Gun carry
 

I understand this option doesn’t Start until July 1. However, you make a good point.

Now THAT is the funniest thing I've read all day. Thanx! LOL

As the “inmates” take charge of the “asylum” unusual and sometimes very unnecessary “things” happen. It happens in most retirement communities.

Is "big people pants" code for "adult diapers"?

Thanks, "ship mate".

ha ha been there , done that .I can’t even talk before coffee

What if it's a woman who filed the complaint?

Except that's not true...

I'd offer to have my dog poop on their lawn if it would help...:icon_wink:

So many of the so-called Covenants need to be repealed and totally removed. An organization needs to be created within The Villages to concentrate solely on this worthy task. Citizens are being harassed by senseless rules passed by previous controlling idiots.

Except it's not true...

Somebody please post the exact wording of the section that was cited as the complaint

If you buy into the rules, you don't get to pick and choose which ones you want to follow and which ones you want to ignore.

Did you ever raise children? Did you allow them to choose which of your rules they had to abide by and which they could ignore?

Good post.

In general, "plantings" are prohibited in Rights of Ways and/or easements, because whoever is the beneficiary of the Easement or owner of the ROW, doesn't want to be responsible, particularly if they have to dig it up to do repairs or whatever may occur. (There are obviously are other reasons, but what I mentioned is typical.)

there are too many existing violations that they know about. they would rather hide behind "I didn't know" rather than have to disclose to potential buyers. Village agents aren't fiduciary - of course their best interest is high commission.

Public information
 

We had a troll post violations in our neighborhood through email.
We were able to ascertain who the individual was. Once this information is put into writing it is now available as public information. They may not have signed the email, but you would be able to get their email address.
In our neighborhood, they were able to find the physical address and people started sending them cards.

I used to live in a deed restricted sub. But the homeowners could govern themselves. If a rule doesn't make sense an amendment could be enacted. This creepy place is much different - the homeowners really have no say even if it is a majority. The poor people in D7 with the mis-colored roofs. Sure it was their doing, but if all the homeowners are OK with it, why can't the CDD "supervisors" try to get the developer to make an amendment. It's a shame that they work for the developer and not for the homeowners. The reason they don't want to help the Villa roof people is they don't want to open themselves to work (they call it Pandora's box)

it would be cool if the rules made sense. they cannot be changed. the CDDs are ruled like N. Korea.
The owners don't have representation at least in Hadley they don't

Some of them can't even legally be enforced. Such as the "no antenna" rule and the "no clothesline" rule.

The covenants/deed restrictions/community standards need to be updated at /least/ to comply with state and federal law. While they're at it they could probably amend some existing things like flowers in the easement/right-of-way. Basically - if all you'd need is a hand-propelled lawnmower to mow it down, a bunch of flowers should be permissible. If it gets too long you tell the homeowner to either prune it or mow it.

Neighborhood Has very clear videos of their red cart, their faces, while they took pics of the houses, filing 60 complaints. 45 were dismissed for landscaping violations, because developers put in the bushes. I have video of the back of one walking on the side of my house to get pic of the Hugh white cross. She filed I won, no white cross will live anywhere in my home or yard.

One can access videos on neighborhood website, with your sign in code.

I've lived in various types of communities across most of the U.S. over the years, and this I know: Whether in a HOA-type of community, or just your "average" neighborhood, every single time there was an issue between neighbors, it either permanently damaged/ended their relationship, or led to physical violence. Every. Single. Time.

Absolutely nothing good comes from knowing who reported you. Those who are so eager to discover that information, and say "I want to face my accuser" (already sounds aggressive - this is not the Spanish Inquisition) , why? What would you do with the information? Quietly stew about it until you explode one day? Think of ways to get even? March right over and confront him/her - do you think that will end well (hint: it won't)? Many people believe some version of this fantasy: "Bob and I have been close friends for years and we're both reasonable adults, so we'll just clear the air, then share a few beers and a few laughs over this silly situation" - not going to happen. Sometimes, the feud escalates to the point where one party is forced to move out of the area. And it's laughable to call an anonymous complainant a coward.

