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Big O 06-10-2014 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TNLAKEPANDA (Post 890852)
That is exactly what I thought the first time I encountered those two lane round-a-bouts! They really should be single lane! No one in the Villages needs to be in that big of a rush.

The second lane is specifically for contractors to enter and exit the roundabout at any speed.

kittygilchrist 06-10-2014 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ajbrown (Post 890866)
Your approach seems logical and is one of their best practices, so hard to argue with that. My question is who are you concerned about merging with after exiting round about?

From my experience I have never had an issue merging to the resident gate lane. As I posted earlier, there should be NO CAR in that right lane to merge with if I have safely exited the roundabout to a Village with gates.

No argument here, just trying to understand where you see the issue?

Not easy to describe.

I enter the circle at 6 oclock, circle and exit at 9 oclock. Only after I've exited onto the short runway of vis/res gates, can I legally merge into the right lane. Traffic coming from 12 oclock can enter and exit the roundabout in a second or so completing a right turn into the resident lane.

They are entering the lane to the resident gate at the same time I am trying to merge into it, moving from a position behind and right of me and into the classic blind spot. I am now physically ahead of them in the left lane trying to merge, and even though they entered the circle after me, once they've exited and are in the right lane, they claim the right of way, where a mere an instant before had looked as if a safe merge could be executed.

Bogie Shooter 06-10-2014 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Big O (Post 890871)
The second lane is specifically for contractors to enter and exit the roundabout at any speed.

Where did this directive come from??

Mickedamouse24 06-10-2014 03:45 PM

:ohdear::shocked:What difference does it make....?! Visitor or Resident gate! Just drive with caution and defensively and you will be fine..! Don''t make a big deal out of something that is fairly simple if you're paying attention!!

Bogie Shooter 06-10-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickedamouse24 (Post 890898)
:ohdear::shocked:What difference does it make....?! Visitor or Resident gate! Just drive with caution and defensively and you will be fine..! Don''t make a big deal out of something that is fairly simple if you're paying attention!!

This just makes so much sense. Thanks.

Big O 06-10-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 890891)
Where did this directive come from??

It was a joke. That is the way they act.

rdhdleo 06-10-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickedamouse24 (Post 890898)
:ohdear::shocked:What difference does it make....?! Visitor or Resident gate! Just drive with caution and defensively and you will be fine..! Don''t make a big deal out of something that is fairly simple if you're paying attention!!

Excellent! I totally agree! I always use turn signals also so others that may not be paying attention know what my intentions are! Alas turn signal use around here is almost none existent!, but that's another subject ;)

ajbrown 06-10-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kittygilchrist (Post 890889)
Not easy to describe.

I enter the circle at 6 oclock, circle and exit at 9 oclock. Only after I've exited onto the short runway of vis/res gates, can I legally merge into the right lane. Traffic coming from 12 oclock can enter and exit the roundabout in a second or so completing a right turn into the resident lane.

They are entering the lane to the resident gate at the same time I am trying to merge into it, moving from a position behind and right of me and into the classic blind spot. I am now physically ahead of them in the left lane trying to merge, and even though they entered the circle after me, once they've exited and are in the right lane, they claim the right of way, where a mere an instant before had looked as if a safe merge could be executed.

Your description makes perfect sense. You are describing someone entering the roundabout at 12:00 in a dangerous fashion maybe? They must give you room to pass the enter point knowing you may turn right.

I have not experienced that often (if at all). I look at it this way, if I have room to safely exit the round about from the left lane, no one will get to my blind spot. They cannot be that close or I could not safely exit for fear of right hooking them.

I merge to the right lane as soon as I am out of the roundabout. Truth be told I make my intentions pretty clear on my way OUT of the roundabout which is bending the "best practice", but IMO safer :throwtomatoes:.

buzzy 06-10-2014 04:20 PM

I guess that some residents are too proud to be seen in a visitor lane.

LndLocked 06-10-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by slipcovers (Post 890870)
I totally agree, they should be 1 lane. I have a large roundabout near me and I have watched how it works smoothly. Every car enters 1 lane, yielding, and exits smoothly on right. In TV there are small circles with 2 lanes. For instance, I usually go north on BV from 466a, go 3/4 around to take a right into St Charles. If I am supposed to be in the left lane, I have to cross over quickly to the right lane to enter St Charles. If I am going straight on BV, I am supposed to be in the right lane. It would be safer to stay in the right lane and go 3/4 around, right into St. Charles.

Cars today have blind spots, head rests, and slop up in the back, which makes it differcult to see oncoming traffic.

This is without question the single most INCORRECT thing that can be done in a traffic circle! You are in effect, making a left hand turn - from the far outside lane - across all the other lanes of traffic.

slipcovers 06-10-2014 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LndLocked (Post 890947)
This is without question the single most INCORRECT thing that can be done in a traffic circle! You are in effect, making a left hand turn - from the far outside lane - across all the other lanes of traffic.

The roundabouts should be 1 lane. All turns are right hand turns on a roundabout. HELLO

gomoho 06-10-2014 05:18 PM

I never enter a round-a-bout when there is a car coming in either lane because you never know where the person on the inside lane intends to exit. Yield to those coming before you and there is no problem.

I just realized you were talking about exiting, not entering. But the same holds true - yield to those already in the circle because I believe it is legal to cross the dotted line to get into the lane you wish to exit from.

Mikeod 06-10-2014 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slipcovers (Post 890971)
The roundabouts should be 1 lane. All turns are right hand turns on a roundabout. HELLO

But they are not one lane and there are signs posted before that one that shows which is the proper lane to use for the road you wish to exit onto. To purposely use the wrong lane because you think it is more convenient or logical is the primary reason for vehicle conflict in the roundabouts.

The roundabouts are never going to be one lane. The guide details the proper lane usage. Those that think they know better than to follow the signs and guide are creating the problems.

And the comment about making a left turn from the right lane is accurate. It is best to consider a roundabout to be a regular intersection. To make a right turn, you would use the right lane entering it. To go straight, either lane. To make a left turn, use the left lane.

mikestag 06-10-2014 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Villageshooter (Post 890681)
I just split the lanes I try to stay right in the middle of both lanes that way I can go either way it keeps everybody behind me behind me kind of like being the pace car I know your frustration I sometimes worry does the light in the refrigerator really go out when you close the door!?

The people who moved from South New Jersey can tell you how to drive in a circle and how to exit !!!! When you are going to a gate-stay on the right lane, Oh Ya ! If you have TURN SIGNLES in your Car, Motorcycle or Golf cart PLEASE USE--USE THEM.

CFrance 06-10-2014 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mikestag (Post 891009)
The people who moved from South New Jersey can tell you how to drive in a circle and how to exit !!!! When you are going to a gate-stay on the right lane, Oh Ya ! If you have TURN SIGNLES in your Car, Motorcycle or Golf cart PLEASE USE--USE THEM.

That's absolutely NOT what to do when you're going 3/4 the way around the circle. And if you hit someone exiting the inside lane, you are at fault.


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