refer to "The Weekend" thread. :laugh:

RickeyD 05-13-2016 03:46 PM

New Retail Announced by Developer
 
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Originally Posted by perrjojo (Post 1225989)
Are we off topic yet? Yes, my point was only the reason that I am a Walmart snob". Others have chosen to make it a social/political discussion. Sorry my opinion started all of this nonsense.



Shame on you for igniting raw emotions with opinionated Villagers [emoji6]

Nucky 05-13-2016 04:33 PM

:faint:I don't think it is off topic. A good spirited give and take of opinion is what this is all about. Isn't it ok to wander off a little bit? What is the big deal?:faint:


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