There definitely needs to be some way to prevent (or at least greatly reduce) those who abuse the system from doing so. Some suggestions I've seen so far include the so-called "troll" having to provide proof of their identity to the powers that be for every complaint (but that information would not be made public, and the same person could not exceed a set number of complaints), or a fee ($20?) would have to be paid for each filing, or you could only file a complaint if you can see the alleged offense from your property, or some combination of these.

Those who say that complaints are down in the district that has done away with the anonymous component of the system, of course they're down - residents are now scared to report violations, for some of the reasons I've listed above. That doesn't mean that there are less violations than before, just that they're now not being reported nearly as often, and people have to just live amongst all of the violations, or risk alienating their neighbors forever. An absolutely terrible decision by that district's leaders, which will hopefully be reversed soon. If other districts follow suit, that will be the end of "Florida's Friendliest Hometown".

I’m glad the Rules get enforced… The owners are well aware of the Rules, and ignorance is not an excuse…. If I have an issue with a neighbor violating the rules, I approach them , Man to Man or Man to Women… sometimes a friendship may develop… Love is in the Air

So, basically, they harassed the harasser. That reminds me of the old philosophy, "2 wrongs do NOT make a right"!

Since you must be one of the owners who is well aware of the Rules, can you please point to the rule the states there is a 13' easement in front of the house and that no flowers can be planted in that easement?

I cannot find that in my CDD10 deed restrictions but it could be a restriction in another area. Please show me where it can be found.

If you see women driving around your neighborhood taking pictures and writing stuff down follow them in your cart to their home. Take pictures of them an their home and post it!

Broken windows theory
 

If you let the small violations pass then the big ones will follow. Judy follow the rules and quit whining.

I concur....

There you go with facts again.

I liked it better when the developer controlled everything , the village’s neighborhood watch guys would come by and give you a ticket , I remember once my landscaper had put a bird bath in that he got somewhere without me knowing , they were by that day and said you can’t have that because of standing water , they would be on you right away for weeds , statues , anything that was wrong , for me those were the good old days ,remember one persons tasteful ornament can become somebody else’s theme park

I seriously feel it is way past time to review the purposes of the deed restrictions/covenants. I should think they were instituted to create appeal to potential residents and to protect and maintain property values.

Until, perhaps ten years ago, the Community Watch authority had the responsibility to police and enforce any infractions. They, at that time, were "pro-active"....they are now only "reactive". Flowers planted within a certain restricted area would in all probably not be considered sufficient violation in the tenets to require any action. Can you imagine flowers being in conflict with creating appeal and protecting and maintaining property values. Come on...get real. And having deed restrictions policed by trolls. What idiot would think that this is in the best interest of anything? :cus::cus::cus:

Actually - I did see a woman in a golf cart - wearing a Villages "uniform" shirt. It looked like it had been converted into a utility golf cart - maybe a rec center cart? She was ahead of me, going very slowly. She didn't stop at anyone's houses but she would slow down and make some kind of mark with a fat black magic marker on a surface. I couldn't see what it was she was writing on, I only saw the top end of the marker moving in her hand.

This was in the "historic" section. I caught up to her at the Boone Gate, and she was ahead of me on Paradise and up Lauren, where she turned onto West Schwartz.

She would slow down significantly every couple of houses, look at the house, and make a mark before speeding up again.

Maybe not, but 3 rights (turns) make a left!
Root out the weed so the grass can grow.

It would be nice to know who the coward is who doesn’t have the intestinal fortitude to talk face to face. It would also significantly reduce frivolous complaints so efforts could be focused on the violations that truly disrupt the neighborhood instead of things like flowers and little white crosses.

Spanish Inquisition? Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Actually, it is kind of like it since you are, in essence, damned if you have or have not "sinned". And no one knows who the real witch is pulling the strings for their own twisted evil.
Snipers can and do cause a lot of harm and concern even among the innocent. Take the weapon of anonymity away, and the concern in the community goes down. Wouldn't you want to know who the child molester, rapist, thief or murderer is that lives in your community?

Selective "enforcement" appears to be just a micro example of the collective wishes of the nation's entire population. When you think about it for more than a second or two. We, as a people, have condoned selective enforcement of laws period; from illegal immigration to common theft, I believe the way many seniors (including myself !) understood "fair and equal enforcement of the law", has evolved due to the many cultural changes (which don't need to be listed on this type of forum of course) we've experienced. Some may think, what has THAT to do with The Villages ignoring enforcement of some while ignoring other violations. But actually, the collective culture of a nation does effect every aspect of life. Combine that with the mental state of various seniors in ANY community, you have a further explanation. People range from a normal concern for their own, and their neighbor's, property values and pride in their surroundings, to those whose cognitive processing has changed over the years, and who now find a purpose, personal satisfaction, in "doing the right thing and protecting their community". This includes what we call "trolls", those who have taken on a personal "mission" and get meaning and satisfaction from it. I've posted previously that we have relatives in similar communities in Florida and in other states... all are experiencing the same phenomenon... selective enforcement with petty violations (flowers, "wrong" color or type of stone/gravel in landscaping, etc.), while age, number of residents residing in a home, lawns completely overgrown in weeds, multiple overflow vehicles on residential streets night after night (perfectly legal but makes life for regular residents very difficult), etc. all "over looked". A "few" communities like ours, very few, but some have actually organized to the extent that they went to the long, involved legal process of changing how enforcement is accomplished, and also setting stricter rules concerning renting one's property. A "string" of rental properties as a business venture, is different from a resident who owns a single property and decides to rent it for the 6 months they might leave the area, but there is nothing to distinguish among those two examples. Nothing solves everything, but there are things that could be changed that would really help. As to changing the personalities of aging, angry, bitter, possibly ill, residents, whose focus is on "nit picking (and "nit picking" has greatly different meanings to different people) on such things as how many inches a flower garden is from something ... well, enough said about priorities...LOL !

While I agree that it is not at all wise to assume any real estate agent puts their personal goals and needs above those of any client, disclosure of "things" an agent knows about a property is simply not going to happen. Just like "we the people" found out we had to have laws require the disclosure of some things (past sink holes, asbestos, and so on), there should be NO controversy over requiring disclosure of deed restriction violations in communities that have them. I can think of few things as "unfair" as innocently purchasing a property, only to be faced with a major expense for something that has existed for 15, 20 years and through 3 or 4 owners. Our present culture is obsessed with equality and fairness, this issue needs some attention again, meaning nation wide.

I agree in principle, but I also feel there is something inherently wrong with citing a home for flowers while ignoring the revolving door flop house air BnB right next door.

I am actually incensed by the use of Deed Restrictions for minor offenses.

I live in a very quiet small village tucked around Glenview GC. Some years ago we had a man and woman move into one of the homes and shortly after they moved in a young woman with a very young child moved in. Then we started to notice different cars arriving at all hours of the day and evening. Then an awful filthy broken recliner appeared on their driveway, followed by a filthy mattress. These items stayed for a couple of weeks. Then broken down cars were parked in their lot on both the grass and driveway. One day, quite recently, they must have done a moonlight flit, the house was then TENTED for several days, torn apart and put back on the market at a very high asking price.
When have you ever seen a home in TV TENTED?

Their immediate neighbors and the surrounding neighborhood had to put up with this and The Villages did nothing. So much for Deed Restrictions.

Interesting how one district has little if any restrictions and others have a long list of restrictions. Personally, at my age I enjoy homes that are personalized and not cookie cutter, military style homes. I may not care for some of my neighbor's preferences, but I really don't think it is any of my business as to what makes them happy, as long as it does not offend me. I have not seen any trucks or old cars on blocks or toilet flower planters, but even those might look OK if done right. Point is that I believe in live and let live at this juncture of my life. I've seen everything here in the Villages, including landscape edging consisting of beer bottles and a cast iron pig. Just stay off of my lawn, especially with your dog that wishes to use my lawn as a toilet instead of yours. Pick up your trash that might blow on my property and we will all be fine.
If you have a complaint about my landscaping, please feel free to complain to my face. I am not going to get violent with anyone that does not like my style. If I feel that your complaint is valid I'm willing to make modifications. Personally, I don't give a rat's @&& if others do not like my style. And I do not care what my neighbors do with their home as long as what they do does not purposely bother me. As far as I am concerned, deed restrictions are there as a tool to keep folks from going to the extreme. And yes, if I don't like it here, I will move. Or, if you don't like my home then you can move.